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Old Jan 30th 2004, 3:37 am
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Newimmigrant2004
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Hello,

I am an international student, MA in economics, I arrived in Canada at
the and of July, 2003 and I will graduate at the end of this April. My
visa will expire at the end of Sept this year. In the meanwhile I
want to start the immigration process. I will have 70-74 points.
I have to apply to Buffalo and I was told that the whole process might
take at least 18 months. I want to start this as soon as possible, but
this would mean that I have to update my application with proof of
graduation and the job offer that I am confident I will also have --
this will also increase my chances for approval. (I know that for the
first year after graduation we don't need HRDC approval).

However, because one year will not be enough for the immigration
process to end up, I considered that a lawyer's service might be
helpful.Do you think that this could make any difference for the
lenght of the process? I know that after the first year I might
encounter some difficulties in receiving a new work permit -- this
might be easier solved by a lawyer as well?

The lawyer asked for CAD 2,000 for the beginning, another 1,000 by the
time of the interview and another 1,000 if I have the approval. He
said that he would prefer cash in order to avoid taxes. He mentioned
also that in this way I won't pay taxes either. I understand his
concern, but what should I do in order to make sure that this will not
be just a 'mutual understanding' but a real agreement?
I checked this lawyer with the Law Society and he is in good standing.

What does everybody here recommend I should do? What's the best
course of action to take to minimize the time to PR status?'


Thanks for advice!
 
Old Jan 30th 2004, 3:47 am
  #2  
Andrew Miller
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Lawyers or consultants (or anyone else for that matter) cannot speed-up the
process. Stay away from anyone who offers you service without written
retainer agreement. More - if you haven't been lawfully admitted to Canada
for at least 12 months and if you are not an American then you cannot even
apply through Buffalo. If your lawyer "forgot" to tell you about that "small
detail" and/or if he told you that he can speed-up anything then he is lying
to you and trying to take you for a ride, especially if he doesn't want a
contract and wants cash "to avoid taxes". Absolutely he is not a someone to
trust.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"newimmigrant2004" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello,
    > I am an international student, MA in economics, I arrived in Canada at
    > the and of July, 2003 and I will graduate at the end of this April. My
    > visa will expire at the end of Sept this year. In the meanwhile I
    > want to start the immigration process. I will have 70-74 points.
    > I have to apply to Buffalo and I was told that the whole process might
    > take at least 18 months. I want to start this as soon as possible, but
    > this would mean that I have to update my application with proof of
    > graduation and the job offer that I am confident I will also have --
    > this will also increase my chances for approval. (I know that for the
    > first year after graduation we don't need HRDC approval).
    > However, because one year will not be enough for the immigration
    > process to end up, I considered that a lawyer's service might be
    > helpful.Do you think that this could make any difference for the
    > lenght of the process? I know that after the first year I might
    > encounter some difficulties in receiving a new work permit -- this
    > might be easier solved by a lawyer as well?
    > The lawyer asked for CAD 2,000 for the beginning, another 1,000 by the
    > time of the interview and another 1,000 if I have the approval. He
    > said that he would prefer cash in order to avoid taxes. He mentioned
    > also that in this way I won't pay taxes either. I understand his
    > concern, but what should I do in order to make sure that this will not
    > be just a 'mutual understanding' but a real agreement?
    > I checked this lawyer with the Law Society and he is in good standing.
    > What does everybody here recommend I should do? What's the best
    > course of action to take to minimize the time to PR status?'
    > Thanks for advice!
 
Old Jan 30th 2004, 5:29 am
  #3  
Fat
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I feel there could be some way to solve your problem, we have Mr. Andrew
Miller here as pofessional Immigration Consultant. I think better talk to
him that might help.


"newimmigrant2004" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello,
    > I am an international student, MA in economics, I arrived in Canada at
    > the and of July, 2003 and I will graduate at the end of this April. My
    > visa will expire at the end of Sept this year. In the meanwhile I
    > want to start the immigration process. I will have 70-74 points.
    > I have to apply to Buffalo and I was told that the whole process might
    > take at least 18 months. I want to start this as soon as possible, but
    > this would mean that I have to update my application with proof of
    > graduation and the job offer that I am confident I will also have --
    > this will also increase my chances for approval. (I know that for the
    > first year after graduation we don't need HRDC approval).
    > However, because one year will not be enough for the immigration
    > process to end up, I considered that a lawyer's service might be
    > helpful.Do you think that this could make any difference for the
    > lenght of the process? I know that after the first year I might
    > encounter some difficulties in receiving a new work permit -- this
    > might be easier solved by a lawyer as well?
    > The lawyer asked for CAD 2,000 for the beginning, another 1,000 by the
    > time of the interview and another 1,000 if I have the approval. He
    > said that he would prefer cash in order to avoid taxes. He mentioned
    > also that in this way I won't pay taxes either. I understand his
    > concern, but what should I do in order to make sure that this will not
    > be just a 'mutual understanding' but a real agreement?
    > I checked this lawyer with the Law Society and he is in good standing.
    > What does everybody here recommend I should do? What's the best
    > course of action to take to minimize the time to PR status?'
    > Thanks for advice!
 
