I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
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Mr McGoo
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I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
I applied for Skilled Immigration in March 2005 and I'm patiently sitting out the 2 year wait. But an opportunity has come my way that I think I can use to sit out a year of that wait in Canada.
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Originally Posted by mrmcgoo
I applied for Skilled Immigration in March 2005 and I'm patiently sitting out the 2 year wait. But an opportunity has come my way that I think I can use to sit out a year of that wait in Canada.
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
And your salary goes into you other country account first before being moved to your Canadian account.
You would need to check out the immigration sight for exact visa procedure.
One could leave the application you have going at present as still live.
The file number you have for that is the one you use when you file any other types of applications.
Your kids education?
You will have to check that one out.
If this company wants a few meetings where your presence is required, won`t you spend a fortune in commutin`?
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Thanks for the reply Steve, in terms of the company, my on-site costs are already high that they already avoid needing me in person! Anyway we have video conferencing! Although it will be unsociable working hours!
My real area of uncertainty is being able to extend my stay from 6 months to 12. As a Brit I don't need an initial visitors visa but beyond that I'm not sure.
I've trawled the CIC site and can't find conclusive details which would cover my situation.
Cheers
Chris
My real area of uncertainty is being able to extend my stay from 6 months to 12. As a Brit I don't need an initial visitors visa but beyond that I'm not sure.
I've trawled the CIC site and can't find conclusive details which would cover my situation.
Cheers
Chris
Originally Posted by steve of 5-0
You can work in Canada, if your employer is in another country.
And your salary goes into you other country account first before being moved to your Canadian account.
You would need to check out the immigration sight for exact visa procedure.
One could leave the application you have going at present as still live.
The file number you have for that is the one you use when you file any other types of applications.
Your kids education?
You will have to check that one out.
If this company wants a few meetings where your presence is required, won`t you spend a fortune in commutin`?
And your salary goes into you other country account first before being moved to your Canadian account.
You would need to check out the immigration sight for exact visa procedure.
One could leave the application you have going at present as still live.
The file number you have for that is the one you use when you file any other types of applications.
Your kids education?
You will have to check that one out.
If this company wants a few meetings where your presence is required, won`t you spend a fortune in commutin`?
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Originally Posted by mrmcgoo
We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
Last edited by Posidrive; Sep 26th 2005 at 9:35 pm.
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Mr McGoo
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Ooh! Thanks for that Posidrive - I thought the study permit seemed cheap. My kids are 6 and 9, is it any cheaper at elementary school?
Anyone know how much in BC?
Anyone know how much in BC?
Originally Posted by Posidrive
One nasty financial snag. Since you will be "non resident" (i.e. not paying Canadian taxes), your kids would be classified as overseas students, even with a study permit. Most municipalities will then charge you at least $10,000 per year per child in tuition fees.
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Originally Posted by mrmcgoo
Ooh! Thanks for that Posidrive - I thought the study permit seemed cheap. My kids are 6 and 9, is it any cheaper at elementary school?
Anyone know how much in BC?
Anyone know how much in BC?
It is possible that education in some private (public to we British) schools could actually be cheaper. Again not confirmed.
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Thanks, I'll have to do some more digging on that one but it's not insurmountable (but I'm now glad I've only got 2 kids ).
My plan is still looking like a good one, just more expensive now!
Cheers
Chris
My plan is still looking like a good one, just more expensive now!
Cheers
Chris
Originally Posted by Posidrive
My son is 10 so same grade. I only found about these figures when there was some initial confusion about what fees are payable when you are here on a work permit as opposed to being a PR. Fortunately Calgary and the surrounding district of Rocky view took the sensible approach. I've heard that some areas (Ontario??) will charge these sort of rates to those on a work permit as well which would really stink since you are then paying Canadian taxes. Can't confirm that this latter point is any more than a rumour though.
It is possible that education in some private (public to we British) schools could actually be cheaper. Again not confirmed.
It is possible that education in some private (public to we British) schools could actually be cheaper. Again not confirmed.
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
For one, kids will have to pay international rate for schoold fees which could be pretty steep.
Originally Posted by mrmcgoo
I applied for Skilled Immigration in March 2005 and I'm patiently sitting out the 2 year wait. But an opportunity has come my way that I think I can use to sit out a year of that wait in Canada.
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Originally Posted by mrmcgoo
I applied for Skilled Immigration in March 2005 and I'm patiently sitting out the 2 year wait. But an opportunity has come my way that I think I can use to sit out a year of that wait in Canada.
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
I'm in a similar situation but I'll be working from home for a UK company whilst a perminant resident. Good luck and let us know how you get on.
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
So there are exceptions to practice ie Calgary and surrounding district of Rocky will charge domestic school fees for kids whose parents are on work permit visa. Will that apply for parents on study permit ?
Originally Posted by Posidrive
My son is 10 so same grade. I only found about these figures when there was some initial confusion about what fees are payable when you are here on a work permit as opposed to being a PR. Fortunately Calgary and the surrounding district of Rocky view took the sensible approach. I've heard that some areas (Ontario??) will charge these sort of rates to those on a work permit as well which would really stink since you are then paying Canadian taxes. Can't confirm that this latter point is any more than a rumour though.
