Citizenship and number of Days
Mar 1st 2004, 12:37 am
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Citizenship and number of Days
Hi ,
I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be counted
as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply right
after august when my time comes.
Regards,
Kartik
I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be counted
as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply right
after august when my time comes.
Regards,
Kartik
Mar 1st 2004, 1:00 am
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Re: Citizenship and number of Days
Applying before accumulating full 1,095 days or residency in Canada will
cause longer processing time as you will be called for hearing by the
citizenship judge. It is not worth it as it usually prolongs process by
several months - wait until you accumulated 1,095 days before applying. Days
you mention won't count as presence in Canada. "Your time comes" once you
accumulate 1,095 days of presence, not just 3 years from landing as many
often hope.
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"Kartik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi ,
> I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
> One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
> company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be
counted
> as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
> sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
> Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
> hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply
right
> after august when my time comes.
> Regards,
> Kartik
cause longer processing time as you will be called for hearing by the
citizenship judge. It is not worth it as it usually prolongs process by
several months - wait until you accumulated 1,095 days before applying. Days
you mention won't count as presence in Canada. "Your time comes" once you
accumulate 1,095 days of presence, not just 3 years from landing as many
often hope.
--
../..
Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________
"Kartik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi ,
> I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
> One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
> company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be
counted
> as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
> sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
> Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
> hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply
right
> after august when my time comes.
> Regards,
> Kartik
Mar 1st 2004, 12:36 pm
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Re: Citizenship and number of Days
As AM states you must accumulate 1095 days of residence in Canada in the 4
years preceding the application. That being said there are instances where
persons such as your self may never accumulate 1095 in the 4 preceding
years. cases like this are exceptions and usually involve a intervew with a
judge which will result in delays of at least 6 months in Toronto. In my
expereince persons who are absent more than 90 days in past 3 years are
interviewed. Howver if your crcumstances are as described my expereince is
that you would be granted citizenship.
Jim metcalfe
"Kartik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi ,
> I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
> One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
> company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be
counted
> as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
> sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
> Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
> hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply
right
> after august when my time comes.
> Regards,
> Kartik
years preceding the application. That being said there are instances where
persons such as your self may never accumulate 1095 in the 4 preceding
years. cases like this are exceptions and usually involve a intervew with a
judge which will result in delays of at least 6 months in Toronto. In my
expereince persons who are absent more than 90 days in past 3 years are
interviewed. Howver if your crcumstances are as described my expereince is
that you would be granted citizenship.
Jim metcalfe
"Kartik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi ,
> I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
> One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
> company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be
counted
> as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
> sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
> Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
> hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply
right
> after august when my time comes.
> Regards,
> Kartik
Mar 1st 2004, 5:36 pm
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Re: Citizenship and number of Days
in a recent article, Kartik ([email protected]) said:
> Hi ,
> I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
> One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
> company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be counted
> as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
> sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
> Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
> hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply right
> after august when my time comes.
As has been written by two others, your days outside of Canada won't
count for Citizenship purposes. My suggestion however would be that rather
than applying 'when your time comes' (that's 1095 days of time, not 3
years), wait for another 6 months or so, to be sure. You've waited this
long, it won't hurt to wait a little longer.
Good luck
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> Hi ,
> I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
> One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
> company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be counted
> as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
> sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
> Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
> hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply right
> after august when my time comes.
As has been written by two others, your days outside of Canada won't
count for Citizenship purposes. My suggestion however would be that rather
than applying 'when your time comes' (that's 1095 days of time, not 3
years), wait for another 6 months or so, to be sure. You've waited this
long, it won't hurt to wait a little longer.
Good luck
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Mar 1st 2004, 7:13 pm
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Re: Citizenship and number of Days
Do they count each single day spent outside Canada (or in Canada) for the
mandatory period for the citizenship?
I thought that small vacations outside Canada are not counted. Do you have to be
in Canada for the full 1095 days for the citizenship application?
mandatory period for the citizenship?
