Fanta333

Greetings:

I received my PR and should be landing in Canada from the US towards the end of
March. I then plan to travel to India to get married to my fiance on May 15. My
question is, will I be immediately able to sponsor her to bring her to Canada?
I have over $50,000 in my bank account and should not have any problem
supporting her till either of us find employment.

Thanks.
Dave

Andrew Miller

It is not about how much money you have in the bank. It is all about living
permanently in Canada and being able to prove it. You will have extreme
difficulties doing so within such short period of time from landing, without
established residence and without job in Canada.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"Fanta333" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Greetings:
    > I received my PR and should be landing in Canada from the US towards the
end of
    > March. I then plan to travel to India to get married to my fiance on May
15. My
    > question is, will I be immediately able to sponsor her to bring her to
Canada?
    > I have over $50,000 in my bank account and should not have any problem
    > supporting her till either of us find employment.
    > Thanks.
    > Dave

Singh

What is someone doesnt plan to work and is a high-net worth individual.

How long is enuf to show that he/she has established residence ? And how do
you establish that anyway, other than renting or buying property.


"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Xws0c.35666$A12.20596@edtnps84...
    > It is not about how much money you have in the bank. It is all about
living
    > permanently in Canada and being able to prove it. You will have extreme
    > difficulties doing so within such short period of time from landing,
without
    > established residence and without job in Canada.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "Fanta333" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Greetings:
    > >
    > > I received my PR and should be landing in Canada from the US towards the
    > end of
    > > March. I then plan to travel to India to get married to my fiance on May
    > 15. My
    > > question is, will I be immediately able to sponsor her to bring her to
    > Canada?
    > > I have over $50,000 in my bank account and should not have any problem
    > > supporting her till either of us find employment.
    > >
    > > Thanks.
    > > Dave

Andrew Miller

Someone's net worth is irrelevant - it is residing permanently in Canada
what is required and must be documented. Someone who just landed and shortly
after left has not established residence in Canada at all, so he cannot
sponsor anyone. Why it is so hard to understand? Renting or owning residence
is not enough if one doesn't live in Canada. In order to prove that one
lives here other evidence must be presented - utility bills, credit and
debit cards statement, record of employment or operating business or
attending school, tax returns and tax assessment as well as Option C
printout that must be obtained from Revenue Canada after last year tax
return has been assessed, etc. - one must prove beyond doubt that s/he lives
in Canada. Staying here even for a month or so after landing without
establishing permanent residence and without really starting living in
Canada will not fly.

Unfortunately there are many H1 and other US visa holders who wish to
continue to live in US but apply for and obtain Canadian PR status for the
sole purpose of sponsoring family members to Canada and due to that CIC is
becoming very strict in requiring solid proof of sponsor actually residing
permanently in Canada.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"Singh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:I%[email protected]...
    > What is someone doesnt plan to work and is a high-net worth individual.
    > How long is enuf to show that he/she has established residence ? And how
do
    > you establish that anyway, other than renting or buying property.
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:Xws0c.35666$A12.20596@edtnps84...
    > > It is not about how much money you have in the bank. It is all about
    > living
    > > permanently in Canada and being able to prove it. You will have extreme
    > > difficulties doing so within such short period of time from landing,
    > without
    > > established residence and without job in Canada.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "Fanta333" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > Greetings:
    > > >
    > > > I received my PR and should be landing in Canada from the US towards
the
    > > end of
    > > > March. I then plan to travel to India to get married to my fiance on
May
    > > 15. My
    > > > question is, will I be immediately able to sponsor her to bring her to
    > > Canada?
    > > > I have over $50,000 in my bank account and should not have any problem
    > > > supporting her till either of us find employment.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks.
    > > > Dave
    > >
    > >

