Sink Drains.
#1
Sink Drains.
Not an intriguing topic I admit.
I have 3 sinks on the same wall, two on one side, one on the other.
I am planning a little remodel so needed to know the drain routes. One goes to a sump drain in the floor but the other two are discharging into the toilet waste pipe, I am not sure if this is actually correct or permitted.
I would hate for the authorities to tell me I have to rip up my new tiles and change the drains at anytime, so just thought I would ask if anyone knows if this is accepted practice or not.
Thanks.
I have 3 sinks on the same wall, two on one side, one on the other.
I am planning a little remodel so needed to know the drain routes. One goes to a sump drain in the floor but the other two are discharging into the toilet waste pipe, I am not sure if this is actually correct or permitted.
I would hate for the authorities to tell me I have to rip up my new tiles and change the drains at anytime, so just thought I would ask if anyone knows if this is accepted practice or not.
Thanks.
#2
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Re: Sink Drains.
Not an intriguing topic I admit.
I have 3 sinks on the same wall, two on one side, one on the other.
I am planning a little remodel so needed to know the drain routes. One goes to a sump drain in the floor but the other two are discharging into the toilet waste pipe, I am not sure if this is actually correct or permitted.
I would hate for the authorities to tell me I have to rip up my new tiles and change the drains at anytime, so just thought I would ask if anyone knows if this is accepted practice or not.
Thanks.
I have 3 sinks on the same wall, two on one side, one on the other.
I am planning a little remodel so needed to know the drain routes. One goes to a sump drain in the floor but the other two are discharging into the toilet waste pipe, I am not sure if this is actually correct or permitted.
I would hate for the authorities to tell me I have to rip up my new tiles and change the drains at anytime, so just thought I would ask if anyone knows if this is accepted practice or not.
Thanks.
#3
Re: Sink Drains.
Not an intriguing topic I admit.
I have 3 sinks on the same wall, two on one side, one on the other.
I am planning a little remodel so needed to know the drain routes. One goes to a sump drain in the floor but the other two are discharging into the toilet waste pipe, I am not sure if this is actually correct or permitted.
I would hate for the authorities to tell me I have to rip up my new tiles and change the drains at anytime, so just thought I would ask if anyone knows if this is accepted practice or not.
Thanks.
I have 3 sinks on the same wall, two on one side, one on the other.
I am planning a little remodel so needed to know the drain routes. One goes to a sump drain in the floor but the other two are discharging into the toilet waste pipe, I am not sure if this is actually correct or permitted.
I would hate for the authorities to tell me I have to rip up my new tiles and change the drains at anytime, so just thought I would ask if anyone knows if this is accepted practice or not.
Thanks.
Hope that makes sense?
Forgot to add the plans for the holding tank in my front garden was approved by the local town planner.
#4
Re: Sink Drains.
Given that you will have only one 110mm soil pipe leaving the property all the waste water ends up in this pipe anyway. The toilet waste pipe will be 110mm and the sump outlet will be 50mm and typically connected to the toilet 110mm pipe under the floor. The important thing to ensure is that there is a means for air to get into the 110mm pipe at the outboard end. In the UK that is usually done with a stack pipe to the outside. Here it is often ignored. when you connect the sink drain to the toilet waste pipe ensure that you have an air admittance valve on the system as close to the last item as possible. The air admittance valves are one way valves that allow air in to the soil pipe but stop air back-flow (so no smells) Its purpose is to stop the siphon effect of a large amount of water (loo flush) from sucking the water out of the sink traps.
#5
Re: Sink Drains.
Thank you both for taking the time.
My confusion arose because all 3 sinks are on a common wall so why not simply have all of them use a common drain, instead of using 3 separate pipes with 3 holes cut into the 110mm soil pipe.
Also because the building was originally a garage before conversion to a doctors surgery, I wasn't sure if the floor sump might not have been designed to run to a different collection tank for contaminated liquid.
But you are correct and all of them end up in the toilet waste pipe.
My confusion arose because all 3 sinks are on a common wall so why not simply have all of them use a common drain, instead of using 3 separate pipes with 3 holes cut into the 110mm soil pipe.
Also because the building was originally a garage before conversion to a doctors surgery, I wasn't sure if the floor sump might not have been designed to run to a different collection tank for contaminated liquid.
But you are correct and all of them end up in the toilet waste pipe.
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Re: Sink Drains.
You can have all three sinks on a common drain pipe but to be safe an air admittance valve should be fitted at the upstream most sink. If you don't fit one and when using the down stream sinks if you hear bubbling at the upstream sink(s) then you need one.
To be correct an air admittance valve should be fitted at the upstream end of each leg connected to the 110 exiting soil pipe. My experience is that the valves last about 7-8 years befor the rubbers go hard and the possibility of smells coming back arises - then it is time to replace the valve.
To be correct an air admittance valve should be fitted at the upstream end of each leg connected to the 110 exiting soil pipe. My experience is that the valves last about 7-8 years befor the rubbers go hard and the possibility of smells coming back arises - then it is time to replace the valve.
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Re: Sink Drains.
You can have all three sinks on a common drain pipe but to be safe an air admittance valve should be fitted at the upstream most sink. If you don't fit one and when using the down stream sinks if you hear bubbling at the upstream sink(s) then you need one.
To be correct an air admittance valve should be fitted at the upstream end of each leg connected to the 110 exiting soil pipe. My experience is that the valves last about 7-8 years befor the rubbers go hard and the possibility of smells coming back arises - then it is time to replace the valve.
To be correct an air admittance valve should be fitted at the upstream end of each leg connected to the 110 exiting soil pipe. My experience is that the valves last about 7-8 years befor the rubbers go hard and the possibility of smells coming back arises - then it is time to replace the valve.
It is not only the 'orrible smells, there is a significant amount of very warm air coming up at the moment. Sooner I fit a new toilet the better. But as discussed many moons ago in another thread, the shelf type loo is not to my liking and had to go.
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Re: Sink Drains.
I am removing 2 of the sinks as obsolete and obstructive to the new plan, with just the one then the 'u' bend should stop smells from the sink. Not so confident about the new shower drain which uses a couple of ping pong balls to seal the outlet when no water is flowing. I will leave the tiling until the drain system is fitted and fully tried and tested.