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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   Immigration & Citizenship (Canada) (https://britishexpats.com/forum/immigration-citizenship-canada-33/)
-   -   FSW List Announced Today (https://britishexpats.com/forum/immigration-citizenship-canada-33/fsw-list-announced-today-794432/)

AmyDavid Apr 18th 2013 4:08 pm
FSW List Announced Today
 
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/departm...2013-04-18.asp

Siouxie Apr 18th 2013 4:09 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 10666463)
You beat me to it by 1 minute, lol.

:D

orly Apr 18th 2013 4:10 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Did say you'd be wrong with the announcement dates in the other thread ;)

Mikeypm Apr 18th 2013 4:11 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Great news if your occupation is one of the 24 on the list and you get your app in before the 5000 cap. I'd imagine there are a lot of disappointed folk out there. Me included, looks like its TWP or bust for me

AmyDavid Apr 18th 2013 4:14 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by orly (Post 10666468)
Did say you'd be wrong with the announcement dates in the other thread ;)
Can you tell me lotto numbers for the weekend?

orly Apr 18th 2013 4:14 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
I confess that I had some insider knowledge Amy but it wouldn't have been right to release it before CIC did obviously.

Nice to see one of the websites I helped create in the Educational Credential Assessment (ECA) section ;)

AmyDavid Apr 18th 2013 4:18 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by orly (Post 10666478)
I confess that I had some insider knowledge Amy but it wouldn't have been right to release it before CIC did obviously.

Nice to see one of the websites I helped create in the Educational Credential Assessment (ECA) section ;)
Ahhh that makes sense then! ICAS or WES?

Former Lancastrian Apr 18th 2013 4:19 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Let the fun and games commence :lol:
5000 cap, 24 occupations and only 300 in each occupation wow that will piss some off.
Good luck to those who apply.
I suggest people read the NOC codes to see if they qualify.

PMM Apr 18th 2013 4:24 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Hi


Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 10666463)
1. One thing of interest is the AEO being done away with, that was in the proposed regulations that an LMO would be needed. I am wondering if a person is working in Canada and the employer wants to support his/her application for PR as "arranged employment" that it won't be accepted unless there is a LMO in place?

christmasoompa Apr 18th 2013 4:25 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by orly (Post 10666468)
Did say you'd be wrong with the announcement dates in the other thread ;)
Or, as my eight year old would say, 'I told you so'.

Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 10666463)
Thanks Amy, much appreciated. I'll make this a sticky thread.

orly Apr 18th 2013 4:25 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 10666490)
Ahhh that makes sense then! ICAS or WES?
I'd rather not say precisely which. I don't want any oddballs to catch on and think I have all sorts of information that I'm not privy to.

The real test, after many months of testing, comes now that it's open to the world...

christmasoompa Apr 18th 2013 4:27 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Blimey, just read the occupations - can't believe nurses aren't on it! *shocked face*

I know several people suspected nurses would be taken off the last list, but somehow I wasn't expecting them to be taken off this time around.

Former Lancastrian Apr 18th 2013 4:31 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 10666509)
Blimey, just read the occupations - can't believe nurses aren't on it! *shocked face*

I know several people suspected nurses would be taken off the last list, but somehow I wasn't expecting them to be taken off this time around.
Actually you might be surprised how many nurses there are qualified in Canada who cant get full time jobs and I tend to think they would be pretty pissed at seeing it on the FSW list open to foreign workers. Thats my take on it.
Sort of like Teachers.

orly Apr 18th 2013 4:31 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 10666504)
Or, as my eight year old would say, 'I told you so'.



Thanks Amy, much appreciated. I'll make this a sticky thread.
I suppose it's rather odd to be working on a website for the FSW PR stream while being in the process of a PR application myself (family class albeit).

At the very least it gave me a small insight into a small piece of the big machine of the federal government.

I just hope the site and application process I helped do some updates to performs admirably lol.

Former Lancastrian Apr 18th 2013 4:34 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by orly (Post 10666516)
I suppose it's rather odd to be working on a website for the FSW PR stream while being in the process of a PR application myself (family class albeit).

At the very least it gave me a small insight into a small piece of the big machine of the federal government.

I just hope the site and application process I helped do some updates to performs admirably lol.
Did you work on the IEC programme :rofl:

orly Apr 18th 2013 4:37 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10666522)
Did you work on the IEC programme :rofl:
No, fortunately :D

Former Lancastrian Apr 18th 2013 4:42 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by orly (Post 10666528)
No, fortunately :D
Perhaps you should volunteer your services to CIC as they seem to be having one or two complaints about the new online IEC programme.

orly Apr 18th 2013 4:43 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 10666539)
Perhaps you should volunteer your services to CIC as they seem to be having one or two complaints about the new online IEC programme.
I think I'll pass.

gb_griffiths Apr 18th 2013 5:42 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
< snip >! Great big pile of < sniping > < snip >!

< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!

Back to the drawing board.

Circa £1,000 down and thoroughly < sniped > off. At least I got out of that lawyer situation before they bled me dryer than Pharaoh 's flip-flop.

Edit: Thank you to everyone on here who has taken the time to help me and answer my questions. If I can work out an alternative way in I'll probably be back to pester you all again at a later date.

Special mentions:
Christmasoompa (despite heavily editing my industrial English)
AmyDavid
graham1710
Howefamily
siouxie

Mikeypm Apr 18th 2013 5:45 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Time for a very stiff drink I think:beer::beer::beer:


Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666648)
< snip >! Great big pile of < sniping > < snip >!

< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!

Back to the drawing board.

Circa £1,000 down and thoroughly < sniped > off. At least I got out of that lawyer situation before the bled me dryer than Pharaoh 's flip-flop.

gb_griffiths Apr 18th 2013 5:52 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 10666649)
Time for a very stiff drink I think:beer::beer::beer:
Already on it my man. Already on it. I read the NOCs available. Checked if I could sneak in on the only finance one there. I couldn't. Hit the beer.

I hope you make it buddy.

Siouxie Apr 18th 2013 5:55 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666655)
Already on it my man. Already on it. I read the NOCs available. Checked if I could sneak in on the only finance one there. I couldn't. Hit the beer.

I hope you make buddy.
Thanks for the thanks, much appreciated :D

I thought it unlikely that accountants would be on the list, to be honest, so your next option is to perhaps look into one of the PNP streams. Convert your qualifications to Canadian recognised ones - I suspect they won't look at your resume unless you do - and start contacting employers again.

Keep your chin up - there are ways and means.

:)

AmyDavid Apr 18th 2013 6:01 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Come on people - positive thoughts. More thinking and maybe some more hard work are required, but you can find a way to get here. It's just more of a pain now. :fingerscrossed:

gb_griffiths Apr 18th 2013 6:23 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by siouxie (Post 10666659)
Thanks for the thanks, much appreciated :D

I thought it unlikely that accountants would be on the list, to be honest, so your next option is to perhaps look into one of the PNP streams. Convert your qualifications to Canadian recognised ones - I suspect they won't look at your resume unless you do - and start contacting employers again.

Keep your chin up - there are ways and means.

:)
I am inclined to just get on a plane and come over there this summer. Visit a number of provinces and hang around the seedier parts of town, you know where the bankers are. See if I can make some connections (or have a shot-gun marriage to a Canadian). At the very worst it'd be a mega holiday.

Mikeypm Apr 18th 2013 6:25 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666696)
I am inclined to just get on a plane and come over there this summer. Visit a number of provinces and hang around the seedier parts of town, you know where the bankers are. See if I can make some connections (or have a shot-gun marriage to a Canadian). At the very worst it'd be a mega holiday.
Buy a ticket and go over make some connections and I'm sure it will be worth your while :)

AmyDavid Apr 18th 2013 6:25 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666696)
I am inclined to just get on a plane and come over there this summer. Visit a number of provinces and hang around the seedier parts of town, you know where the bankers are. See if I can make some connections (or have a shot-gun marriage to a Canadian). At the very worst it'd be a mega holiday.
It's the best way to find work - actually come knocking on doors and meet potential employers.

Good luck!

Waggle Apr 18th 2013 7:06 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 10666469)
Great news if your occupation is one of the 24 on the list and you get your app in before the 5000 cap. I'd imagine there are a lot of disappointed folk out there. Me included, looks like its TWP or bust for me
Computer programmers are on the list and there's total cap of 300.

Hmm, anyone taking bets as to how many seconds after 9am on 4th May it will be before the cap is full?

Ironically I am a computer programmer but when I came to Canada my occupation wasn't deemed in-demand, my wife's pharmacy skills were.

I think if I were applying now I'd book myself a holiday to Nova Scotia for the first week in May and hand the application in person over the desk (standing in a queue of 200+ other developers with the same idea)...... ;p

Wayne.

DingDandDoo Apr 18th 2013 7:39 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Guys, whats the process in applying for this. I work as a computer engineer and its on the list. Do i need a job offer for this visa? Also, how much does it cost?

gb_griffiths Apr 18th 2013 8:59 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
On the plus side I can finally stop following JK on twitter avoid his banal updates.

Mikeypm Apr 18th 2013 9:01 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666906)
On the plus side I can finally stop following JK on twitter avoid his banal updates.
Maybe follow Will Ferrell instead ;)

Waggle Apr 18th 2013 9:15 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666648)
< snip >! Great big pile of < sniping > < snip >!

< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!
< snip >!

Back to the drawing board.

