anyone moving to Hungary for political reasons?
Jul 20th 2024 | 9:42 pm
#31
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Re: anyone moving to Hungary for political reasons?
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anyone moving to Hungary for political reasons?
I doubt that anyone from western Europe will be moving to Hungary for political reasons. IMO most if not all will be moving for life style choices.
On the other hand my wife left Hungary for political reasons twice, once as a child with her family in '56. They were placed in a refugee camp in Austria until a country was found who would accept them. They managed to get a sponsor in England and so were allowed to go there. Once there her father was given a job (not offered - given, no choice) How different to todays (mis)management of the migrant crisis across Europe (inc. UK)
After 10 years half her family decided to return to Hungary (prompted by divorce) where she lived for about 10 years by which time she had become totally disillusioned with the corruption and control exerted by the state, she managed to get a passport for a holiday (passports had to be approved by the local party leader) and went on her 'holiday' to England not to return until the regime changed. (of course she was given a prison sentence in her absence for failing to return which was later cancelled with an amnesty)
Following the downfall of the Ceaușescu régime in '89 which followed the change in Hungary and as we as a family were wanting a change we came to Hungary on a couple of visits to see if the changes were sufficient to allay her fears about returning. She decided she could cope with Hungary as it had become, and although the process of change was still incomplete as a family in 1994/95 we decided to move to Hungary - The rest as they say is History. This move was a life style choice.
There are, I would venture to suggest, a lot of people who would want to move for political reasons from the dictator régimes of Russia, China N. Korea and Iran if only those countries allowed proper freedom of movement. Very few seem to want to move from the 'west' to these countries. Perhaps renault could explain why.
anyone moving to Hungary for political reasons?
I doubt that anyone from western Europe will be moving to Hungary for political reasons. IMO most if not all will be moving for life style choices.
On the other hand my wife left Hungary for political reasons twice, once as a child with her family in '56. They were placed in a refugee camp in Austria until a country was found who would accept them. They managed to get a sponsor in England and so were allowed to go there. Once there her father was given a job (not offered - given, no choice) How different to todays (mis)management of the migrant crisis across Europe (inc. UK)
After 10 years half her family decided to return to Hungary (prompted by divorce) where she lived for about 10 years by which time she had become totally disillusioned with the corruption and control exerted by the state, she managed to get a passport for a holiday (passports had to be approved by the local party leader) and went on her 'holiday' to England not to return until the regime changed. (of course she was given a prison sentence in her absence for failing to return which was later cancelled with an amnesty)
Following the downfall of the Ceaușescu régime in '89 which followed the change in Hungary and as we as a family were wanting a change we came to Hungary on a couple of visits to see if the changes were sufficient to allay her fears about returning. She decided she could cope with Hungary as it had become, and although the process of change was still incomplete as a family in 1994/95 we decided to move to Hungary - The rest as they say is History. This move was a life style choice.
There are, I would venture to suggest, a lot of people who would want to move for political reasons from the dictator régimes of Russia, China N. Korea and Iran if only those countries allowed proper freedom of movement. Very few seem to want to move from the 'west' to these countries. Perhaps renault could explain why.
My wife moved to England in 1990 having met an English deaf guy when she lived in Budapest. She never got on with her mother-in-law who was German. Her father-in-law was Indian. My wife has Hungarian deaf friends who live in America, Sweden, Belgium and Greece. All moved for a better life.
Jul 20th 2024 | 9:53 pm
#32
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Re: anyone moving to Hungary for political reasons?
Moving to a democracy whose government could change every 5 years is a bit pointless.
Correction: moving from a democracy (purely for political reasons) to another democracy etc is a bit pointless.
Correction: moving from a democracy (purely for political reasons) to another democracy etc is a bit pointless.
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Jul 21st 2024 | 5:33 pm
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Re: anyone moving to Hungary for political reasons?
There are pull factors that will entice people to move to a democratic country where elected governments can change every 4 - 5 years - these may not be political pull factors
However
There are also push factors that cause people to want to move from dictatorial regimes (Russia et al) where the population are denied basic rights and where there is no choice about who governs will provide push factors that cause people to want to move to a democratic country. These IMO are political reasons. And IMO the numbers who would want to move are such that these states usually have restricted movements to prevent to many exits.
Of course you could have those who prefer to live in a dictatorial regime where that regime provides the political pull factors but there are not many who chose this (e.g. those with fanatical religious beliefs that prefer a dictatorial religious state such as Iran or the disbanded IS)