I thought that small vacations outside Canada are not counted. Do you have to be
in Canada for the full 1095 days for the citizenship application?
Mar 1st 2004, 8:58 pm
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> In my expereince persons who are absent more than 90 days in past 3 years are
> interviewed.
I was under the impression that an interview was for people with less than
1095 days in last 4 years. Is an interview also likely for
people absent more than 90 days at the beginning of the 4 year period ?
I landed approximately 3 years 11 months ago, then after opening a bank
account/getting a SIN I went back to wind up things in the US (absence > 90
days). I then moved permanently to Canada 3.5 years ago and have been
physically resident here ever since. I would think this is somewhat typical
for most new immigrants.
Would a case like this involve an interview ?
"James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<w%[email protected]> ...
> As AM states you must accumulate 1095 days of residence in Canada in the 4
> years preceding the application. That being said there are instances where
> persons such as your self may never accumulate 1095 in the 4 preceding
> years. cases like this are exceptions and usually involve a intervew with a
> judge which will result in delays of at least 6 months in Toronto. In my
> expereince persons who are absent more than 90 days in past 3 years are
> interviewed. Howver if your crcumstances are as described my expereince is
> that you would be granted citizenship.
>
> Jim metcalfe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Kartik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi ,
> > I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
> > One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
> > company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be
> counted
> > as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
> > sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
> > Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
> > hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply
> right
> > after august when my time comes.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kartik
> >
> >
> interviewed.
I was under the impression that an interview was for people with less than
1095 days in last 4 years. Is an interview also likely for
people absent more than 90 days at the beginning of the 4 year period ?
I landed approximately 3 years 11 months ago, then after opening a bank
account/getting a SIN I went back to wind up things in the US (absence > 90
days). I then moved permanently to Canada 3.5 years ago and have been
physically resident here ever since. I would think this is somewhat typical
for most new immigrants.
Would a case like this involve an interview ?
"James Metcalfe" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<w%[email protected]> ...
> As AM states you must accumulate 1095 days of residence in Canada in the 4
> years preceding the application. That being said there are instances where
> persons such as your self may never accumulate 1095 in the 4 preceding
> years. cases like this are exceptions and usually involve a intervew with a
> judge which will result in delays of at least 6 months in Toronto. In my
> expereince persons who are absent more than 90 days in past 3 years are
> interviewed. Howver if your crcumstances are as described my expereince is
> that you would be granted citizenship.
>
> Jim metcalfe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Kartik" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi ,
> > I would be applying for Canadian Citizenship later this year,
> > One area that concerns me is that I have been travelling to the US on
> > company business on a regular basis(Canadian Company). Would this be
> counted
> > as not being resident in Canada, these have been primarily for couple days
> > sometimes a week at the most. I have property and assets in Canada and my
> > Canadian address is the principal residence, since I have only stayed in
> > hotels in the US. Would I have to wait longer to apply or can I apply
> right
> > after august when my time comes.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kartik
> >
> >
Mar 2nd 2004, 2:23 am
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in a recent article, gal ([email protected]) said:
> Do they count each single day spent outside Canada (or in Canada) for the
> mandatory period for the citizenship?
> I thought that small vacations outside Canada are not counted. Do you have to
> be
> in Canada for the full 1095 days for the citizenship application?
You will find nowhere in the application or other documentation where it
says something along the lines of 1095 days (not including vacation).
Therefore, each and every day is counted. If you're to the point where you
have to get down to the specifics of small vacations, then you may as well
wait until you're past that point.
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> Do they count each single day spent outside Canada (or in Canada) for the
> mandatory period for the citizenship?
> I thought that small vacations outside Canada are not counted. Do you have to
> be
> in Canada for the full 1095 days for the citizenship application?
You will find nowhere in the application or other documentation where it
says something along the lines of 1095 days (not including vacation).
Therefore, each and every day is counted. If you're to the point where you
have to get down to the specifics of small vacations, then you may as well
wait until you're past that point.