It is possible that education in some private (public to we British) schools could actually be cheaper. Again not confirmed.
It is possible that education in some private (public to we British) schools could actually be cheaper. Again not confirmed.
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Originally Posted by hankim2
So there are exceptions to practice ie Calgary and surrounding district of Rocky will charge domestic school fees for kids whose parents are on work permit visa. Will that apply for parents on study permit ?
However, if the parent is in Canada on a study permit, then the parent most likely is paying more for his/her tuition than a Canadian citizen or permanent resident would pay.
Let's say the parent who is in Canada on a study permit is studying at the University of Calgary, for example. The tuition that U of C charges foreign students is considerably higher than the tuition it charges citizens and PRs.
So, while the minor child of a study permit holder does not pay international student tuition in Calgary (as far as I know), the adult student permit holder does pay the international student tuition rate at any institution at which that's applicable.
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thanks Judy for the info. Well at least it is cheaper than also having kids pay international rate.
Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
I don't know about Rocky View. As far as the Calgary Board of Education is concerned, the way I read its web site, it does not charge the international student fee to the minor child of a "lawfully admitted permanent or temporary resident."
However, if the parent is in Canada on a study permit, then the parent most likely is paying more for his/her tuition than a Canadian citizen or permanent resident would pay.
Let's say the parent who is in Canada on a study permit is studying at the University of Calgary, for example. The tuition that U of C charges foreign students is considerably higher than the tuition it charges citizens and PRs.
So, while the minor child of a study permit holder does not pay international student tuition in Calgary (as far as I know), the adult student permit holder does pay the international student tuition rate at any institution at which that's applicable.
However, if the parent is in Canada on a study permit, then the parent most likely is paying more for his/her tuition than a Canadian citizen or permanent resident would pay.
Let's say the parent who is in Canada on a study permit is studying at the University of Calgary, for example. The tuition that U of C charges foreign students is considerably higher than the tuition it charges citizens and PRs.
So, while the minor child of a study permit holder does not pay international student tuition in Calgary (as far as I know), the adult student permit holder does pay the international student tuition rate at any institution at which that's applicable.
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Hi Judy
I was checking the Calgary Board of Edu website and could not locate the section which states... does not charge the international student fee to the minor child of a "lawfully admitted permanent or temporary resident." Could you kindly let me know under which section?
Thanks very much
I was checking the Calgary Board of Edu website and could not locate the section which states... does not charge the international student fee to the minor child of a "lawfully admitted permanent or temporary resident." Could you kindly let me know under which section?
Thanks very much
Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
I don't know about Rocky View. As far as the Calgary Board of Education is concerned, the way I read its web site, it does not charge the international student fee to the minor child of a "lawfully admitted permanent or temporary resident."
However, if the parent is in Canada on a study permit, then the parent most likely is paying more for his/her tuition than a Canadian citizen or permanent resident would pay.
Let's say the parent who is in Canada on a study permit is studying at the University of Calgary, for example. The tuition that U of C charges foreign students is considerably higher than the tuition it charges citizens and PRs.
So, while the minor child of a study permit holder does not pay international student tuition in Calgary (as far as I know), the adult student permit holder does pay the international student tuition rate at any institution at which that's applicable.
However, if the parent is in Canada on a study permit, then the parent most likely is paying more for his/her tuition than a Canadian citizen or permanent resident would pay.
Let's say the parent who is in Canada on a study permit is studying at the University of Calgary, for example. The tuition that U of C charges foreign students is considerably higher than the tuition it charges citizens and PRs.
So, while the minor child of a study permit holder does not pay international student tuition in Calgary (as far as I know), the adult student permit holder does pay the international student tuition rate at any institution at which that's applicable.
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Originally Posted by mrmcgoo
I applied for Skilled Immigration in March 2005 and I'm patiently sitting out the 2 year wait. But an opportunity has come my way that I think I can use to sit out a year of that wait in Canada.
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
I'm interested in anyones thoughts on whether this is feasible or not!
I've been offered effectively a full time contract for a UK company (I've worked for this company on and off for over 10 years now). And it's specifically to work from home. It's an IT development job so working over the internet is not an issue, I've already done loads of work for them that way. They are aware of my desire to come to Canada and I don't think they will have a problem with my plan (I'm already 100 miles away so a few thousand more won't hurt ).
The plan is to come to Canada in June with my family as visitors, which gives us 6 months, which can be extended (but I'm not sure how accommodating Canada is on that score). We will rent a property, get student permits so the kids can go to school in Canada. Hopefully, we will be allowed to stay long enough on this basis until our immigration visa is sorted.
I could speed up the immigration by getting a job in Canada - but to get UK IT contract rates in a country where the cost of living is much less is very appealing.
I'm aware we'll have to come back for medicals and interviews.
Can anyone see any snags or pitfuls?
Unfortunately (and I know this because yours was my original plan) I believe it is illegal as you are working "IN" Canada whilst being on visitor status.
If you are under 35 and a university graduate you could apply for a BUNAC Work Canada temporary one year visa. That's what I did.
I hope this helps.
M.
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Re: I have a cunning plan ... but will it work?
Originally Posted by MartinTheBrit
Unfortunately (and I know this because yours was my original plan) I believe it is illegal as you are working "IN" Canada whilst being on visitor status.
M.
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