Graduate study in canada
May 15th 2003, 3:29 am
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Graduate study in canada
Hi
I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like University of toronto for comp sci program.
My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
Thanks in Advance
I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like University of toronto for comp sci program.
My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
Thanks in Advance
May 16th 2003, 3:59 am
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Re: Graduate study in canada
dudewheresmycar wrote in message news:...
> Hi
>
> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
>
> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
> University of toronto for comp sci program.
>
> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
You are correct about the job market here. We have airline pilots
driving taxi cabs and engineers cleaning vegetables in Canada.
Grad school sounds like a fine idea. You'll need typically the
equivalent of 70% (or 3.0 GPA) to get in. I expect most of the grad
schools would be very crowded by now because of the poor job market.
You can expect very stiff competition for admission. My advice is send
in your application anyway. Some good comp-sci departments you might
try are Waterloo, Toronto, and Simon Fraser. There are many other good
schools far too numerous to name.
I would stop short of saying IT is really not a good field to be in.
It's a risky industry that places very little value on past
experience. The knowledge base is a moving target. Why anyone would
spend years learning the formal basics of a profession only to have to
re-learn it in less than five years is beyond me.
> Hi
>
> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
>
> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
> University of toronto for comp sci program.
>
> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
You are correct about the job market here. We have airline pilots
driving taxi cabs and engineers cleaning vegetables in Canada.
Grad school sounds like a fine idea. You'll need typically the
equivalent of 70% (or 3.0 GPA) to get in. I expect most of the grad
schools would be very crowded by now because of the poor job market.
You can expect very stiff competition for admission. My advice is send
in your application anyway. Some good comp-sci departments you might
try are Waterloo, Toronto, and Simon Fraser. There are many other good
schools far too numerous to name.
I would stop short of saying IT is really not a good field to be in.
It's a risky industry that places very little value on past
experience. The knowledge base is a moving target. Why anyone would
spend years learning the formal basics of a profession only to have to
re-learn it in less than five years is beyond me.
May 16th 2003, 4:10 pm
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Re: Graduate study in canada
"D. Monk" wrote in message
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> I would stop short of saying IT is really not a good field to be in.
> It's a risky industry that places very little value on past
> experience. The knowledge base is a moving target. Why anyone would
> spend years learning the formal basics of a profession only to have to
> re-learn it in less than five years is beyond me.
I agree with what you say. I am retraining myself to get a CGA designation
as we speak and hope that'll open more doors for me in the future. Graduate
study in IT is not as valuable as in other disciplines because everything
will be out dated in 2.5 hours. At least with accounting, you get paid more
with age.
news:[email protected]...
> I would stop short of saying IT is really not a good field to be in.
> It's a risky industry that places very little value on past
> experience. The knowledge base is a moving target. Why anyone would
> spend years learning the formal basics of a profession only to have to
> re-learn it in less than five years is beyond me.
I agree with what you say. I am retraining myself to get a CGA designation
as we speak and hope that'll open more doors for me in the future. Graduate
study in IT is not as valuable as in other disciplines because everything
will be out dated in 2.5 hours. At least with accounting, you get paid more
with age.
May 16th 2003, 7:08 pm
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the competition of getting into u of t computer grad school is very tough, i
think you need at least 80 percent!
"dudewheresmycar" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
news:[email protected]...
> Hi
> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
> University of toronto for comp sci program.
> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
> Thanks in Advance
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
think you need at least 80 percent!
"dudewheresmycar" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
news:[email protected]...
> Hi
> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
> University of toronto for comp sci program.
> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
> Thanks in Advance
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
May 16th 2003, 7:25 pm
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Many say U of Windsor is the best CS grad school in Canada. York U would not
be a bad choice either though one of my friends there said there are lots of
space fro improvement. My experience was GRE score is not the determinin
factor for admission, in schools in Canada or USA.
It's the overall package of the applicant.