Circa £1,000 down and thoroughly < sniped > off. At least I got out of that lawyer situation before they bled me dryer than Pharaoh 's flip-flop.

Edit: Thank you to everyone on here who has taken the time to help me and answer my questions. If I can work out an alternative way in I'll probably be back to pester you all again at a later date.

Special mentions:
Christmasoompa (despite heavily editing my industrial English)
AmyDavid
graham1710
Howefamily
siouxie
Why not book a holiday to Canada, see if you can secure some interviews ahead of time, preferably with an employer who has heard of the word LMO, and see if you can secure a job offer?

Then you don't have to worry about getting within the cap for the May intake, you won't even need proof of funding.

Will take more effort but many people on this forum have got into Canada that way, so it's doable.

Best of luck,
Wayne.

gb_griffiths Apr 18th 2013 9:21 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by Waggle (Post 10666922)
Why not book a holiday to Canada, see if you can secure some interviews ahead of time, preferably with an employer who has heard of the word LMO, and see if you can secure a job offer?

Then you don't have to worry about getting within the cap for the May intake, you won't even need proof of funding.

Will take more effort but many people on this forum have got into Canada that way, so it's doable.

Best of luck,
Wayne.
Way ahead of you Wayne. See a post or two above. It all depends on my reaction to a possible UK job offer now. If job offer occurs then option...

1) Steady Eddy career enhancement in the UK

v's

2) < Snip > or bust all out gung-ho attempt to get to Canada?

Right now I'm feeling reckless.

Siouxie Apr 18th 2013 9:24 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666930)
Way ahead of you Wayne. See a post or two above. It all depends on my reaction to a possible UK job offer now. If job offer occurs then option...

1) Steady Eddy career enhancement in the UK

v's

2) < Snip > or bust all out gung-ho attempt to get to Canada?

Right now I'm feeling reckless.
But before you come over for a recce (if you decide to go for broke) make sure you have converted your professional qualifications or you are going to get nowhere.

Treat it as an holiday with a bit of job hunting as an added bonus and you won't go too far wrong.

:)

Waggle Apr 18th 2013 9:25 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by DingDandDoo (Post 10666779)
Guys, whats the process in applying for this. I work as a computer engineer and its on the list. Do i need a job offer for this visa? Also, how much does it cost?
Hi - you don't need a job offer.
This is a list of occupations which are eligible to apply without one.

First, u need to make sure you have the 67 points required. You can take a self-test here:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...sess/index.asp

Then you will need to get all the forms and supporting documents together. This will include:
- Proof of main language (which I am guessing will be English), IELTS is the most common option
- Proof of funding
- Educational documents (University Transcripts must be obtained from the University in sealed envelopes)
- Work references, listing duties performed. A substantial amount of these must match the duties listed in the NOC description.

Processing fees are probably around £1000 but it depends on how many people are in your application (spouse, kids etc).

Obviously time is a factor but then quite a lot of people will be in the same boat, with the list only just have come out.

Probably the deciding factor will be how quickly you can take an IELTS test and get the results, if you haven't already.

We applied in 2010 some 8 weeks after the list had been announced with my wife's occupation having just appeared on the list, and we comfortably got within the cap. BUT the cap was 1000 back then, and I fear computer programmers will be a more popular occupation.

Best of luck,
Wayne.

Mikeypm Apr 18th 2013 9:28 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666930)
Way ahead of you Wayne. See a post or two above. It all depends on my reaction to a possible UK job offer now. If job offer occurs then option...

1) Steady Eddy career enhancement in the UK

v's

2) < Snip > or bust all out gung-ho attempt to get to Canada?

Right now I'm feeling reckless.
I'd say you've gone this far, go with your guy and take that reckless spirit and jump on monmondo or skyscanner tonight and book a flight :)

gb_griffiths Apr 18th 2013 9:29 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by siouxie (Post 10666933)
But before you come over for a recce (if you decide to go for broke) make sure you have converted your professional qualifications or you are going to get nowhere.

Treat it as an holiday with a bit of job hunting as an added bonus and you won't go too far wrong.

:)
You say that but being handsome makes a huge difference ;).

Siouxie Apr 18th 2013 9:30 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666942)
You say that but being handsome makes a huge difference ;).
If that were true (and for a female being awesomely attractive) then why am I still out of work?

:rofl:

Mikeypm Apr 18th 2013 9:33 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by gb_griffiths (Post 10666942)
You say that but being handsome makes a huge difference ;).
Handsome is relative, after all they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)

Mikeypm Apr 18th 2013 9:33 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by siouxie (Post 10666944)
If that were true (and for a female being awesomely attractive) then why am I still out of work?

:rofl:
Depends what work your after;)

gb_griffiths Apr 18th 2013 9:34 pm
Re: FSW List Announced Today
 
Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 10666947)
Handsome is relative, after all they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder :)
Or 'beerholder'.


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