Fatal Mistake?
May 23rd 2003, 9:26 pm
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Fatal Mistake?
Out of our desire to be together sooner than later, I wished to sponsor my
wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there in
Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
violations included:
1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened, happened
and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
she'd be refused, but she was.
So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and note
that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
--
Gerry
wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there in
Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
violations included:
1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened, happened
and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
she'd be refused, but she was.
So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and note
that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
--
Gerry
May 23rd 2003, 11:18 pm
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Re: Fatal Mistake?
Sorry to be harsh but it serves you right for being dishonest. Shouldnt have
been so daft.
Nats
"Gerry" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Out of our desire to be together sooner than later, I wished to sponsor my
> wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there
in
> Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
> deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
> under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
> the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
> people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
> hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
> difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
> violations included:
> 1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
> 2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
> 3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
> Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened,
happened
> and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
> she'd be refused, but she was.
> So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
> question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
> Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and
note
> that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
> application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
> I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
> humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
> immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
> whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
> being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
> Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
> --
> Gerry
been so daft.
Nats
"Gerry" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Out of our desire to be together sooner than later, I wished to sponsor my
> wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there
in
> Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
> deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
> under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
> the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
> people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
> hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
> difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
> violations included:
> 1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
> 2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
> 3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
> Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened,
happened
> and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
> she'd be refused, but she was.
> So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
> question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
> Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and
note
> that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
> application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
> I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
> humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
> immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
> whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
> being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
> Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
> --
> Gerry
May 23rd 2003, 11:31 pm
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Re: Fatal Mistake?
"Nats" wrote in message
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> Sorry to be harsh but it serves you right for being dishonest. Shouldnt
have
> been so daft.
> Nats
Oh yes, because we wanted to be together so badly we took the advice of a
consultant to be dishonest we deserve never to have happiness and be
together in this lifetime. Well thanks for the expert help and addressing
the subject of my post, 'arse'hole.
--
Gerry
news:[email protected]...
> Sorry to be harsh but it serves you right for being dishonest. Shouldnt
have
> been so daft.
> Nats
Oh yes, because we wanted to be together so badly we took the advice of a
consultant to be dishonest we deserve never to have happiness and be
together in this lifetime. Well thanks for the expert help and addressing
the subject of my post, 'arse'hole.
--
Gerry
May 24th 2003, 5:06 am
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Re: Fatal Mistake?
Sue the lawyer who gave you the wrong advice. Make lots of money from the
law suite. Marry someone inside Canada and divorce your wife in Manila.
Just kidding.
I had a similar situation with my wife after we got engaged and I told her
to go and apply for a visitor visa while pretending that she is not
engaged to a PR in Canada. She did apply but guess what the lady who
interviewed her was a local hire (has been working in the Embassy for 15
years) and
she knew my Aunt (some how) and she knew that I lived in Canada (she
actually checked me out in her computer) and found out that my fiancee'
(then) was
lying. At the end my finacee' was refused a visit visa. I started the
sponsorship process after we got married and it took me 9 months to get her
here. The question about
"have you been refused a visitor's visa before" was answered YES and the
reason given was the truth (i.e., engaged to a PR who lived in Canada). It
is a bit different
from your situation but I guess the best you can do now is to hire a
reputable immigration lawyer (not like those here in the newsgroup whom I
call HELPERS).
Get someone professional and hope for the best.
Wish you luck.
GG
"Gerry" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Out of our desire to be together sooner than later, I wished to sponsor my
> wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there
in
> Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
> deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
> under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
> the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
> people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
> hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
> difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
> violations included:
> 1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
> 2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
> 3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
> Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened,
happened
> and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
> she'd be refused, but she was.
> So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
> question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
> Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and
note
> that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
> application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
> I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
> humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
> immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
> whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
> being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
> Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
> --
> Gerry
law suite. Marry someone inside Canada and divorce your wife in Manila.
Just kidding.
I had a similar situation with my wife after we got engaged and I told her
to go and apply for a visitor visa while pretending that she is not
engaged to a PR in Canada. She did apply but guess what the lady who
interviewed her was a local hire (has been working in the Embassy for 15
years) and
she knew my Aunt (some how) and she knew that I lived in Canada (she
actually checked me out in her computer) and found out that my fiancee'
(then) was
lying. At the end my finacee' was refused a visit visa. I started the
sponsorship process after we got married and it took me 9 months to get her
here. The question about
"have you been refused a visitor's visa before" was answered YES and the
reason given was the truth (i.e., engaged to a PR who lived in Canada). It
is a bit different
from your situation but I guess the best you can do now is to hire a
reputable immigration lawyer (not like those here in the newsgroup whom I
call HELPERS).
Get someone professional and hope for the best.
Wish you luck.
GG
"Gerry" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Out of our desire to be together sooner than later, I wished to sponsor my
> wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there
in
> Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
> deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
> under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
> the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
> people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
> hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
> difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
> violations included:
> 1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
> 2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
> 3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
> Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened,
happened
> and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
> she'd be refused, but she was.
> So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
> question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
> Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and
note
> that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
> application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
> I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
> humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
> immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
> whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
> being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
> Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
> --
> Gerry
May 24th 2003, 7:51 am
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Re: Fatal Mistake?
