Blue143snow

Hi, Can anyone please tell me whether there are certain conditions
that must be fulfilled when obtaining a job offer for immigration
purposes? Does the potential employer have to prove to HRDC that they
can not find a Canadian to fill that role? I know this is still the
case with temporary work permits but was not sure if it was still the
case for immigration.

Thanks for your help.

Andrew Miller

If you don't want to work in Canada prior to becoming a PR then employer
doesn't need to prove that they cannot find a Canadian candidate. But still
they must apply for arranged employment opinion to HRDC and only with such
positive opinion officer processing your immigration application will
consider granting you bonus points.

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../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________


"blue143snow" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Hi, Can anyone please tell me whether there are certain conditions
    > that must be fulfilled when obtaining a job offer for immigration
    > purposes? Does the potential employer have to prove to HRDC that they
    > can not find a Canadian to fill that role? I know this is still the
    > case with temporary work permits but was not sure if it was still the
    > case for immigration.
    > Thanks for your help.

David Cohen

In article ,
[email protected] says...
    > Hi, Can anyone please tell me whether there are certain conditions
    > that must be fulfilled when obtaining a job offer for immigration
    > purposes? Does the potential employer have to prove to HRDC that they
    > can not find a Canadian to fill that role? I know this is still the
    > case with temporary work permits but was not sure if it was still the
    > case for immigration.

Validation of a job offer is required to obtain the points on the
Arranged Employment factor. This requires that the employer demonstrate
to HRDC that a significant effort had been made to hire a Canadian; that
effort failed; and that you are qualified in a manner that those
applicants were not. Additional information on this topic may be found
at Campbell, Cohen's web site at the following URL:

http://canadavisa.com/documents/factor5.htm

________
CAMPBELL, COHEN - attorneys at law
tel:514.937.9445 / fax:514.937.2618
[email protected]
http://canadavisa.com

Online Community: http://canadavisa.com/community

Andrew Miller

Not entirely correct. HRDC validation is only needed if applicant wants to
obtain work permit before becoming a PR. If applicant doesn't want to work
in Canada prior to landing then all what is required from HRDC is the
arranged employment opinion and application for such doesn't require any
proof that no Canadian can be found. See 82(2)(c) below please:

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82. (1) In this section, "arranged employment" means an offer of
indeterminate employment in Canada.

Arranged employment (10 points)

(2) Ten points shall be awarded to a skilled worker for arranged employment
in Canada if they are able to perform and are likely to accept and carry out
the employment and

(a) the skilled worker is in Canada and holds a work permit and

(i) there has been a determination by an officer under section 203 that
the performance of the employment by the skilled worker would be likely to
result in a neutral or positive economic effect in Canada,

(ii) the skilled worker is currently working in that employment,

(iii) the work permit is valid for at least 12 months after the date of
the application for a permanent resident visa, and

(iv) the employer has made an offer to employ the skilled worker on an
indeterminate basis once the permanent resident visa is issued to the
skilled worker;

(b) the skilled worker is in Canada and holds a work permit referred to in
paragraph 204(a) or 205(a) and the circumstances in subparagraphs (a)(ii) to
(iv) apply; or

(c) the skilled worker does not intend to work in Canada before being issued
a permanent resident visa and does not hold a work permit and

(i) the employer has made an offer to employ the skilled worker on an
indeterminate basis once the permanent resident visa is issued to the
skilled worker, and

(ii) an officer has approved that offer of employment based on an
opinion provided to the officer by the Department of Human Resources
Development at the request of the employer or an officer that

(A) the offer of employment is genuine,

(B) the employment is not part-time or seasonal employment,
and

(C) the wages and working conditions of the employment would be
sufficient to attract and retain Canadian citizens.
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----