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Mar 2nd 2004, 9:50 am
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Why should he wait 6 months after the 1095 day requirement is met?
A few days or weeks maybe, just to be safe that he has not
over-estimated the days, but 6 months seems overkill.
Jeremy
http://www.iamnotamerican.com wrote:
>
> As has been written by two others, your days outside of Canada won't
> count for Citizenship purposes. My suggestion however would be that rather
> than applying 'when your time comes' (that's 1095 days of time, not 3
> years), wait for another 6 months or so, to be sure. You've waited this
> long, it won't hurt to wait a little longer.
>
> Good luck
>
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A few days or weeks maybe, just to be safe that he has not
over-estimated the days, but 6 months seems overkill.
Jeremy
http://www.iamnotamerican.com wrote:
>
> As has been written by two others, your days outside of Canada won't
> count for Citizenship purposes. My suggestion however would be that rather
> than applying 'when your time comes' (that's 1095 days of time, not 3
> years), wait for another 6 months or so, to be sure. You've waited this
> long, it won't hurt to wait a little longer.
>
> Good luck
>
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Mar 2nd 2004, 3:15 pm
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in a recent article, JAJ ([email protected]) said:
> Why should he wait 6 months after the 1095 day requirement is met?
> A few days or weeks maybe, just to be safe that he has not
> over-estimated the days, but 6 months seems overkill.
Why not? You've waited 3 years...another 6 months isn't gonna kill ya.
You don't HAVE to get your citizenship as soon as possible.
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> Why should he wait 6 months after the 1095 day requirement is met?
> A few days or weeks maybe, just to be safe that he has not
> over-estimated the days, but 6 months seems overkill.
Why not? You've waited 3 years...another 6 months isn't gonna kill ya.
You don't HAVE to get your citizenship as soon as possible.
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Mar 2nd 2004, 3:54 pm
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"http://www.iamnotamerican.com" <newsgroup@iam_not_american.com> wrote in
>> Why should he wait 6 months after the 1095 day requirement is met?
>> A few days or weeks maybe, just to be safe that he has not
>> over-estimated the days, but 6 months seems overkill.
> Why not? You've waited 3 years...another 6 months isn't gonna kill
> ya. You don't HAVE to get your citizenship as soon as possible.
Nonsense. As usual you are giving very bad advice. Why should anybody waste
6 months time for nothing? By your logic, if you are paying $500 for a bike
why not add up another $50? Afterall you are already paying $500, another
$50 isn't gonna kill you.
Anybody, who is interested in getting citizenship, should calculate his time
accurately and should apply for citizenship as soon as he is eligible. If in
doubt, then he should only compensate number of days he guesstimates. That
way he can start getting benefits of being Canadian citizen earlier.
--
>> Why should he wait 6 months after the 1095 day requirement is met?
>> A few days or weeks maybe, just to be safe that he has not
>> over-estimated the days, but 6 months seems overkill.
> Why not? You've waited 3 years...another 6 months isn't gonna kill
> ya. You don't HAVE to get your citizenship as soon as possible.
Nonsense. As usual you are giving very bad advice. Why should anybody waste
6 months time for nothing? By your logic, if you are paying $500 for a bike
why not add up another $50? Afterall you are already paying $500, another
$50 isn't gonna kill you.
Anybody, who is interested in getting citizenship, should calculate his time
accurately and should apply for citizenship as soon as he is eligible. If in
doubt, then he should only compensate number of days he guesstimates. That
way he can start getting benefits of being Canadian citizen earlier.
--
Mar 2nd 2004, 5:12 pm
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in a recent article, Ravi ([email protected]) said:
> Nonsense. As usual you are giving very bad advice.
This coming from you is a compliment. Thank you.
> Why should anybody waste 6 months time for nothing?
Um...6 months was a general amount and is certainly not a hard and fast
rule. 6 months...3 months...3 years...why rush?
> By your logic, if you are paying $500 for a bike
> why not add up another $50? Afterall you are already paying $500, another
> $50 isn't gonna kill you.