Old Jan 30th 2004, 7:47 am
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Default Re: International student applying for immigration and work permit

i am curious, when your study permit expires, i presume you will want to stay in Canada. What type of permit will you be needing to stay...will that be a work permit?
I am asking as i am exploring this route also but wanted to know what happens after the study permit expires.

Originally posted by Fat
I feel there could be some way to solve your problem, we have Mr. Andrew
Miller here as pofessional Immigration Consultant. I think better talk to
him that might help.


"newimmigrant2004" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello,
    > I am an international student, MA in economics, I arrived in Canada at
    > the and of July, 2003 and I will graduate at the end of this April. My
    > visa will expire at the end of Sept this year. In the meanwhile I
    > want to start the immigration process. I will have 70-74 points.
    > I have to apply to Buffalo and I was told that the whole process might
    > take at least 18 months. I want to start this as soon as possible, but
    > this would mean that I have to update my application with proof of
    > graduation and the job offer that I am confident I will also have --
    > this will also increase my chances for approval. (I know that for the
    > first year after graduation we don't need HRDC approval).
    > However, because one year will not be enough for the immigration
    > process to end up, I considered that a lawyer's service might be
    > helpful.Do you think that this could make any difference for the
    > lenght of the process? I know that after the first year I might
    > encounter some difficulties in receiving a new work permit -- this
    > might be easier solved by a lawyer as well?
    > The lawyer asked for CAD 2,000 for the beginning, another 1,000 by the
    > time of the interview and another 1,000 if I have the approval. He
    > said that he would prefer cash in order to avoid taxes. He mentioned
    > also that in this way I won't pay taxes either. I understand his
    > concern, but what should I do in order to make sure that this will not
    > be just a 'mutual understanding' but a real agreement?
    > I checked this lawyer with the Law Society and he is in good standing.
    > What does everybody here recommend I should do? What's the best
    > course of action to take to minimize the time to PR status?'
    > Thanks for advice!
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Old Jan 30th 2004, 1:26 pm
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Newimmigrant2004
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Actually I already asked him about these 12 months required and he
said that by the time of the interview there will be 12 months
already. Whenever I asked for details I was told that this is why a
lawyer is supposed to help me, to get rid of all these inconveniences
and he cannot disclose the way he will solve them.

His argument in speeding up the process was that they can avoid any
inconsistency in my file and follow up easily any additional documents
I will required to submit.

What if I will apply by my own and my work permit will expire? – I
might have difficulties in extending the work permit after the first
year. Could I extend my visa just because my immigration application
is already in progress or a new work permit would be the only chance?

TIA


"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<BllSb.42233$oj2.31606@edtnps89>...
    > Lawyers or consultants (or anyone else for that matter) cannot speed-up the
    > process. Stay away from anyone who offers you service without written
    > retainer agreement. More - if you haven't been lawfully admitted to Canada
    > for at least 12 months and if you are not an American then you cannot even
    > apply through Buffalo. If your lawyer "forgot" to tell you about that "small
    > detail" and/or if he told you that he can speed-up anything then he is lying
    > to you and trying to take you for a ride, especially if he doesn't want a
    > contract and wants cash "to avoid taxes". Absolutely he is not a someone to
    > trust.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "newimmigrant2004" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hello,
    > >
    > > I am an international student, MA in economics, I arrived in Canada at
    > > the and of July, 2003 and I will graduate at the end of this April. My
    > > visa will expire at the end of Sept this year. In the meanwhile I
    > > want to start the immigration process. I will have 70-74 points.
    > > I have to apply to Buffalo and I was told that the whole process might
    > > take at least 18 months. I want to start this as soon as possible, but
    > > this would mean that I have to update my application with proof of
    > > graduation and the job offer that I am confident I will also have --
    > > this will also increase my chances for approval. (I know that for the
    > > first year after graduation we don't need HRDC approval).
    > >
    > > However, because one year will not be enough for the immigration
    > > process to end up, I considered that a lawyer's service might be
    > > helpful.Do you think that this could make any difference for the
    > > lenght of the process? I know that after the first year I might
    > > encounter some difficulties in receiving a new work permit -- this
    > > might be easier solved by a lawyer as well?
    > >
    > > The lawyer asked for CAD 2,000 for the beginning, another 1,000 by the
    > > time of the interview and another 1,000 if I have the approval. He
    > > said that he would prefer cash in order to avoid taxes. He mentioned
    > > also that in this way I won't pay taxes either. I understand his
    > > concern, but what should I do in order to make sure that this will not
    > > be just a 'mutual understanding' but a real agreement?
    > > I checked this lawyer with the Law Society and he is in good standing.
    > >
    > > What does everybody here recommend I should do? What's the best
    > > course of action to take to minimize the time to PR status?'
    > >
    > >
    > > Thanks for advice!
 