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________



--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________


"David Cohen" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > In article ,
    > [email protected] says...
    > > Hi, Can anyone please tell me whether there are certain conditions
    > > that must be fulfilled when obtaining a job offer for immigration
    > > purposes? Does the potential employer have to prove to HRDC that they
    > > can not find a Canadian to fill that role? I know this is still the
    > > case with temporary work permits but was not sure if it was still the
    > > case for immigration.
    > Validation of a job offer is required to obtain the points on the
    > Arranged Employment factor. This requires that the employer demonstrate
    > to HRDC that a significant effort had been made to hire a Canadian; that
    > effort failed; and that you are qualified in a manner that those
    > applicants were not. Additional information on this topic may be found
    > at Campbell, Cohen's web site at the following URL:
    > http://canadavisa.com/documents/factor5.htm
    > ________
    > CAMPBELL, COHEN - attorneys at law
    > tel:514.937.9445 / fax:514.937.2618
    > [email protected]
    > http://canadavisa.com
    > Online Community: http://canadavisa.com/community

Blue143snow

Thank you so much for your in depth answers. I'm guessing the term
'arranged employment opinion' refers to whether or not the HRDC
approve of the job you have been offered? Are there any guidelines on
the types of jobs they do approve or is it really a case by case
basis?

Thanks once again for your help. I really appreciate it.

Hayley


"Andrew Miller" wrote in message news:...
    > Not entirely correct. HRDC validation is only needed if applicant wants to
    > obtain work permit before becoming a PR. If applicant doesn't want to work
    > in Canada prior to landing then all what is required from HRDC is the
    > arranged employment opinion and application for such doesn't require any
    > proof that no Canadian can be found. See 82(2)(c) below please:
    >
    > -----------------------------------------------------------------
    > 82. (1) In this section, "arranged employment" means an offer of
    > indeterminate employment in Canada.
    >
    > Arranged employment (10 points)
    >
    > (2) Ten points shall be awarded to a skilled worker for arranged employment
    > in Canada if they are able to perform and are likely to accept and carry out
    > the employment and
    >
    > (a) the skilled worker is in Canada and holds a work permit and
    >
    > (i) there has been a determination by an officer under section 203 that
    > the performance of the employment by the skilled worker would be likely to
    > result in a neutral or positive economic effect in Canada,
    >
    > (ii) the skilled worker is currently working in that employment,
    >
    > (iii) the work permit is valid for at least 12 months after the date of
    > the application for a permanent resident visa, and
    >
    > (iv) the employer has made an offer to employ the skilled worker on an
    > indeterminate basis once the permanent resident visa is issued to the
    > skilled worker;
    >
    > (b) the skilled worker is in Canada and holds a work permit referred to in
    > paragraph 204(a) or 205(a) and the circumstances in subparagraphs (a)(ii) to
    > (iv) apply; or
    >
    > (c) the skilled worker does not intend to work in Canada before being issued
    > a permanent resident visa and does not hold a work permit and
    >
    > (i) the employer has made an offer to employ the skilled worker on an
    > indeterminate basis once the permanent resident visa is issued to the
    > skilled worker, and
    >
    > (ii) an officer has approved that offer of employment based on an
    > opinion provided to the officer by the Department of Human Resources
    > Development at the request of the employer or an officer that
    >
    > (A) the offer of employment is genuine,
    >
    > (B) the employment is not part-time or seasonal employment,
    > and
    >
    > (C) the wages and working conditions of the employment would be
    > sufficient to attract and retain Canadian citizens.
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > ----
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >
    > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    >
    > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    >
    > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    >
    > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "David Cohen" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > In article ,
    > > [email protected] says...
    > > > Hi, Can anyone please tell me whether there are certain conditions
    > > > that must be fulfilled when obtaining a job offer for immigration
    > > > purposes? Does the potential employer have to prove to HRDC that they
    > > > can not find a Canadian to fill that role? I know this is still the
    > > > case with temporary work permits but was not sure if it was still the
    > > > case for immigration.
    > >
    > > Validation of a job offer is required to obtain the points on the
    > > Arranged Employment factor. This requires that the employer demonstrate
    > > to HRDC that a significant effort had been made to hire a Canadian; that
    > > effort failed; and that you are qualified in a manner that those
    > > applicants were not. Additional information on this topic may be found
    > > at Campbell, Cohen's web site at the following URL:
    > >
    > > http://canadavisa.com/documents/factor5.htm
    > >
    > > ________
    > > CAMPBELL, COHEN - attorneys at law
    > > tel:514.937.9445 / fax:514.937.2618
    > > [email protected]
    > > http://canadavisa.com
    > >
    > > Online Community: http://canadavisa.com/community