Actually, it would be more along the lines of "you've waited 20 years
for a bike, why not wait until after the winter so you can really enjoy
riding around in the spring sunshine?" Also using that same example, paying
an extra $50 for the bike may result in you getting a better bike that
doesn't need as many repairs, because the less expensive bike was a
discontinued model.
> Anybody, who is interested in getting citizenship, should calculate his time
> accurately and should apply for citizenship as soon as he is eligible.
...and if you miscalculate (remember, noone intentionally calculates
poorly, but mistakes happen), the delays and possible added expense result
in you waiting longer than you would have if you had delayed your
application in the first place.
> If in
> doubt, then he should only compensate number of days he guesstimates. That
> way he can start getting benefits of being Canadian citizen earlier.
...or later, if that guesstimate is off by an unacceptable amount. You
can do it your way, Ravi. I waited for my citizenship and guess what...I
didn't have ANY problems at all, yet someone at my oath ceremony took almost
twice as long to complete the same process. Why? Because, I found out, he
did what you suggest...applied AS SOON AS HE THOUGHT HE WAS ELIGIBLE, but it
turned out he wasn't.
If he had waited 6 months, he would have STILL got his citizenship about
3 months earlier than he eventually did. His is why I used '6 months' for
discussion purposes.
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> Nonsense. As usual you are giving very bad advice.
This coming from you is a compliment. Thank you.
> Why should anybody waste 6 months time for nothing?
Um...6 months was a general amount and is certainly not a hard and fast
rule. 6 months...3 months...3 years...why rush?
> By your logic, if you are paying $500 for a bike
> why not add up another $50? Afterall you are already paying $500, another
> $50 isn't gonna kill you.
Actually, it would be more along the lines of "you've waited 20 years
for a bike, why not wait until after the winter so you can really enjoy
riding around in the spring sunshine?" Also using that same example, paying
an extra $50 for the bike may result in you getting a better bike that
doesn't need as many repairs, because the less expensive bike was a
discontinued model.
> Anybody, who is interested in getting citizenship, should calculate his time
> accurately and should apply for citizenship as soon as he is eligible.
...and if you miscalculate (remember, noone intentionally calculates
poorly, but mistakes happen), the delays and possible added expense result
in you waiting longer than you would have if you had delayed your
application in the first place.
> If in
> doubt, then he should only compensate number of days he guesstimates. That
> way he can start getting benefits of being Canadian citizen earlier.
...or later, if that guesstimate is off by an unacceptable amount. You
can do it your way, Ravi. I waited for my citizenship and guess what...I
didn't have ANY problems at all, yet someone at my oath ceremony took almost
twice as long to complete the same process. Why? Because, I found out, he
did what you suggest...applied AS SOON AS HE THOUGHT HE WAS ELIGIBLE, but it
turned out he wasn't.
If he had waited 6 months, he would have STILL got his citizenship about
3 months earlier than he eventually did. His is why I used '6 months' for
discussion purposes.
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Mar 2nd 2004, 6:24 pm
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"http://www.iamnotamerican.com" <newsgroup@iam_not_american.com> wrote in
>> By your logic, if you are paying $500 for a bike
>> why not add up another $50? Afterall you are already paying $500, another
>> $50 isn't gonna kill you.
> Actually, it would be more along the lines of "you've waited 20 years
> for a bike, why not wait until after the winter so you can really enjoy
> riding around in the spring sunshine?" Also using that same example,
> paying an extra $50 for the bike may result in you getting a better bike
> that doesn't need as many repairs, because the less expensive bike was a
> discontinued model.
Again, you're blabbering nonsense. You don't get "upgraded or better
citizenship" for waiting 6 months extra. A citizenship is a citizenship. I
fail to understand what you'll gain if you get it in winter or summer.
>> Anybody, who is interested in getting citizenship, should calculate his
>> time accurately and should apply for citizenship as soon as he is
>> eligible.