Old Jan 30th 2004, 4:57 pm
  #6  
Newimmigrant2004
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yes, I will need a work permit. If you have a job offer in the first
90 days after graduation in the field of your studies you can get a
work permit available ONLY for working with that company. For the
first year you don;t need HRDC approval, as it is considered to be
like an internship


ezzkazz <member19716@british_expats.com> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > i am curious, when your study permit expires, i presume you will want
    > to stay in Canada. What type of permit will you be needing to
    > stay...will that be a work permit?
    > I am asking as i am exploring this
    > route also but wanted to know what happens after the study permit
    > expires.
    >
    > Originally posted by Fat
    > > I feel there could
    > be some way to solve your problem, we have Mr. Andrew
    > > Miller here as
    > pofessional Immigration Consultant. I think better talk to
    > > him that
    > might help.
    > >
    > >
    > > "newimmigrant2004" <[email protected]>
    > wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > gle.comnews:[email protected] oogle.com...
    >
    > > > Hello,
    > > > I am an international student, MA in
    > economics, I arrived in Canada at
    > > > the and of July, 2003
    > and I will graduate at the end of this April. My
    > > > visa will
    > expire at the end of Sept this year. In the meanwhile I
    > > >
    > want to start the immigration process. I will have 70-74 points.
    > >
    > > I have to apply to Buffalo and I was told that the whole process
    > might
    > > > take at least 18 months. I want to start this as
    > soon as possible, but
    > > > this would mean that I have to
    > update my application with proof of
    > > > graduation and the job
    > offer that I am confident I will also have --
    > > > this will
    > also increase my chances for approval. (I know that for the
    > >
    > > first year after graduation we don't need HRDC approval).
    > >
    > > However, because one year will not be enough for the
    > immigration
    > > > process to end up, I considered that a
    > lawyer's service might be
    > > > helpful.Do you think that this
    > could make any difference for the
    > > > lenght of the process? I
    > know that after the first year I might
    > > > encounter some
    > difficulties in receiving a new work permit -- this
    > > > might
    > be easier solved by a lawyer as well?
    > > > The lawyer asked for
    > CAD 2,000 for the beginning, another 1,000 by the
    > > > time of
    > the interview and another 1,000 if I have the approval. He
    > > >
    > said that he would prefer cash in order to avoid taxes. He
    > mentioned
    > > > also that in this way I won't pay taxes either.
    > I understand his
    > > > concern, but what should I do in order to
    > make sure that this will not
    > > > be just a 'mutual
    > understanding' but a real agreement?
    > > > I checked this lawyer
    > with the Law Society and he is in good standing.
    > > > What does
    > everybody here recommend I should do? What's the best
    > > >
    > course of action to take to minimize the time to PR status?'
    > >
    > Thanks for advice!
 
Old Jan 30th 2004, 9:02 pm
  #7  
Emil
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Well from what I hear, the fact that he "cannot disclose" how he is going to
proceed means just one thing - it's a scheme. If it is one of those "corner
store" immigration places you see so much here in Toronto, I wouldn't
recommend even talking to them. There are very big risks that you take by
dealing with them, beside money. If they mislead immigration or misrepresent
your case, you may be in trouble and it would be virtually impossible to
undo. What I would suggest is either find a REAL LAWYER, the one that
actually went to law school, and has extensive experience in immigration or
an immigration practitioner like Mr. Humphries or Mr. Miller that have a lot
of references and experience. Don't take a chance or you may mess up alot of
things in the future. In the world that we live in today, one refusal from
Canada, US or EU countries may mean that you would have trouble obtaining
visas in the future.

Just my 2 cents.