>Subject: Re: Graduate study in canada
>From: "abc" [email protected]
>Date: 5/16/03 4:08 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>the competition of getting into u of t computer grad school is very tough, i
>think you need at least 80 percent!
>"dudewheresmycar" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi
>> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
>> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
>> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
>> University of toronto for comp sci program.
>> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
>> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
>> Thanks in Advance
>> --
>> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
be a bad choice either though one of my friends there said there are lots of
space fro improvement. My experience was GRE score is not the determinin
factor for admission, in schools in Canada or USA.
It's the overall package of the applicant.
>Subject: Re: Graduate study in canada
>From: "abc" [email protected]
>Date: 5/16/03 4:08 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>the competition of getting into u of t computer grad school is very tough, i
>think you need at least 80 percent!
>"dudewheresmycar" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi
>> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
>> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
>> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
>> University of toronto for comp sci program.
>> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
>> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
>> Thanks in Advance
>> --
>> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
May 16th 2003, 7:36 pm
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Re: Graduate study in canada
An MBA might be worth considering.
Golmal
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Originally posted by dudewheresmycar
Hi
I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like University of toronto for comp sci program.
My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
Thanks in Advance
Hi
I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like University of toronto for comp sci program.
My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
Thanks in Advance
May 16th 2003, 8:55 pm
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"Golmal" wrote in message
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> An MBA might be worth considering.
Not if you are an immigrant. It's very hard to get a management position
job if you are a recent immigrant with no Canadian experience to speak of.
news:[email protected]...
> An MBA might be worth considering.
Not if you are an immigrant. It's very hard to get a management position
job if you are a recent immigrant with no Canadian experience to speak of.
May 17th 2003, 5:26 am
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Re: Graduate study in canada
Thanks for the valueable info guys..
Originally posted by Goldfinger
"D. Monk" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I would stop short of saying IT is really not a good field to be in.
> It's a risky industry that places very little value on past
> experience. The knowledge base is a moving target. Why anyone would
> spend years learning the formal basics of a profession only to have to
> re-learn it in less than five years is beyond me.
I agree with what you say. I am retraining myself to get a CGA designation
as we speak and hope that'll open more doors for me in the future. Graduate
study in IT is not as valuable as in other disciplines because everything
will be out dated in 2.5 hours. At least with accounting, you get paid more
with age.
"D. Monk" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I would stop short of saying IT is really not a good field to be in.
> It's a risky industry that places very little value on past
> experience. The knowledge base is a moving target. Why anyone would
> spend years learning the formal basics of a profession only to have to
> re-learn it in less than five years is beyond me.
I agree with what you say. I am retraining myself to get a CGA designation
as we speak and hope that'll open more doors for me in the future. Graduate
study in IT is not as valuable as in other disciplines because everything
will be out dated in 2.5 hours. At least with accounting, you get paid more
with age.
May 17th 2003, 5:13 pm
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Re: Graduate study in canada
who talk to you that windsor is the best cs grad school? where you from?
the best cs school in canada is waterloo and u of t! windsor is just
4 -tier university that can't even compared with carleton and ottawa!
"NorthernLigths25" ?????
news:[email protected]...
> Many say U of Windsor is the best CS grad school in Canada. York U would
not
> be a bad choice either though one of my friends there said there are lots
of
> space fro improvement. My experience was GRE score is not the determinin
> factor for admission, in schools in Canada or USA.
> It's the overall package of the applicant.
> >Subject: Re: Graduate study in canada
> >From: "abc" [email protected]
> >Date: 5/16/03 4:08 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
> >Message-id:
> >
> >the competition of getting into u of t computer grad school is very
tough, i
> >think you need at least 80 percent!
> >
> >
> >"dudewheresmycar" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
> >> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
> >>
> >> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
> >> University of toronto for comp sci program.
> >>
> >> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
> >> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
> >>
> >> Thanks in Advance
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
the best cs school in canada is waterloo and u of t! windsor is just
4 -tier university that can't even compared with carleton and ottawa!
"NorthernLigths25" ?????
news:[email protected]...