> ...and if you miscalculate (remember, noone intentionally calculates
> poorly, but mistakes happen), the delays and possible added expense result
> in you waiting longer than you would have if you had delayed your
> application in the first place.
The keyword is miscalculate. Couple of days are reasonable. But come on,
miscalculation of 6 months?? If you are stupid enough to miscalculate your
absence from Canada by that margin, then yeah you should pay for it.
>> If in
>> doubt, then he should only compensate number of days he guesstimates.
>> That way he can start getting benefits of being Canadian citizen earlier.
> ...or later, if that guesstimate is off by an unacceptable amount.
> You can do it your way, Ravi. I waited for my citizenship and guess
> what...I didn't have ANY problems at all, yet someone at my oath ceremony
> took almost twice as long to complete the same process. Why? Because, I
> found out, he did what you suggest...applied AS SOON AS HE THOUGHT HE WAS
> ELIGIBLE, but it turned out he wasn't.
Buddy, obviously you are not the sharpest example of immigrants. If you've
waited 6 months extra just to be sure that you had enough days in Canada
then that speaks of your intelligence. All my friends and people that I know
of (couple of dozens), have applied for citizenship the day they were
eligible (some have applied 1 or 2 days later). None of them had problem.
People usually having problem are those that thought they can apply before
1095 days, or they lied thinking that CIC won't be able to find out.
> If he had waited 6 months, he would have STILL got his citizenship
> about 3 months earlier than he eventually did. His is why I used '6
> months' for discussion purposes.
Yeah, if you are stupid enough not to be able to count properly, then you
better wait for ten years just to be sure.
--
>> By your logic, if you are paying $500 for a bike
>> why not add up another $50? Afterall you are already paying $500, another
>> $50 isn't gonna kill you.
> Actually, it would be more along the lines of "you've waited 20 years
> for a bike, why not wait until after the winter so you can really enjoy
> riding around in the spring sunshine?" Also using that same example,
> paying an extra $50 for the bike may result in you getting a better bike
> that doesn't need as many repairs, because the less expensive bike was a
> discontinued model.
Again, you're blabbering nonsense. You don't get "upgraded or better
citizenship" for waiting 6 months extra. A citizenship is a citizenship. I
fail to understand what you'll gain if you get it in winter or summer.
>> Anybody, who is interested in getting citizenship, should calculate his
>> time accurately and should apply for citizenship as soon as he is
>> eligible.
> ...and if you miscalculate (remember, noone intentionally calculates
> poorly, but mistakes happen), the delays and possible added expense result
> in you waiting longer than you would have if you had delayed your
> application in the first place.
The keyword is miscalculate. Couple of days are reasonable. But come on,
miscalculation of 6 months?? If you are stupid enough to miscalculate your
absence from Canada by that margin, then yeah you should pay for it.
>> If in
>> doubt, then he should only compensate number of days he guesstimates.
>> That way he can start getting benefits of being Canadian citizen earlier.
> ...or later, if that guesstimate is off by an unacceptable amount.
> You can do it your way, Ravi. I waited for my citizenship and guess
> what...I didn't have ANY problems at all, yet someone at my oath ceremony
> took almost twice as long to complete the same process. Why? Because, I
> found out, he did what you suggest...applied AS SOON AS HE THOUGHT HE WAS
> ELIGIBLE, but it turned out he wasn't.
Buddy, obviously you are not the sharpest example of immigrants. If you've
waited 6 months extra just to be sure that you had enough days in Canada
then that speaks of your intelligence. All my friends and people that I know
of (couple of dozens), have applied for citizenship the day they were
eligible (some have applied 1 or 2 days later). None of them had problem.
People usually having problem are those that thought they can apply before
1095 days, or they lied thinking that CIC won't be able to find out.
> If he had waited 6 months, he would have STILL got his citizenship
> about 3 months earlier than he eventually did. His is why I used '6
> months' for discussion purposes.
Yeah, if you are stupid enough not to be able to count properly, then you
better wait for ten years just to be sure.