"newimmigrant2004" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > yes, I will need a work permit. If you have a job offer in the first
    > 90 days after graduation in the field of your studies you can get a
    > work permit available ONLY for working with that company. For the
    > first year you don;t need HRDC approval, as it is considered to be
    > like an internship
    > ezzkazz <member19716@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > > i am curious, when your study permit expires, i presume you will want
    > > to stay in Canada. What type of permit will you be needing to
    > > stay...will that be a work permit?
    > > I am asking as i am exploring this
    > > route also but wanted to know what happens after the study permit
    > > expires.
    > >
    > > Originally posted by Fat
    > > > I feel there could
    > > be some way to solve your problem, we have Mr. Andrew
    > > > Miller here as
    > > pofessional Immigration Consultant. I think better talk to
    > > > him that
    > > might help.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "newimmigrant2004" <[email protected]>
    > > wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]
    > > gle.comnews:[email protected] oogle.com...
    > >
    > > > > Hello,
    > > > > I am an international student, MA in
    > > economics, I arrived in Canada at
    > > > > the and of July, 2003
    > > and I will graduate at the end of this April. My
    > > > > visa will
    > > expire at the end of Sept this year. In the meanwhile I
    > > > >
    > > want to start the immigration process. I will have 70-74 points.
    > > >
    > > > I have to apply to Buffalo and I was told that the whole process
    > > might
    > > > > take at least 18 months. I want to start this as
    > > soon as possible, but
    > > > > this would mean that I have to
    > > update my application with proof of
    > > > > graduation and the job
    > > offer that I am confident I will also have --
    > > > > this will
    > > also increase my chances for approval. (I know that for the
    > > >
    > > > first year after graduation we don't need HRDC approval).
    > > >
    > > > However, because one year will not be enough for the
    > > immigration
    > > > > process to end up, I considered that a
    > > lawyer's service might be
    > > > > helpful.Do you think that this
    > > could make any difference for the
    > > > > lenght of the process? I
    > > know that after the first year I might
    > > > > encounter some
    > > difficulties in receiving a new work permit -- this
    > > > > might
    > > be easier solved by a lawyer as well?
    > > > > The lawyer asked for
    > > CAD 2,000 for the beginning, another 1,000 by the
    > > > > time of
    > > the interview and another 1,000 if I have the approval. He
    > > > >
    > > said that he would prefer cash in order to avoid taxes. He
    > > mentioned
    > > > > also that in this way I won't pay taxes either.
    > > I understand his
    > > > > concern, but what should I do in order to
    > > make sure that this will not
    > > > > be just a 'mutual
    > > understanding' but a real agreement?
    > > > > I checked this lawyer
    > > with the Law Society and he is in good standing.
    > > > > What does
    > > everybody here recommend I should do? What's the best
    > > > >
    > > course of action to take to minimize the time to PR status?'
    > > >
    > > Thanks for advice!
 
Old Jan 31st 2004, 4:16 pm
  #8  
James Metcalfe
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You have more than 12 months status in Canada and you can apply in Buffalo.
Not even God could make Buffalo move faster
The lawyer may save you time by avoiding common errors but expect 18 months.
You may find a job for one year but will have to figure out how to stay in
Canada for a second year. You could always go back to school. The fee is not
unreasonable in Toronto Get a contract and try bargainging the price
down. It is a free and competitive market in Toronto.

Jim metcalfe




"newimmigrant2004" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hello,
    > I am an international student, MA in economics, I arrived in Canada at
    > the and of July, 2003 and I will graduate at the end of this April. My
    > visa will expire at the end of Sept this year. In the meanwhile I
    > want to start the immigration process. I will have 70-74 points.
    > I have to apply to Buffalo and I was told that the whole process might
    > take at least 18 months. I want to start this as soon as possible, but
    > this would mean that I have to update my application with proof of
    > graduation and the job offer that I am confident I will also have --
    > this will also increase my chances for approval. (I know that for the
    > first year after graduation we don't need HRDC approval).
    > However, because one year will not be enough for the immigration
    > process to end up, I considered that a lawyer's service might be
    > helpful.Do you think that this could make any difference for the
    > lenght of the process? I know that after the first year I might
    > encounter some difficulties in receiving a new work permit -- this
    > might be easier solved by a lawyer as well?
    > The lawyer asked for CAD 2,000 for the beginning, another 1,000 by the
    > time of the interview and another 1,000 if I have the approval. He
    > said that he would prefer cash in order to avoid taxes. He mentioned
    > also that in this way I won't pay taxes either. I understand his
    > concern, but what should I do in order to make sure that this will not
    > be just a 'mutual understanding' but a real agreement?
    > I checked this lawyer with the Law Society and he is in good standing.
    > What does everybody here recommend I should do? What's the best
    > course of action to take to minimize the time to PR status?'
    > Thanks for advice!
 

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