> Many say U of Windsor is the best CS grad school in Canada. York U would
not
> be a bad choice either though one of my friends there said there are lots
of
> space fro improvement. My experience was GRE score is not the determinin
> factor for admission, in schools in Canada or USA.
> It's the overall package of the applicant.
> >Subject: Re: Graduate study in canada
> >From: "abc" [email protected]
> >Date: 5/16/03 4:08 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
> >Message-id:
> >
> >the competition of getting into u of t computer grad school is very
tough, i
> >think you need at least 80 percent!
> >
> >
> >"dudewheresmycar" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
> >news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
> >> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
> >>
> >> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
> >> University of toronto for comp sci program.
> >>
> >> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
> >> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
> >>
> >> Thanks in Advance
> >>
> >> --
> >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
May 17th 2003, 5:14 pm
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Re: Graduate study in canada
my friend got into mcmaster mba and said that the program is quite good!
you better consider it!
"Golmal" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
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> An MBA might be worth considering.
> Golmal
> Originally posted by dudewheresmycar
> > Hi
> >
> > I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
> > decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
> >
> > I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
> > University of toronto for comp sci program.
> >
> > My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
> > university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
> >
> Thanks in Advance
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
you better consider it!
"Golmal" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
news:[email protected]...
> An MBA might be worth considering.
> Golmal
> Originally posted by dudewheresmycar
> > Hi
> >
> > I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
> > decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
> >
> > I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
> > University of toronto for comp sci program.
> >
> > My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
> > university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
> >
> Thanks in Advance
> --
> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
May 17th 2003, 5:33 pm
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Opinions, everybody got one.....In my opinion u of windsor is the best.
>Subject: Re: Graduate study in canada
>From: "abc" [email protected]
>Date: 5/17/03 2:13 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>who talk to you that windsor is the best cs grad school? where you from?
>the best cs school in canada is waterloo and u of t! windsor is just
>4 -tier university that can't even compared with carleton and ottawa!
>"NorthernLigths25" ?????
>news:[email protected]...
>> Many say U of Windsor is the best CS grad school in Canada. York U would
>not
>> be a bad choice either though one of my friends there said there are lots
>of
>> space fro improvement. My experience was GRE score is not the determinin
>> factor for admission, in schools in Canada or USA.
>> It's the overall package of the applicant.
>> >Subject: Re: Graduate study in canada
>> >From: "abc" [email protected]
>> >Date: 5/16/03 4:08 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>> >Message-id:
>> >
>> >the competition of getting into u of t computer grad school is very
>tough, i
>> >think you need at least 80 percent!
>> >
>> >
>> >"dudewheresmycar" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
>> >> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
>> >>
>> >> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
>> >> University of toronto for comp sci program.
>> >>
>> >> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
>> >> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in Advance
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>Subject: Re: Graduate study in canada
>From: "abc" [email protected]
>Date: 5/17/03 2:13 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>Message-id:
>who talk to you that windsor is the best cs grad school? where you from?
>the best cs school in canada is waterloo and u of t! windsor is just
>4 -tier university that can't even compared with carleton and ottawa!
>"NorthernLigths25" ?????
>news:[email protected]...
>> Many say U of Windsor is the best CS grad school in Canada. York U would
>not
>> be a bad choice either though one of my friends there said there are lots
>of
>> space fro improvement. My experience was GRE score is not the determinin
>> factor for admission, in schools in Canada or USA.
>> It's the overall package of the applicant.
>> >Subject: Re: Graduate study in canada
>> >From: "abc" [email protected]
>> >Date: 5/16/03 4:08 PM Atlantic Daylight Time
>> >Message-id:
>> >
>> >the competition of getting into u of t computer grad school is very
>tough, i
>> >think you need at least 80 percent!
>> >
>> >
>> >"dudewheresmycar" ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó
>> >news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I will be landing in canada soon and since the job market sucks i have
>> >> decided to try for graduate schools in canada.