Gerry:
The best way to bring your fiancee to Canada to live with you is to apply
through regular channels, and with as much honesty as you can possibly
provide. Even if you somehow successfully got her in the first time, you
might regret it if, ten or twenty years down the line, CIC will discover
fraud in her application and send her back. Also, there are no "quick fix"
solutions to obtaining immigrant visas (or any visa for that matter), so
your safest and "easiest" option is just to go to CIC's website and follow
their instructions and satisfy their requirements.
Are you a Canadian citizen? If you are, I believe your wife should have no
trouble being approved for PR provided you qualify as a sponsor. Hope this
helps --- good luck!
Greg
"Gerry" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Out of our desire to be together sooner than later, I wished to sponsor my
> wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there
in
> Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
> deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
> under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
> the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
> people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
> hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
> difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
> violations included:
> 1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
> 2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
> 3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
> Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened,
happened
> and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
> she'd be refused, but she was.
> So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
> question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
> Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and
note
> that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
> application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
> I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
> humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
> immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
> whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
> being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
> Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
> --
> Gerry
The best way to bring your fiancee to Canada to live with you is to apply
through regular channels, and with as much honesty as you can possibly
provide. Even if you somehow successfully got her in the first time, you
might regret it if, ten or twenty years down the line, CIC will discover
fraud in her application and send her back. Also, there are no "quick fix"
solutions to obtaining immigrant visas (or any visa for that matter), so
your safest and "easiest" option is just to go to CIC's website and follow
their instructions and satisfy their requirements.
Are you a Canadian citizen? If you are, I believe your wife should have no
trouble being approved for PR provided you qualify as a sponsor. Hope this
helps --- good luck!
Greg
"Gerry" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Out of our desire to be together sooner than later, I wished to sponsor my
> wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there
in
> Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
> deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
> under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
> the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
> people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
> hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
> difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
> violations included:
> 1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
> 2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
> 3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
> Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened,
happened
> and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
> she'd be refused, but she was.
> So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
> question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
> Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and
note
> that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
> application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
> I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
> humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
> immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
> whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
> being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
> Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
> --
> Gerry
May 24th 2003, 3:42 pm
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Re: Fatal Mistake?
Divorce her and marry again. You'll get new marriage certificate,
dated by recent date.
dated by recent date.
May 25th 2003, 12:13 am
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Re: Fatal Mistake?
No, not going to fly....
"Karen" wrote in message
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> Divorce her and marry again. You'll get new marriage certificate,
> dated by recent date.
"Karen" wrote in message
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> Divorce her and marry again. You'll get new marriage certificate,
> dated by recent date.
May 25th 2003, 12:19 am
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Re: Fatal Mistake?
I believe your question should be??/
IS THIS A RECTIFIABLE OR PERMANENT ERROR?
If I were you I'd ask PETER LARLEE - [email protected]
Like other regular contributors in this NG (Miller, Metcalfe, et cetera) -
PETER is A-one..one of the tops - pricey though..
good luck
"Gerry" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Out of our desire to be together sooner than later, I wished to sponsor my
> wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there
in
> Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
> deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
> under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
> the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
> people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
> hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
> difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
> violations included:
> 1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
> 2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
> 3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
> Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened,
happened
> and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
> she'd be refused, but she was.
> So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
> question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
> Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and
note
> that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
> application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
> I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
> humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
> immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
> whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
> being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
> Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
> --
> Gerry
IS THIS A RECTIFIABLE OR PERMANENT ERROR?
If I were you I'd ask PETER LARLEE - [email protected]
Like other regular contributors in this NG (Miller, Metcalfe, et cetera) -
PETER is A-one..one of the tops - pricey though..
good luck
"Gerry" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Out of our desire to be together sooner than later, I wished to sponsor my
> wife of Filipino nationality inside Canada. So I hired a consultant there
in
> Manila for her that would help her with a tourist visa application before
> deciding to get to work on a regular out of country spousal sponsorship
> under the Family Class. As usually happens there, things were "fixed" in
> the regular Filipino fashion and I was told by the consultant that only
> people who allow him to "fix" things according to his directions ever have
> hope of being issued a Temporary Resident Visa. Well, we really have
> difficulty being apart so we went for it. Some of the more notable
> violations included:
> 1. Not mentioning our marriage or myself.
> 2. Her Filipino ex-common law partner was listed instead
> 3. Employment details faked (she is unemployed mom)
> Yeah, yeah.. I know. Never lie to immigration. But what happened,
happened
> and I can't go back and change it. It never really occurred to us that
> she'd be refused, but she was.
> So now I'm sponsoring her, getting everything together and I notice the
> question on her form "have you been refused a visitor's visa before".
> Obviously, they're going to pull her old TRV application in Manila and
note
> that our marriage certificate is dated prior to the date on the TRV
> application where she listed her ex as a common law partner only. Oh dear
> I'm so scared... a case of inadmissibility? Or chance to win an appeal on
> humanitarian compassionate grounds? I'd really like to come clean with
> immigration, and get this mess straightened out if possible. I mean the
> whole reason we went through with it was because we find it so difficult
> being apart. Guess it's lawyer time before I submit this Sponsorship
> Application. Any good ones with experience in such screw ups?
> --
> Gerry