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Mar 2nd 2004, 6:54 pm
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Most people applying for citizenship want it as soon as possible, and
no-one is going to wait 6 months just for the fun of it.
Especially with a 12 month processing time.
Jeremy
http://www.iamnotamerican.com wrote:
> in a recent article, JAJ ([email protected]) said:
>
>
>>Why should he wait 6 months after the 1095 day requirement is met?
>>A few days or weeks maybe, just to be safe that he has not
>>over-estimated the days, but 6 months seems overkill.
>
>
> Why not? You've waited 3 years...another 6 months isn't gonna kill ya.
> You don't HAVE to get your citizenship as soon as possible.
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no-one is going to wait 6 months just for the fun of it.
Especially with a 12 month processing time.
Jeremy
http://www.iamnotamerican.com wrote:
> in a recent article, JAJ ([email protected]) said:
>
>
>>Why should he wait 6 months after the 1095 day requirement is met?
>>A few days or weeks maybe, just to be safe that he has not
>>over-estimated the days, but 6 months seems overkill.
>
>
> Why not? You've waited 3 years...another 6 months isn't gonna kill ya.
> You don't HAVE to get your citizenship as soon as possible.
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Mar 2nd 2004, 9:59 pm
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Re: Citizenship and number of Days
in a recent article, Ravi ([email protected]) said:
> Again, you're blabbering nonsense. You don't get "upgraded or better
> citizenship" for waiting 6 months extra. A citizenship is a citizenship. I
> fail to understand what you'll gain if you get it in winter or summer.
Tsk, tsk, tsk...YOU raised the example of paying an extra $50 for a
bike, so I went with YOUR analogy. Anyone with half a brain knows there's
only one class of citizenship.
However, since you used the bike analogy, I was merely showing how
holding off to purchase the bike or even paying a little extra can save you
bother - and delays - down the track. Once again, the bike thing was YOUR
analogy. Don't criticise me now just because you don't like that same
analogy. If you want to use a Citizenship analogy, great. If you want to
use a bike analogy, great. But don't misquote me or quote me out of context
by MIXING two analogies, especially when it was YOU who introduced the
second one.
> The keyword is miscalculate. Couple of days are reasonable. But come on,
> miscalculation of 6 months??
Ah...I get it...you're focusing in the '6 months' term to try and get
your 'points' in this discussion. As I have already said (and, it seems,
you have conveniently missed that), the 6 months was just a loose time
frame. 1 month, 2 months...2 years...depending on your situation and
absences, waiting a little longer so you are totally sure you won't be
miscalculating is much better than having forced delays because you did
miscalculate.
> If you are stupid enough to miscalculate your
> absence from Canada by that margin, then yeah you should pay for it.
Well, if you're so insistent on applying at the very moment you're
eligible, maybe...but if you're not sure, then why not wait? After all,
you've waited three years...what's a little extra wait?
> Buddy, obviously you are not the sharpest example of immigrants. If you've
> waited 6 months extra just to be sure that you had enough days in Canada
> then that speaks of your intelligence.
Um...who said I waited 6 months? Oh, that's right...you're just looking
for cheap insult points.
> All my friends and people that I know
> of (couple of dozens), have applied for citizenship the day they were
> eligible (some have applied 1 or 2 days later). None of them had problem.
Good for them. Obviously they don't have any math problems, haven't
been outside the country or have kept close tabs on their absences. Not
everyone does...and that was what the original thread was about. Or did you
miss that?
> People usually having problem are those that thought they can apply before
> 1095 days, or they lied thinking that CIC won't be able to find out.
...or those who did a 'guesstimate' (your suggestion was to do just
that, remember?) but 'guesstimated' incorrectly.
>> If he had waited 6 months, he would have STILL got his citizenship
>> about 3 months earlier than he eventually did. His is why I used '6
>> months' for discussion purposes.
>
> Yeah, if you are stupid enough not to be able to count properly, then you
> better wait for ten years just to be sure.
