Garden Boundaries
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That "right side" (I like to call it the wrong side) is the side where you usually have only small windows, at least 2 yards high so you can't look into the neighbour's garden/terrace.
At least that how it looks in Zala county where we lived and now in Komarom/Esztergom.
Often the gas meter is on this "wrong side" outside so obviously at least half a meter ground should belong to you.
It also happens that the front part of the house has this distance of half a meter but the back which used to be stables, chicken coops and agricultural space is built exactly on the "border".
PS:
This "wrong side" is usually the coldest side of the house where you find the toilet, bathroom (if it exists) - and the pantry so foodstuff doesn't get too hot.
During the heatwave right now there really was a significant difference in temperature.
At least that how it looks in Zala county where we lived and now in Komarom/Esztergom.
Often the gas meter is on this "wrong side" outside so obviously at least half a meter ground should belong to you.
It also happens that the front part of the house has this distance of half a meter but the back which used to be stables, chicken coops and agricultural space is built exactly on the "border".
PS:
This "wrong side" is usually the coldest side of the house where you find the toilet, bathroom (if it exists) - and the pantry so foodstuff doesn't get too hot.
During the heatwave right now there really was a significant difference in temperature.
Last edited by wolfi; Aug 24th 2021 at 7:35 am. Reason: Forgot
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That "right side" (I like to call it the wrong side) is the side where you usually have only small windows, at least 2 yards high so you can't look into the neighbour's garden/terrace.
At least that how it looks in Zala county where we lived and now in Komarom/Esztergom.
Often the gas meter is on this "wrong side" outside so obviously at least half a meter ground should belong to you.
It also happens that the front part of the house has this distance of half a meter but the back which used to be stables, chicken coops and agricultural space is built exactly on the "border".
PS:
This "wrong side" is usually the coldest side of the house where you find the toilet, bathroom (if it exists) - and the pantry so foodstuff doesn't get too hot.
During the heatwave right now there really was a significant difference in temperature.
At least that how it looks in Zala county where we lived and now in Komarom/Esztergom.
Often the gas meter is on this "wrong side" outside so obviously at least half a meter ground should belong to you.
It also happens that the front part of the house has this distance of half a meter but the back which used to be stables, chicken coops and agricultural space is built exactly on the "border".
PS:
This "wrong side" is usually the coldest side of the house where you find the toilet, bathroom (if it exists) - and the pantry so foodstuff doesn't get too hot.
During the heatwave right now there really was a significant difference in temperature.
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The side wall you see in my photos is the "right" side and the coldest side. There's three small windows atleast two metres high for toilet, bathroom and kamra.
It looks to me like the previous owners "gifted" the 1 metre strip to the neighbours as they put up a fence on that side aligning it with the side of the house and not 1 metre away from the side of house. If it was moved it would be an expense for us. I can't see us gaining anything if we moved the fence except a falling out with the neighbours but to be fair they are using it to hide "junk" behind a bush. Still as it's ours it's our right to remove them regardless where the fence is.
It looks to me like the previous owners "gifted" the 1 metre strip to the neighbours as they put up a fence on that side aligning it with the side of the house and not 1 metre away from the side of house. If it was moved it would be an expense for us. I can't see us gaining anything if we moved the fence except a falling out with the neighbours but to be fair they are using it to hide "junk" behind a bush. Still as it's ours it's our right to remove them regardless where the fence is.
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the bicycle is usually resting the other way with handlebars poking through the fence. I actually pushed it the other way about a month ago and did it again yesterday.
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I don't have a fence on the right side next to my house and my neighbour has some stuff along the 2 metre strip also including plants that they planted. I don't worry about it because I cannot take care of the rest of the garden myself so I don't get worked up about it. I cannot see any of it from the road and there is no fence on the boundary along that property line. I informed them that if I ever need to have a contractor working on that side they would have to move anything in the way and I would not be responsible for any of the plants damged by a contractor. I get on fine with the neighbour and I would rather keep it that way than fight over a 2 X 20 metre strip of garden I legally own but have no real use for most of the time. I know its the principle of the matter but better try and have a good neighbour if possible than making a possible bad neighbour. As they say "Welcome to Hungary" things are different than they are back home, we should not expect everything to be as it is back home.
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Who trims the evergreen hedge? because without trimming it will fill the gap within a few years (it looks like it was trimmed last year)
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I don't have a fence on the right side next to my house and my neighbour has some stuff along the 2 metre strip also including plants that they planted. I don't worry about it because I cannot take care of the rest of the garden myself so I don't get worked up about it. I cannot see any of it from the road and there is no fence on the boundary along that property line. I informed them that if I ever need to have a contractor working on that side they would have to move anything in the way and I would not be responsible for any of the plants damged by a contractor. I get on fine with the neighbour and I would rather keep it that way than fight over a 2 X 20 metre strip of garden I legally own but have no real use for most of the time. I know its the principle of the matter but better try and have a good neighbour if possible than making a possible bad neighbour. As they say "Welcome to Hungary" things are different than they are back home, we should not expect everything to be as it is back home.
So thanks for your advice everyone.
There is 10cm insulation all around except for a metre from ground level. If it gets damaged then they will have to accept the costs of any repairs.
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That is crazy ! Insulation should go all the way down to the ground and with benefit below ground as well. Even if your house floor is 1m above ground (as a lot of houses are in Hungary) without the insulation going down to the ground you will have a massive cold bridge where the insulation ends. You will see a lot of houses where the insulation ends at ground floor level - this is wrong and it should go down to the ground or even below ground. It stops at floor level because the contractors doing the work don't understand what they are doing and the owners are happy with the money saved (and they don't understand insulation either - but why should they?)
One thing I don't understand is if they've put a sewage pipe under the ground floor before it was concreted over. Having looked there seems to be no signs of one. We don't have municipal sewage so like me they will have to have a holding tank which because of thelie of the land can only go next to the back wall of my house.


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That is crazy ! Insulation should go all the way down to the ground and with benefit below ground as well. Even if your house floor is 1m above ground (as a lot of houses are in Hungary) without the insulation going down to the ground you will have a massive cold bridge where the insulation ends. You will see a lot of houses where the insulation ends at ground floor level - this is wrong and it should go down to the ground or even below ground. It stops at floor level because the contractors doing the work don't understand what they are doing and the owners are happy with the money saved (and they don't understand insulation either - but why should they?)
Our house ground floor level is about 1.1m (might be 1.4m ... just an estimate) from garden level. The insulation starts at 0.5m upwards from garden level. Should it go lower? Blame the previous owners as this is how it is.
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This photo is the other side ... note .. nothing except some small rose bushes just on the edge of the 1m strip.
We get a lot of glare from their wall into our lounge. Our fault as we didn't think about it when we viewed the house. Need some net curtains to camouflage it a bit. Pulling the shutters down makes our lounge darker. Our garden is south facing and photo was at 5:30pm.

We get a lot of glare from their wall into our lounge. Our fault as we didn't think about it when we viewed the house. Need some net curtains to camouflage it a bit. Pulling the shutters down makes our lounge darker. Our garden is south facing and photo was at 5:30pm.

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It's the ongoing noise from them talking loudly to each other and the sound of the various machines that gets me.