Andrew Miller

It is based on case by case basis.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)

For confidential phone consultation go here:

http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
________________________________


"blue143snow" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Thank you so much for your in depth answers. I'm guessing the term
    > 'arranged employment opinion' refers to whether or not the HRDC
    > approve of the job you have been offered? Are there any guidelines on
    > the types of jobs they do approve or is it really a case by case
    > basis?
    > Thanks once again for your help. I really appreciate it.
    > Hayley
    > "Andrew Miller" wrote in message
news:...
    > > Not entirely correct. HRDC validation is only needed if applicant wants
to
    > > obtain work permit before becoming a PR. If applicant doesn't want to
work
    > > in Canada prior to landing then all what is required from HRDC is the
    > > arranged employment opinion and application for such doesn't require any
    > > proof that no Canadian can be found. See 82(2)(c) below please:
    > >
    > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
    > > 82. (1) In this section, "arranged employment" means an offer of
    > > indeterminate employment in Canada.
    > >
    > > Arranged employment (10 points)
    > >
    > > (2) Ten points shall be awarded to a skilled worker for arranged
employment
    > > in Canada if they are able to perform and are likely to accept and carry
out
    > > the employment and
    > >
    > > (a) the skilled worker is in Canada and holds a work permit and
    > >
    > > (i) there has been a determination by an officer under section 203
that
    > > the performance of the employment by the skilled worker would be likely
to
    > > result in a neutral or positive economic effect in Canada,
    > >
    > > (ii) the skilled worker is currently working in that employment,
    > >
    > > (iii) the work permit is valid for at least 12 months after the
date of
    > > the application for a permanent resident visa, and
    > >
    > > (iv) the employer has made an offer to employ the skilled worker on
an
    > > indeterminate basis once the permanent resident visa is issued to the
    > > skilled worker;
    > >
    > > (b) the skilled worker is in Canada and holds a work permit referred to
in
    > > paragraph 204(a) or 205(a) and the circumstances in subparagraphs
(a)(ii) to
    > > (iv) apply; or
    > >
    > > (c) the skilled worker does not intend to work in Canada before being
issued
    > > a permanent resident visa and does not hold a work permit and
    > >
    > > (i) the employer has made an offer to employ the skilled worker on
an
    > > indeterminate basis once the permanent resident visa is issued to the
    > > skilled worker, and
    > >
    > > (ii) an officer has approved that offer of employment based on an
    > > opinion provided to the officer by the Department of Human Resources
    > > Development at the request of the employer or an officer that
    > >
    > > (A) the offer of employment is genuine,
    > >
    > > (B) the employment is not part-time or seasonal employment,
    > > and
    > >
    > > (C) the wages and working conditions of the employment would be
    > > sufficient to attract and retain Canadian citizens.
    > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
    > > ----
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > >
    > > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    > >
    > > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > >
    > > For confidential phone consultation go here:
    > >
    > > http://members.yahoo.liveadvice.com/andrewmiller_canada
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "David Cohen" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > In article ,
    > > > [email protected] says...
    > > > > Hi, Can anyone please tell me whether there are certain conditions
    > > > > that must be fulfilled when obtaining a job offer for immigration
    > > > > purposes? Does the potential employer have to prove to HRDC that
they
    > > > > can not find a Canadian to fill that role? I know this is still the
    > > > > case with temporary work permits but was not sure if it was still
the
    > > > > case for immigration.
    > > >
    > > > Validation of a job offer is required to obtain the points on the
    > > > Arranged Employment factor. This requires that the employer
demonstrate
    > > > to HRDC that a significant effort had been made to hire a Canadian;
that
    > > > effort failed; and that you are qualified in a manner that those
    > > > applicants were not. Additional information on this topic may be found
    > > > at Campbell, Cohen's web site at the following URL:
    > > >
    > > > http://canadavisa.com/documents/factor5.htm
    > > >
    > > > ________
    > > > CAMPBELL, COHEN - attorneys at law
    > > > tel:514.937.9445 / fax:514.937.2618
    > > > [email protected]
    > > > http://canadavisa.com
    > > >
    > > > Online Community: http://canadavisa.com/community