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jetblackonetenth Mar 18th 2020 5:20 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Someone from the balaton area should be getting in tonight with a address card and a registration card who was refused at Gatwick yesterday
I am hoping to fly in the morning with the same and will report back how I get on
my back up plan is I have a copy of my Hungarian birth certificate that the embassy got for me when they registered my English birth in the Hungarian system
I haven’t applied for my Hungarian ID card yet which they will give me now my birth is registered
should have got it done sooner ☹️

wolfi Mar 18th 2020 8:33 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Jetblack, you're right - I have a registration card too besides the lakcim card.
Anywway I'm in Hungary now so a problem could turn up when I try to get to Germany via Austria.
Well, I still have time until May maybe and I hope the situation will be better then..

Peter_in_Hungary Mar 18th 2020 10:08 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by wolfi (Post 12823054)
Jetblack, you're right - I have a registration card too besides the lakcim card.
Anywway I'm in Hungary now so a problem could turn up when I try to get to Germany via Austria.
Well, I still have time until May maybe and I hope the situation will be better then..

If you are a German citizen they can't stop you entering Germany and it seems that countries are allowing transits to their home country. But unless the boarder hold-ups have improved from what was shown on the news tonight I wouldn't want to go anywhere. Early days - IMO things will settle down to a new style (different) normal in a couple of weeks.

hobgoblins Mar 18th 2020 10:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by jetblackonetenth (Post 12822938)
the lakcim card is an address card and not a residency permit
the other card you normally get is a registration Card
the one they want is a permanent residence card which has an id photo on

It is all very confusing ... my residence card doesn't have a photo on it but it doesn't have an expiry date either ... I was under the impression that only those who were citizens or had gained citizenship were issued the version with a photo on it ?
Meanwhile, this from the Guardian ....
"​​​​​​Here is what the Guardian reporter posted from the BUD airport. It appears even if you have residency in Hungary you have serious trouble getting back in.

"Dozens of people are being held at Hungary’s Budapest airport, including the Guardian’s central and eastern Europe correspondent, Shaun Walker, after the country closed its borders to almost all foreigners at short notice on Monday.
He writes: I’m in a room by a departure gate at the airport, with about sixty others in close confinement. They include those with homes, lives and partners in Hungary. It’s a chaotic situation, with people occasionally called for deportation. I landed from London at 1am and it’s now 10am with little sign of progress, despite interventions from the British Embassy and Hungarian foreign ministry.
Hungary’s prime minister Viktor Orban announced Hungary’s borders would close at midnight on Monday, with just a few hours notice. On Tuesday this was relaxed to include European Economic Area nationals with permanent residency permits. However most Europeans who live and work in Hungary have only registration cards, the main legal requirement.
On Wednesday, European embassies had been led to believe that citizens with registration in Hungary, who could prove links to the country, would be allowed to enter. But that does not now appear to be the case.
On Thursday morning, an official told those in the transit area they had a choice of flying home or waiting an indefinite period of time, possibly several days, for approval to enter Hungary. He was met with shouts of “This is our home” from several people, as well as complaints about the contamination risk given the close confines of the holding conditions."

scrubbedexpat142 Mar 18th 2020 10:35 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

. It is all very confusing ... my residence card doesn't have a photo on it but it doesn't have an expiry date either ... I was under the impression that only those who were citizens or had gained citizenship were issued the version with a photo on it ?
Because your "residence card" is actually a "Regisztrációs Igazolás" - a certificate of registration, not a residence card.

hobgoblins Mar 18th 2020 10:53 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12823253)
Because your "residence card" is actually a "Regisztrációs Igazolás" - a certificate of registration, not a residence card.

That would explain it ... Thanks !

