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Old Oct 19th 2018, 10:58 am
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Apologies for the long first post but I would like to get people’s thoughts on whether ours would be an easy application for us to do ourselves.

We recently met with a consultant that made the process look really complicated but with a guaranteed result. I feel incredibly uneasy using this consultant, not because of the costs but more for an ethical reason. There’s plenty here on the forums so I know I don’t need to go any further with this.

So, here goes, listed below is as much info as I think may be relevant at this time.

To move to Canada we would need to go via the education route for me, we don’t have enough points to apply any other way. I’m early 40s and my husband is late 40s, we have 2 children with one at school age and the other would be in childcare. We are hoping my husband could work once we are out there. We have enough enough in savings to support us for 2 years. We have no recognised qualifications but my husband has a job that should be well sort after.

Things to consider in our application:

My husband has been married before with a 17 year old that lives with his mother.

No medical conditions or criminal conditions.

I lived abroad for a year in 99/00 on a travelling visa.

Reading all this, do you think it’s possible for me to do all the paperwork and for us move to Canada. At the moment it feels all very overwhelming and I’m struggling to get my head around us being able to do this.

Thanks for reading my essay, any feedback greatly received.
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Hi, welcome to BE.

A study permit application is one of the easiest there is, there's barely even any paperwork! And no complicated circumstances either, so absolutely no need to use a consultant from what you've said.

There are some criteria to meet to be eligible for a study permit (i.e. making sure your course qualifies and is at a Designated Learning Institution, having enough proof of funds etc), but it's a very simple application once you've confirmed you do meet the criteria. Your husband will be eligible for an open work permit for the same duration as your study permit, which he can just get at the airport when he arrives, there's not even any need to fill in forms for that.

I really can't see why you'd need to use a consultant personally. Just bear in mind that you are only applying for a temporary visa, there is no automatic route to PR from a study permit, so if you did want to stay permanently I would recommend you look in to that before you go to ensure you will be able to stay if you wish.

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Originally Posted by Rabbithole
We recently met with a consultant that made the process look really complicated but with a guaranteed result.


Hello and welcome
In the bold bit, did the consultant say they guaranteed a result, ie; you would defiantly get a visa / permit? I'm asking as I believe I'm correct in saying that this simply is not true. They don't make the decision on the application, and thus cannot give a definite yes / no.
Please don't think that this means you would not get the permit / visa, it's just a comment on what consultants and such say.
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Thanks christmasoompa, very reassuring

with regards to the gaurenteed entry, it was
more along the lines of “if all the information is correct I see absolutely no reason why you won’t be able to go”
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Just bear in mind that you are only applying for a temporary visa, there is no automatic route to PR from a study permit, so if you did want to stay permanently I would recommend you look in to that before you go to ensure you will be able to stay if you wish.

HTH.[/QUOTE]

thanks for your response, with regards to your response, we would like to stay permanently, can you recommend avenues for us to investigate to ensure that this is possible if we wish. This is the bit where I’m thinking a consulatant would be helpful.
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Originally Posted by Rabbithole
thanks for your response, with regards to your response, we would like to stay permanently, can you recommend avenues for us to investigate to ensure that this is possible if we wish. This is the bit where I’m thinking a consulatant would be helpful.
No need to use a consultant for that at all. You've found BE now! Although if you do decide to check your eligibility, make sure you don't get charged for any, any decent consultant will do that for free.

What are you scoring on the CRS now? You've said it's not enough due to age but how short are you on points?

Best place to start is the eligibility test on the CIC website - https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...nada-tool.html. If you take it as if you've lived in Canada (and hubby has worked there) for a year or more, then see what it comes back with.

Which province are you heading to? Another option is to look at their PNP programs if you wouldn't be eligible for Express Entry.
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And just another thought, if your husband has a job that's sought after, is there any reason he can't look at a job offer and Temp Work Permit instead of you going on a study permit? It would just save you a small fortune in international tuition rates! What does he do?
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
Best place to start is the eligibility test on the CIC website - If you take it as if you've lived in Canada (and hubby has worked there) for a year or more, then see what it comes back with.
This is really great advice, thank you so much and yes, I’m so thankful to have found BE!

we wouldn’t be able to take the PNP route sadly as we are not skilled workers. I’m more than happy to go back to studying if I’m honest. The area we’re looking at is Ontario, my husband is head of international sales, specialising in exports and the discount sector. It’s a niche market but with loads of crossover skills, we don’t think he’ll have problems finding work once out there but maybe struggle to find something whilst based in the UK.
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Your husband is a skilled worker from what you’ve said? Remember any job in Skill Level A, O or B on the NOC matrix counts as skilled, anything from an admin assistant to a surgeon.
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Default Re: Can we really do this. Overwhelmed newbie with info overload.

