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christmasoompa Apr 15th 2018 6:27 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by hishamx87 (Post 12482156)
:blink:
Pathetic.

I’m sorry to say, but even Pearson themselves say a Level 3 BTEC is equivalent to A Levels. :( https://qualifications.pearson.com/e...s.html/student

So it’s not surprising that ECA agencies are saying the same. They’re probably just looking at the website and taking the info from there!

Best of luck with the EE app, I hope you’ve got enough points without the diploma to get an ITA. :fingerscrossed:

hishamx87 Apr 15th 2018 6:32 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by JayJJeffery (Post 12482158)
Yap, i'd be more hopeful as you did the two years though, don't give up! I'm off to NZ in January so i've gotten over it :D

I will keep trying and writing to them:p

Best of luck for NZ:thumbsup:

hishamx87 Apr 15th 2018 6:36 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 12482161)
I’m sorry to say, but even Pearson themselves say a Level 3 BTEC is equivalent to A Levels. :( https://qualifications.pearson.com/e...s.html/student

So it’s not surprising that ECA agencies are saying the same. They’re probably just looking at the website and taking the info from there!

Best of luck with the EE app, I hope you’ve got enough points without the diploma to get an ITA. :fingerscrossed:

I am sitting at 413, so currently, no chance for direct ITA.

That's actually wierd. I have already written to ICES, let's see what they say about it.

I am just wondering how can a mechanical engineering diploma be equivalent to high school:huh:

acrylicus Apr 16th 2018 7:45 am

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 
**edit** I just realised I posted this in the wrong thread, its still relevant here so will leave it. My full context is here: http://britishexpats.com/forum/immig...valent-907198/

I got evaluated today as the following:

"Completion of a college-level certificate (one semester)"

No idea if that scores me any points or not, it 'fits' the wordage used on CIC's website as "One-year degree, diploma or certificate from a program at a university, college, trade or technical school, or other institute"

(source https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...ad-report.html)

But it also says "one semester" so that kind of goes against the whole "one year" thing.

There doesn't seem to be much discussion I can find about people getting this exact result from WES, does anyone know if this is worth points?

hishamx87 Apr 16th 2018 7:54 am

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by acrylicus (Post 12482396)
**edit** I just realised I posted this in the wrong thread, its still relevant here so will leave it. My full context is here: http://britishexpats.com/forum/immig...valent-907198/

I got evaluated today as the following:

"Completion of a college-level certificate (one semester)"

No idea if that scores me any points or not, it 'fits' the wordage used on CIC's website as "One-year degree, diploma or certificate from a program at a university, college, trade or technical school, or other institute"

(source https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...ad-report.html)

But it also says "one semester" so that kind of goes against the whole "one year" thing.

There doesn't seem to be much discussion I can find about people getting this exact result from WES, does anyone know if this is worth points?

Did you send your only BTEC Level 3 diploma or did you also include other prior education documents as well?

I read somewhere in other forums where someone wrote to WES and clarified that the "one semester" narration in the ECA is incorrect, for which, WES asked the applicant to bring a letter from his/her college to prove that its a full time course:confused:. This was provided and a revised ECA report was published.

It's worth a try.

acrylicus Apr 16th 2018 8:00 am

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by hishamx87 (Post 12482401)
Did you send your only BTEC Level 3 diploma or did you also include other prior education documents as well?

I read somewhere in other forums where someone wrote to WES and clarified that the "one semester" narration in the ECA is incorrect, for which, WES asked the applicant to bring a letter from his/her college to prove that its a full time course:confused:. This was provided and a revised ECA report was published.

It's worth a try.

They asked for my prior education documents, but I refused as we are talking at least 8 GCSE's and other A-Levels, the fees alone would have been over £500 - which is a lot for a gamble with poor odds.

I only sent my L3 BTEC certificates.

I've just emailed WES asking why it says one semester and if I can get that changed.

hishamx87 Apr 16th 2018 8:03 am

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by acrylicus (Post 12482404)
They asked for my prior education documents, but I refused as we are talking at least 8 GCSE's and other A-Levels, the fees alone would have been over £500 - which is a lot for a gamble with poor odds.

I only sent my L3 BTEC certificates.

I've just emailed WES asking why it says one semester and if I can get that changed.

Let us know the outcome. I have also written to ICES regarding their ECA. Let's hope.

Best of luck!

RealVileLev Apr 16th 2018 1:57 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 
Mines a 1 year level 5 btec pro diploma in music performance.

I was certain I'd be ok but now im not so sure

Engineer_abroad Apr 16th 2018 2:25 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by RealVileLev (Post 12482646)
Mines a 1 year level 5 btec pro diploma in music performance.

I was certain I'd be ok but now im not so sure

As a level 5 Parsons have it as equivalent to the 1st and 2nd years of an undergraduate degree. The question in your case is more likely to be whether music performance is classed as academic or vocational.

https://qualifications.pearson.com/e...-by-level.html

RealVileLev Apr 16th 2018 2:28 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 
So nerveracking. My backup is my 2 year music technology national award, but its only a level 3

RealVileLev Apr 16th 2018 2:51 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 
Guys I literally just got the email from BCIT, it came back as:|

Credential 1: one year certificate.

Is that good or bad?

JayJJeffery Apr 16th 2018 4:24 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by acrylicus (Post 12482396)
**edit** I just realised I posted this in the wrong thread, its still relevant here so will leave it. My full context is here: http://britishexpats.com/forum/immig...valent-907198/

I got evaluated today as the following:

"Completion of a college-level certificate (one semester)"

No idea if that scores me any points or not, it 'fits' the wordage used on CIC's website as "One-year degree, diploma or certificate from a program at a university, college, trade or technical school, or other institute"

(source https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...ad-report.html)

But it also says "one semester" so that kind of goes against the whole "one year" thing.

There doesn't seem to be much discussion I can find about people getting this exact result from WES, does anyone know if this is worth points?


I just rechecked mine and this is what WES gave me, CES gave me the high school equivalent.

One semester is not a full year and therefore will not count, it's stupid and I ended up going up to the chain of command to the head of operations of WES in Canada and they said that's what they consider it as, even if i did a full year, it's the equivalent of only a semester here.

Worth disputing but doubtful I'm afraid.


To the last post, one year certificate post secondary is good.

RealVileLev Apr 16th 2018 7:39 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 
Yesssssss!

christmasoompa Apr 16th 2018 10:20 pm

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by RealVileLev (Post 12482877)
Yesssssss!

It will just depend on how many points you needed. If it’s enough to get you past the magic 450 number for an ITA, then yesssssss indeed.

hishamx87 Apr 17th 2018 5:58 am

Re: BTEC National Diploma & CES
 

Originally Posted by JayJJeffery (Post 12482740)
I just rechecked mine and this is what WES gave me, CES gave me the high school equivalent.

One semester is not a full year and therefore will not count, it's stupid and I ended up going up to the chain of command to the head of operations of WES in Canada and they said that's what they consider it as, even if i did a full year, it's the equivalent of only a semester here.

Worth disputing but doubtful I'm afraid.


To the last post, one year certificate post secondary is good.

Try writing to Pearson and explain them the situation. Once you get their response forward the same to WES. There's a possibility that the same course is offered in Canada too and is considered as post secondary education.


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