>> >>
>> >> I was wondering what are my chances of getting aid in schools like
>> >> University of toronto for comp sci program.
>> >>
>> >> My gre score is 1970 and have equivalent of 3 gpa (60 %) from an
>> >> university in india and have around 61/2 years work ex in IT.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in Advance
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
May 18th 2003, 12:38 am
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Does anybody know how U of Ottawa stands as far as ranking - is it recognised at all say for ECommerce.
Thanks.
Thanks.
May 18th 2003, 2:32 am
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Dude stop going backwards .. Ecommerce needs no skill other than web development...
Get a degree in IT or CS and you will have more than enough knowledge for doing ecommerce development that is if you manage to find a job...
In my honest opinion and vast IT experience i definitly think what is valued is not your programming ablities but what functional experience you have & very frankly ecommerce is too easy to be a functional expert in ..
Try some thing like IT with wireless/finance/medical/accounting etc..
Get a degree in IT or CS and you will have more than enough knowledge for doing ecommerce development that is if you manage to find a job...
In my honest opinion and vast IT experience i definitly think what is valued is not your programming ablities but what functional experience you have & very frankly ecommerce is too easy to be a functional expert in ..
Try some thing like IT with wireless/finance/medical/accounting etc..
Originally posted by Applicant
Does anybody know how U of Ottawa stands as far as ranking - is it recognised at all say for ECommerce.
Thanks.
Does anybody know how U of Ottawa stands as far as ranking - is it recognised at all say for ECommerce.
Thanks.
Last edited by dudewheresmycar; May 18th 2003 at 2:37 am.
May 18th 2003, 2:34 am
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Re: Graduate study in canada
Canadian experience does not mean a whole lot in my opionion...
Management is all about communication and if a person has good experience & excellent communication ... such a person should be able to use his MBA degree regard less of his being a immigrant..
Management is all about communication and if a person has good experience & excellent communication ... such a person should be able to use his MBA degree regard less of his being a immigrant..
Originally posted by Goldfinger
"Golmal" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> An MBA might be worth considering.
Not if you are an immigrant. It's very hard to get a management position
job if you are a recent immigrant with no Canadian experience to speak of.
"Golmal" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> An MBA might be worth considering.
Not if you are an immigrant. It's very hard to get a management position
job if you are a recent immigrant with no Canadian experience to speak of.
May 18th 2003, 4:36 am
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Re: Graduate study in canada
The best tech school in Canada is without a doubt U of Waterloo - more
so for CS and elec engg. US govt.'s NSA, Microsoft, many US defense
companies recruit as many grads from Waterloo, as they do from MIT or
Caltech - and that gives you a good idea about its calibre. McGill ,
Simon Fraser Univ (Vancouver) and U of Calgary would also rate very
highly and as good as any, if not better than any US Ivy league
schools in engineering/tech.
IMO while Canadian schools are very good at basic sciences and
engineering - they seem to lag in business & management skills
curriculum. If you want a good business degree my suggestion would be
to go to a toprated US school, but for core engineering or sciences
any Canadian university will give you a very good bang for your buck.
A good place to start would be the Macleans University rankings which
is a fairly comphrehensive and accurate ranking mechanism (sometimes
controversial) http://www.macleans.ca.
Good luck!
so for CS and elec engg. US govt.'s NSA, Microsoft, many US defense
companies recruit as many grads from Waterloo, as they do from MIT or
Caltech - and that gives you a good idea about its calibre. McGill ,
Simon Fraser Univ (Vancouver) and U of Calgary would also rate very
highly and as good as any, if not better than any US Ivy league
schools in engineering/tech.
IMO while Canadian schools are very good at basic sciences and
engineering - they seem to lag in business & management skills
curriculum. If you want a good business degree my suggestion would be
to go to a toprated US school, but for core engineering or sciences
any Canadian university will give you a very good bang for your buck.
A good place to start would be the Macleans University rankings which
is a fairly comphrehensive and accurate ranking mechanism (sometimes
controversial) http://www.macleans.ca.
Good luck!