Originally Posted by Rabbithole
Apologies for the long first post but I would like to get people’s thoughts on whether ours would be an easy application for us to do ourselves.

We recently met with a consultant that made the process look really complicated but with a guaranteed result. I feel incredibly uneasy using this consultant, not because of the costs but more for an ethical reason. There’s plenty here on the forums so I know I don’t need to go any further with this.

So, here goes, listed below is as much info as I think may be relevant at this time.

To move to Canada we would need to go via the education route for me, we don’t have enough points to apply any other way. I’m early 40s and my husband is late 40s, we have 2 children with one at school age and the other would be in childcare. We are hoping my husband could work once we are out there. We have enough enough in savings to support us for 2 years. We have no recognised qualifications but my husband has a job that should be well sort after.

Things to consider in our application:

My husband has been married before with a 17 year old that lives with his mother.

No medical conditions or criminal conditions.

I lived abroad for a year in 99/00 on a travelling visa.

Reading all this, do you think it’s possible for me to do all the paperwork and for us move to Canada. At the moment it feels all very overwhelming and I’m struggling to get my head around us being able to do this.

Thanks for reading my essay, any feedback greatly received.
Im sorry to say but ALL consultants will make the immigration process, seem extensive and complicated, as they want your money. They CANNOT guarantee you anything either. The process is set by the Canadian government, so wether you are applying yourself or using an agency, everyone is in the same boat. You are best ensuring you have all the required information at hand when you start the process yourself.
Good luck.
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You are best ensuring you have all the required information at hand when you start the process yourself.
Good luck.
thank you for your reply, is there anyway we can find out a list of “required information” now. The college that I’ve applied to doesn’t issue places until February so we have a few months to get organised and before we can officially do anything.

Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Rabbithole


thank you for your reply, is there anyway we can find out a list of “required information” now. The college that I’ve applied to doesn’t issue places until February so we have a few months to get organised and before we can officially do anything.

Thanks again.
This should give you an idea of what you need.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...de-canada.html

Was the consultant that you met with Brazalot by any chance? I only ask because I attended one of their sessions recently to enquire about moving companies and I did notice they were marketing the student route there.

As long as your records are clean then you shouldn't need any representation though. This forum and the official websites should be sufficient.
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This should give you an idea of what you need.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...de-canada.html

Was the consultant that you met with Brazalot by any chance? I only ask because I attended one of their sessions recently to enquire about moving companies and I did notice they were marketing the student route there.

As long as your records are clean then you shouldn't need any representation though. This forum and the official websites should be sufficient.
thanks for the link, it’s amazing what you can find out when you actually start doing it yourself and asking people that have nothing to gain personally or financially, God bless the people of BE! I registered with CIC today and have started to understand the process a lot more. I think it was because it was made to look really really complicated that I panicked.

Yes you are correct in your thinking, as mentioned before, it’s not so much the money, I just can’t get my head in the right place ethically, my moral compass goes nuts when I think about using them.
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Originally Posted by Rabbithole


thanks for the link, it’s amazing what you can find out when you actually start doing it yourself and asking people that have nothing to gain personally or financially, God bless the people of BE! I registered with CIC today and have started to understand the process a lot more. I think it was because it was made to look really really complicated that I panicked.

Yes you are correct in your thinking, as mentioned before, it’s not so much the money, I just can’t get my head in the right place ethically, my moral compass goes nuts when I think about using them.
You're very welcome and like others in this thread have so rightly pointed out, you don't need to use their representation services.

The application for students is fairly simple especially for a British national. Canada wants international students and has been courting them from the likes of the US, the UK and Australia for years. As long as you can prove your course is on the whitelist, is legitimate and you have the funds to pay for it then that's the main thing.

The only other thing to be concerned with is this.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...pplicants.html

Remember that student status is only temporary so be prepared to show some remaining ties to the UK in case you're asked to do so.
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Great link, thank you so much for this.
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