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Old Nov 8th 2018, 2:44 pm
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Im confused about the TAJ card.
I applied for one in June from the Kaposvar office and was told to wait at least 3 months while they requested info from the UK.
The next day I went to my local Marcali office where the lady took all details, lakcimet etc then straight away issued me a tax number on an official stamped sheet. A week later a card arrived by post (see picture).

The Kaposvar office replied today with a copy letter from UK HMRC saying they got a E104 form request for info But to resend advising what they need (S041 ?) and to include start and finish dates Obviously Kaposvar doesnt know that form E104 is obsolete.

If the card I recieved is the correct one I can forget about the Kaposvar office.


Firstly is this actually the TAJ card that you use for health care access and payments. Or is it a different type of tax card.Secondly How do I actually make the monthly contribution payments.

Any clarity would be very welcome
I am now permenantly living in Hungary. Unemployed and living off savings until pesions start.
Many thanks.
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Old Nov 8th 2018, 7:23 pm
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Stegy,

That card is your personal tax number/card.

Not a TAJ card.

I am self employed and make a monthly payment by online banking to NAV which covers my tax and TAJ. Not exactly sure how others do it.

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Old Nov 9th 2018, 2:59 am
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Thanks Rickster
It looks like I will have to follow up the Kaposvar office.
It did seem far too easy though.
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Old Nov 10th 2018, 3:50 pm
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Hi your half way there ? If you go back to the nav office and ask the for the form (18T1011) this is the form they fill out with you and ask when you would like to start payments i.e. Start / middle / end of the month Cost 7300 ft per month (taj card payment )in my case they gave me the pay at the post office (yellow tkt ) and also said that not to be later than ten days after the due date as the payment may not be accepted .. and it's the form (I asked for a copy as the taj office was only 200 mts away ). I then filled out the taj card form with them and they then sent by reg post the letter first with the taj number on it and about 4 days later the actual taj card ? I Hope this helps
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Old Nov 10th 2018, 5:50 pm
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Hi Sunshine.
Thanks for that. I am not sure if my local Marcali office can do this but armed with the form number you gave and your experience im getting close retc. Slightly confused as to which is a NAV office and which office deals with TAJ cards but hopefully I will be able to check all this at the local Marcali office .
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Old Nov 10th 2018, 6:48 pm
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Hi Sunshine.
Thanks for that. I am not sure if my local Marcali office can do this but armed with the form number you gave and your experience im getting close retc. Slightly confused as to which is a NAV office and which office deals with TAJ cards but hopefully I will be able to check all this at the local Marcali office .

Years ago we were told to go to Kaposvar to get TAJ cards etc ) which we did with no hassle) so maybe we could have saved a few miles travel ( living in somogy area)
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Old Nov 11th 2018, 6:43 am
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Hi stegy just a bit more information for you '? The nav office is the /hu - tax office ( uk - hmrc ) That's the office that you gave you your plastic card ! Which is to be honest I don't have yet I did get a paper official letter at the time with my (nav reg no ) on it . and they said they would post it to me ! Only been 7 working days !! The taj office is the department of Heath and social security , and as ( enter) has said they had to go to kaposvar I expect that's a main city ? I did have no luck at our local nav office so I went to our nearest main city and they have been excellent in there help. Also I did (taj office ) originally apply for the so41, and it did take longer than 3 months '+ a call to hmrc , now for the nitty gritty bit I'm 67 so retired so the so41 came back with the hmrc saying yes my contributions were ok with a start date of xx/xx/2014 - and an end date of xx/xx/2016 (when I retired) now I thought I would have a problem as hmrc had not put the other 40 years worth of contributions on the form ?! Now it actually turns out after I received my card ( the important bit ) the reason I'm have to pay contributions ( 7300 ft ) is that there is an end date on my so41 now in order to get free (i.e. Not have to pay contributions) I now have to get form (s1) Which means on Monday I have to ring DWP overseas Heath care dept in the uk for the s1 form and I think it's also linked to the ehic card which has to be changed from my uk based one to a non uk based one will let you know what happens ?
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Old Nov 11th 2018, 7:44 am
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Thanks Sunshine.
That sounds more like the beaurocratic roundabout I was expecting. So Monday its back to Kaposvar
I was wondering about the dates of info required from the HMRC as I have been living in the middle east for tthe last 6 years and havent paid any NI contributions.
Well I will see how it goes tomorrow. As long as its two steps forward and only one back im still getting there.
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Old Nov 11th 2018, 9:15 am
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Hi stegy if there a lot closer you could try your local nav office again as they do seam really helpful, as they gave you the tax card ! I think that they normally help you fill out the taj- T18xxxxform ( tax card -res- card -add card ) all asked for in order to fill out the taj-T18xxx form , they never Looked at the so41 at all and I do believe that they then send off the form to the taj office obviously would take longer to receive the taj card that way ? As you say you haven't payed into the ni in the last 6 years sounds like you would be in a similar situation? You can but I'm not 100% positive If you want to make ni contributions your allowed to go back for the last 5 years ?? I.e. It tops up you pension from the uk in my case I had 5 years missing from teens -2? So couldn't top it up ,5 years makes about £18-20 , a week more on the basic pension of 35 years just a thought for you ? Also do you have the uk ehic card ? They love it here it's like having bupa in the uk (ie. someone else is paying ) You can do it on line just need a uk postal address then your a tourist the same as me 😂😂😂untill it's all sorted out ?
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