Sorry to tell you this, but not all immigrants applying for citizenship
are stupid, or unable to count (though you apparently think they are). Some
just have a misunderstanding of requirements (such as in the original post
for this thread), hear something from a friend of a friend or do what you
endorse, and 'guesstimate' but 'guesstimate' incorrectly.
Since you haven't already done so, feel free to explain...in
detail...how my suggestion of waiting a little longer past your first
eligibility date (no matter how long you wait) to be sure that you haven't
miscalculated anything rather than applying for citizenship at the first
possible moment is a BAD thing.
I predict you won't be able to do that, but hey...it'll be interesting
to watch for. Have a great day and get off my back. You're not impressing
anyone.
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> Again, you're blabbering nonsense. You don't get "upgraded or better
> citizenship" for waiting 6 months extra. A citizenship is a citizenship. I
> fail to understand what you'll gain if you get it in winter or summer.
Tsk, tsk, tsk...YOU raised the example of paying an extra $50 for a
bike, so I went with YOUR analogy. Anyone with half a brain knows there's
only one class of citizenship.
However, since you used the bike analogy, I was merely showing how
holding off to purchase the bike or even paying a little extra can save you
bother - and delays - down the track. Once again, the bike thing was YOUR
analogy. Don't criticise me now just because you don't like that same
analogy. If you want to use a Citizenship analogy, great. If you want to
use a bike analogy, great. But don't misquote me or quote me out of context
by MIXING two analogies, especially when it was YOU who introduced the
second one.
> The keyword is miscalculate. Couple of days are reasonable. But come on,
> miscalculation of 6 months??
Ah...I get it...you're focusing in the '6 months' term to try and get
your 'points' in this discussion. As I have already said (and, it seems,
you have conveniently missed that), the 6 months was just a loose time
frame. 1 month, 2 months...2 years...depending on your situation and
absences, waiting a little longer so you are totally sure you won't be
miscalculating is much better than having forced delays because you did
miscalculate.
> If you are stupid enough to miscalculate your
> absence from Canada by that margin, then yeah you should pay for it.
Well, if you're so insistent on applying at the very moment you're
eligible, maybe...but if you're not sure, then why not wait? After all,
you've waited three years...what's a little extra wait?
> Buddy, obviously you are not the sharpest example of immigrants. If you've
> waited 6 months extra just to be sure that you had enough days in Canada
> then that speaks of your intelligence.
Um...who said I waited 6 months? Oh, that's right...you're just looking
for cheap insult points.
> All my friends and people that I know
> of (couple of dozens), have applied for citizenship the day they were
> eligible (some have applied 1 or 2 days later). None of them had problem.
Good for them. Obviously they don't have any math problems, haven't
been outside the country or have kept close tabs on their absences. Not
everyone does...and that was what the original thread was about. Or did you
miss that?
> People usually having problem are those that thought they can apply before
> 1095 days, or they lied thinking that CIC won't be able to find out.
...or those who did a 'guesstimate' (your suggestion was to do just
that, remember?) but 'guesstimated' incorrectly.
>> If he had waited 6 months, he would have STILL got his citizenship
>> about 3 months earlier than he eventually did. His is why I used '6
>> months' for discussion purposes.
>
> Yeah, if you are stupid enough not to be able to count properly, then you
> better wait for ten years just to be sure.
Sorry to tell you this, but not all immigrants applying for citizenship
are stupid, or unable to count (though you apparently think they are). Some
just have a misunderstanding of requirements (such as in the original post
for this thread), hear something from a friend of a friend or do what you
endorse, and 'guesstimate' but 'guesstimate' incorrectly.
Since you haven't already done so, feel free to explain...in
detail...how my suggestion of waiting a little longer past your first
eligibility date (no matter how long you wait) to be sure that you haven't
miscalculated anything rather than applying for citizenship at the first
possible moment is a BAD thing.
I predict you won't be able to do that, but hey...it'll be interesting
to watch for. Have a great day and get off my back. You're not impressing
anyone.
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