Singh

I see, thank you




"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bXu0c.36478$A12.8928@edtnps84...
    > Someone's net worth is irrelevant - it is residing permanently in Canada
    > what is required and must be documented. Someone who just landed and
shortly
    > after left has not established residence in Canada at all, so he cannot
    > sponsor anyone. Why it is so hard to understand? Renting or owning
residence
    > is not enough if one doesn't live in Canada. In order to prove that one
    > lives here other evidence must be presented - utility bills, credit and
    > debit cards statement, record of employment or operating business or
    > attending school, tax returns and tax assessment as well as Option C
    > printout that must be obtained from Revenue Canada after last year tax
    > return has been assessed, etc. - one must prove beyond doubt that s/he
lives
    > in Canada. Staying here even for a month or so after landing without
    > establishing permanent residence and without really starting living in
    > Canada will not fly.
    > Unfortunately there are many H1 and other US visa holders who wish to
    > continue to live in US but apply for and obtain Canadian PR status for the
    > sole purpose of sponsoring family members to Canada and due to that CIC is
    > becoming very strict in requiring solid proof of sponsor actually residing
    > permanently in Canada.
    > --
    > ../..
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    > "Singh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:I%[email protected]...
    > > What is someone doesnt plan to work and is a high-net worth individual.
    > >
    > > How long is enuf to show that he/she has established residence ? And how
    > do
    > > you establish that anyway, other than renting or buying property.
    > >
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:Xws0c.35666$A12.20596@edtnps84...
    > > > It is not about how much money you have in the bank. It is all about
    > > living
    > > > permanently in Canada and being able to prove it. You will have
extreme
    > > > difficulties doing so within such short period of time from landing,
    > > without
    > > > established residence and without job in Canada.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Fanta333" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Greetings:
    > > > >
    > > > > I received my PR and should be landing in Canada from the US towards
    > the
    > > > end of
    > > > > March. I then plan to travel to India to get married to my fiance on
    > May
    > > > 15. My
    > > > > question is, will I be immediately able to sponsor her to bring her
to
    > > > Canada?
    > > > > I have over $50,000 in my bank account and should not have any
problem
    > > > > supporting her till either of us find employment.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks.
    > > > > Dave
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

The Flyer

With due respect to the 'elites', the lawyers will give you the
absolute law statement, especially in a public forum. However, if you
explore 'other' avenues, surely there are ways to do such things; it
is not that hard.

Good Luck.

The Flyer

"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<bXu0c.36478$A12.8928@edtnps84>...
    > Someone's net worth is irrelevant - it is residing permanently in Canada
    > what is required and must be documented. Someone who just landed and shortly
    > after left has not established residence in Canada at all, so he cannot
    > sponsor anyone. Why it is so hard to understand? Renting or owning residence
    > is not enough if one doesn't live in Canada. In order to prove that one
    > lives here other evidence must be presented - utility bills, credit and
    > debit cards statement, record of employment or operating business or
    > attending school, tax returns and tax assessment as well as Option C
    > printout that must be obtained from Revenue Canada after last year tax
    > return has been assessed, etc. - one must prove beyond doubt that s/he lives
    > in Canada. Staying here even for a month or so after landing without
    > establishing permanent residence and without really starting living in
    > Canada will not fly.
    >
    > Unfortunately there are many H1 and other US visa holders who wish to
    > continue to live in US but apply for and obtain Canadian PR status for the
    > sole purpose of sponsoring family members to Canada and due to that CIC is
    > becoming very strict in requiring solid proof of sponsor actually residing
    > permanently in Canada.
    >
    > --
    >
    > ../..
    >
    > Andrew Miller
    > Immigration Consultant
    > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > email: [email protected]
    > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > ________________________________
    >
    >
    > "Singh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:I%[email protected]...
    > > What is someone doesnt plan to work and is a high-net worth individual.
    > >
    > > How long is enuf to show that he/she has established residence ? And how
    > do
    > > you establish that anyway, other than renting or buying property.
    > >
    > >
    > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:Xws0c.35666$A12.20596@edtnps84...
    > > > It is not about how much money you have in the bank. It is all about
    > living
    > > > permanently in Canada and being able to prove it. You will have extreme
    > > > difficulties doing so within such short period of time from landing,
    > without
    > > > established residence and without job in Canada.
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > > > ../..
    > > >
    > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > ________________________________
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Fanta333" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > Greetings:
    > > > >
    > > > > I received my PR and should be landing in Canada from the US towards
    > the
    > end of
    > > > > March. I then plan to travel to India to get married to my fiance on
    > May
    > 15. My
    > > > > question is, will I be immediately able to sponsor her to bring her to
    > Canada?
    > > > > I have over $50,000 in my bank account and should not have any problem
    > > > > supporting her till either of us find employment.
    > > > >
    > > > > Thanks.
    > > > > Dave
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >

Andrew Miller

Dear "Flyer"

Please read the following parts of the immigration law (IRPA) and pay
special attention to section 126 that applies to you and see also in section
128 what you and person you advising to "explore other avenues" may face:

------------------------------------------------------------

16. (1) A person who makes an application must answer truthfully all
questions put to them for the purpose of the examination and must produce a
visa and all relevant evidence and documents that the officer reasonably
requires.

***********
Misrepresentation

126. Every person who knowingly counsels, induces, aids or abets or
attempts to counsel, induce, aid or abet any person to directly or
indirectly misrepresent or withhold material facts relating to a relevant
matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this
Act is guilty of an offence.

127. No person shall knowingly

(a) directly or indirectly misrepresent or withhold material facts
relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the
administration of this Act;

(b) communicate, directly or indirectly, by any means, false or misleading
information or declarations with intent to induce or deter immigration to
Canada; or

(c) refuse to be sworn or to affirm or declare, as the case may be, or to
answer a question put to the person at an examination or at a proceeding
held under this Act.

Penalties

128. A person who contravenes a provision of section 126 or 127 is guilty
of an offence and liable

(a) on conviction on indictment, to a fine of not more than $100,000 or to
imprisonment for a term of not more than five years, or to both; or

(b) on summary conviction, to a fine of not more than $50,000 or to
imprisonment for a term of not more than two years, or to both.
___________________________________________


Have a great time.

--

../..

Andrew Miller
Immigration Consultant
Vancouver, British Columbia
email: [email protected]
(delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
________________________________


"The Flyer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > With due respect to the 'elites', the lawyers will give you the
    > absolute law statement, especially in a public forum. However, if you
    > explore 'other' avenues, surely there are ways to do such things; it
    > is not that hard.
    > Good Luck.
    > The Flyer
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<bXu0c.36478$A12.8928@edtnps84>...
    > > Someone's net worth is irrelevant - it is residing permanently in Canada
    > > what is required and must be documented. Someone who just landed and
shortly
    > > after left has not established residence in Canada at all, so he cannot
    > > sponsor anyone. Why it is so hard to understand? Renting or owning
residence
    > > is not enough if one doesn't live in Canada. In order to prove that one
    > > lives here other evidence must be presented - utility bills, credit and
    > > debit cards statement, record of employment or operating business or
    > > attending school, tax returns and tax assessment as well as Option C
    > > printout that must be obtained from Revenue Canada after last year tax
    > > return has been assessed, etc. - one must prove beyond doubt that s/he
lives
    > > in Canada. Staying here even for a month or so after landing without
    > > establishing permanent residence and without really starting living in
    > > Canada will not fly.
    > >
    > > Unfortunately there are many H1 and other US visa holders who wish to
    > > continue to live in US but apply for and obtain Canadian PR status for
the
    > > sole purpose of sponsoring family members to Canada and due to that CIC
is
    > > becoming very strict in requiring solid proof of sponsor actually
residing
    > > permanently in Canada.
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > ../..
    > >
    > > Andrew Miller
    > > Immigration Consultant
    > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > email: [email protected]
    > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > ________________________________
    > >
    > >
    > > "Singh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:I%[email protected]...
    > > > What is someone doesnt plan to work and is a high-net worth
individual.
    > > >
    > > > How long is enuf to show that he/she has established residence ? And
how
    > > do
    > > > you establish that anyway, other than renting or buying property.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > news:Xws0c.35666$A12.20596@edtnps84...
    > > > > It is not about how much money you have in the bank. It is all about
    > > living
    > > > > permanently in Canada and being able to prove it. You will have
extreme
    > > > > difficulties doing so within such short period of time from landing,
    > > without
    > > > > established residence and without job in Canada.
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > >
    > > > > ../..
    > > > >
    > > > > Andrew Miller
    > > > > Immigration Consultant
    > > > > Vancouver, British Columbia
    > > > > email: [email protected]
    > > > > (delete REMOVE from the above address before sending email)
    > > > > ________________________________
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > "Fanta333" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > > > news:[email protected]...
    > > > > > Greetings:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > I received my PR and should be landing in Canada from the US
towards
    > > the
    > > end of
    > > > > > March. I then plan to travel to India to get married to my fiance
on
    > > May
    > > 15. My
    > > > > > question is, will I be immediately able to sponsor her to bring
her to
    > > Canada?
    > > > > > I have over $50,000 in my bank account and should not have any
problem
    > > > > > supporting her till either of us find employment.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Thanks.
    > > > > > Dave
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > >

Webcrawler

Andrew --

"Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:bXu0c.36478$A12.8928@edtnps84...
    > Unfortunately there are many H1 and other US visa holders who wish to
    > continue to live in US but apply for and obtain Canadian PR status for the
    > sole purpose of sponsoring family members to Canada and due to that CIC is
    > becoming very strict in requiring solid proof of sponsor actually residing
    > permanently in Canada.

I am sorry to say that I personally know several people who run this scam.
Here is how it works:
Person in US (usually on H-1/L-1 as you said) obtains Canadian PR.
Completes landing, transfers some money into Canada.
Rents a cheap apartment, utilities, etc.
Obtains a debit or secured credit card (no need to establish credit).
Pays rent, utilities, etc. and keeps bills as proofs.
Ocassionally visits Canada over the weekends or long weekends.
After accumulating a volume of such "documents", then sponsors
spouse/kids/parents/whatever.

It is indeed sad how this scheme has been devised and actually works.
The scores of others who actually followed the due process and did it the
"right" way are left feeling like fools.

My opinion, of course.

Pmm

Hi

"WebCrawler" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > Andrew --
    > "Andrew Miller" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:bXu0c.36478$A12.8928@edtnps84...
    > > Unfortunately there are many H1 and other US visa holders who wish to
    > > continue to live in US but apply for and obtain Canadian PR status for
the
    > > sole purpose of sponsoring family members to Canada and due to that CIC
is
    > > becoming very strict in requiring solid proof of sponsor actually
residing
    > > permanently in Canada.
    > I am sorry to say that I personally know several people who run this scam.
    > Here is how it works:
    > Person in US (usually on H-1/L-1 as you said) obtains Canadian PR.
    > Completes landing, transfers some money into Canada.
    > Rents a cheap apartment, utilities, etc.
    > Obtains a debit or secured credit card (no need to establish credit).
    > Pays rent, utilities, etc. and keeps bills as proofs.
    > Ocassionally visits Canada over the weekends or long weekends.
    > After accumulating a volume of such "documents", then sponsors
    > spouse/kids/parents/whatever.
    > It is indeed sad how this scheme has been devised and actually works.
    > The scores of others who actually followed the due process and did it the
    > "right" way are left feeling like fools.
    > My opinion, of course.

Pretty hard to do without a Canadian source of income.

PMM

Robert

<snip>
    > Pretty hard to do without a Canadian source of income.
    > PMM
Maybe with a volume of other information the income is overlooked ?
Or maybe paid in CDN or some such thing ?

Would imagine its easy to work something out given the time and inclination.

IMHO

Webcrawler

"Robert" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > <snip>
    > >
    > > Pretty hard to do without a Canadian source of income.
    > >
    > > PMM
    > >
    > >
    > Maybe with a volume of other information the income is overlooked ?
    > Or maybe paid in CDN or some such thing ?
    > Would imagine its easy to work something out given the time and
inclination.
    > IMHO

You are correct in your interpretation, Robert.
All bills, etc. are paid in CAD via a Canadian bank account.
Also Canadian taxes are filed because the person can have pretty decent
interest earnings thru online banks like ING.
After working for 5+ years in the US in a high-tech job, a lot of people are
in a position to invest $50,000 + USD in Canada.

Like PMM, I was also under the impression that it would be pretty hard to do
without rock-solid proof that one is actually living in Canada.
But recently, I have come across more than 1 person who not only attempted
this, but also succeeded !
Even if 25% or less people succeed with this deception, it is a substantial
number.