2017sunshine Mar 18th 2020 10:58 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Hi mr tiger the news above is well out of date , I read on one of the official web sites that all foreigners tourists are now banned and there letting in hu citizens and foreign nationals with hu relitives and foreign nationals with residence permits ? And I'm not sure you can drive there at the moment ? There were massive quest at the borders? Just a thought are you still in the uk ? I'm just waiting for my new hearing aids then I hopefully I can fly back to hu regards Trevor

FenTiger Mar 18th 2020 11:31 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by 2017sunshine (Post 12823265)
Hi mr tiger the news above is well out of date , I read on one of the official web sites that all foreigners tourists are now banned and there letting in hu citizens and foreign nationals with hu relitives and foreign nationals with residence permits ? And I'm not sure you can drive there at the moment ? There were massive quest at the borders? Just a thought are you still in the uk ? I'm just waiting for my new hearing aids then I hopefully I can fly back to hu regards Trevor

Hi Mr.Sunshine
My wife is Hungarian and I have a mother-in-law, sister-in-law and her husband, plus two nephews. Does that count me as being a 'foreign national with Hungarian relatives'? I believe commercial vehicles are the only ones being allowed across EU borders. Is that correct? This is what my removal service company told me a few days ago.

almafak Mar 19th 2020 12:01 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
We moved to Hungary five years ago. I was issued a Regisztrációs Igazolás after 90 days and my wife, a non-EU citizen, was given a residence permit for the spouse of an EEC citizen. A few months ago my wife applied for, and duly received, a National Permanent residence card with no dependency conditions. I attempted to get a permanent residence card at the same time but was told I did not need one and could not apply but my Regisztrációs Igazolás was valid proof of residence. It is clear that this is not the case!

OIF offices have issued a statement updated today: Information for clients regarding coronavirus epidemic

jetblackonetenth Mar 19th 2020 4:42 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
I was one of the fortunate ones
i was let in because I had a copy of my Hungarian birth certificate that I received recently when the Hungarian embassy registered my English birth in Hungary
I was with a few people who they were not letting in. Most had address and registration cards of some type.
They were being told they had to email the chief of police and he was looking at it on a case by case basis
I know of others who have been in the airport 2 days

there was also a Dutch couple where the wife was Hungarian and they had lived here for 21 years and they were not letting the husband in which I thought they would

wolfi Mar 19th 2020 8:22 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Good news:
It seems that at least some "foreigners" could leave Ferihegy airport:
https://bbj.hu/coronavirus/dozens%20...pdated)_180044

2017sunshine Mar 19th 2020 8:59 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Wolfi, Thank you for the update 😂

scrubbedexpat142 Mar 19th 2020 8:58 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Some clarification -

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...8691e49985.jpg

enter Mar 20th 2020 2:20 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Keszthely Korhaz, does anyone know if all outpatient appointments are
cancelled?

scrubbedexpat142 Mar 20th 2020 4:25 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by enter (Post 12824046)
Keszthely Korhaz, does anyone know if all outpatient appointments are
cancelled?

Google translation of their website -

"In view of the health situation caused by the coronavirus (COVID-19), Keszthely Hospital informs the population about:As of March 16, 2020, programmed, non-urgent, electrical cases, interventions, and surgeries are suspended indefinitely.

The visit ban imposed for an indefinite period continues, without prejudice to the fundamental rights of patients.

Outpatient clinics review the number of patients booked and their appearance, thus avoiding waiting room congestion. Of course, in urgent and urgent cases, you can visit specialist orders.

We would like to inform the public that as of March 16 , 2020, the operation of the Diabetology Specialist Services will be suspended indefinitely.

If your complaints are mild and non-serious, affecting your life expectancy, please contact your GP first, and your GP on call in the event of an emergency, for the SBO to function smoothly. If you are experiencing a fever upper respiratory catarrhal complaint, please contact first by phone (GP, GP).

Because of the long incubation period of COVID-19 virus, doctor-patient encounters pose risks to hospital staff and patients who may and may not be urgently required for health reasons.

All of these measures have been taken to slow the spread of the epidemic in the interest of patient workers."




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