What Will This Mean For Us All ??
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I think the threat of reciprocal action by the U.K.Goverment would at least get the agenda on the diplomatic table.If the situation is left as is without action or sanctions by the U.K. then in effect foreign owned property in Goa will be taken and handed to the corrupt officials who started this problem.Tit for Tat will not sort it out but the threat of it might!
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I think the threat of reciprocal action by the U.K.Goverment would at least get the agenda on the diplomatic table.If the situation is left as is without action or sanctions by the U.K. then in effect foreign owned property in Goa will be taken and handed to the corrupt officials who started this problem.Tit for Tat will not sort it out but the threat of it might!
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Why do you think the Guy who got executed in China got pushed to the back so quickly. They couldnt push it any further because diplomatic and trade relations could be damaged
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Errrr .... well I think theres a big picture to look at. The kind of picture that Governments look at. I'm not saying it's right, but thats the way the world is.
Why do you think the Guy who got executed in China got pushed to the back so quickly. They couldnt push it any further because diplomatic and trade relations could be damaged
Why do you think the Guy who got executed in China got pushed to the back so quickly. They couldnt push it any further because diplomatic and trade relations could be damaged
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Errrr .... well I think theres a big picture to look at. The kind of picture that Governments look at. I'm not saying it's right, but thats the way the world is.
Why do you think the Guy who got executed in China got pushed to the back so quickly. They couldnt push it any further because diplomatic and trade relations could be damaged
Why do you think the Guy who got executed in China got pushed to the back so quickly. They couldnt push it any further because diplomatic and trade relations could be damaged
In Spain at the moment in certain areas the Junta's are declaring ex pats houses on the costas illegal. They are giving out demolition notices, 8 more issued over Christmas. These people have to pay for the demolitions of their own homes.
The Valencia Land Grab Laws allowed developers for years to take peoples homes on land which they chose to develop. In some areas people had their gardens taken, and roads built on it, and to add insult to injury they had to pay part of the fees for the road.
This is Europe, not India.
Do you see the British Government taking action to stop it, or maybe threatening to knock down Spaniards Houses in the UK??
No, of course not and you never will because unfortunately theres more at stake than a bunch of expats lifelong dreams in Spain.What I'm trying to say is that if the UK wont take action against the Spanish, their close neighbours then they are certainly never going to take action against Indian nationals in the UK because of possible trade and diplomatic relations being damaged
I dont really see what me owning a Goan house has to do with it, I know all about the terrible problems that they face in Goa
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...Do you see the British Government taking action to stop it, or maybe threatening to knock down Spaniards Houses in the UK??
No, of course not and you never will because unfortunately theres more at stake than a bunch of expats lifelong dreams in Spain.
What I'm trying to say is that if the UK wont take action against the Spanish, their close neighbours then they are certainly never going to take action against Indian nationals in the UK because of possible trade and diplomatic relations being damaged
No, of course not and you never will because unfortunately theres more at stake than a bunch of expats lifelong dreams in Spain.What I'm trying to say is that if the UK wont take action against the Spanish, their close neighbours then they are certainly never going to take action against Indian nationals in the UK because of possible trade and diplomatic relations being damaged
Now take India as a whole and then Goa as a part. They are a very small part of the Indian continent. Why would the UK government risk their trade agreements with India for a tiny little province which has ripped of a few (to them anyway) Brits when they won't intervene in hostage taking in Afganistan, piracy in Somalia or human rights atrocities in Zim? The only difference is that the above named countries have nothing the British Government want (trade, oil etc.). We are no more than an insect bite on a cows bum to them.
And before anyone shouts me down I do have a vested interest in getting justice and my property - I just try to be a realist.

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Well said Daff!
No smart-arsed remarks, Just well said Daff.
No smart-arsed remarks, Just well said Daff.
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No Mitz, J5 was paying me a compliment by not giving his usual acerbic replies. He was referring to himself and his sometimes smart arsed (his words not mine) replies to other posts. I find your input in relation to the Spanish land grab very valuable. Nice to know we are not the only ones who got ripped off. Just the latest batch of trusting Brits.
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I would like to attempt to put some perspective on this discussion if I can. From what I can see it is only in Goa that this mess is happening. I believe that there are few problems at the moment with people buying in other states in India, at least retrospectively, provided they comply with FEMA. This is a land/money grab in Goa along the lines of the Spanish ones that Mitzboy cited.
Now take India as a whole and then Goa as a part. They are a very small part of the Indian continent. Why would the UK government risk their trade agreements with India for a tiny little province which has ripped of a few (to them anyway) Brits when they won't intervene in hostage taking in Afganistan, piracy in Somalia or human rights atrocities in Zim? The only difference is that the above named countries have nothing the British Government want (trade, oil etc.). We are no more than an insect bite on a cows bum to them.
And before anyone shouts me down I do have a vested interest in getting justice and my property - I just try to be a realist.

Now take India as a whole and then Goa as a part. They are a very small part of the Indian continent. Why would the UK government risk their trade agreements with India for a tiny little province which has ripped of a few (to them anyway) Brits when they won't intervene in hostage taking in Afganistan, piracy in Somalia or human rights atrocities in Zim? The only difference is that the above named countries have nothing the British Government want (trade, oil etc.). We are no more than an insect bite on a cows bum to them.
And before anyone shouts me down I do have a vested interest in getting justice and my property - I just try to be a realist.


Agree with all you have said. I have also purchased property in Goa in 2004. I conformed with FEMA and all the rules, but never in a million years would have thought it could be taken away from me. From what I have heard no one's property as been taken so far. What fears me is the fact that visas could be stopped at will, the way this 2 month gap has been brought in says it all with stopping access when it suits. I know I should not say this but I hope it comes back and bites (the Goan Gov) in the bum.
They will learn the hard way like the Marriott did, when people walk with their feet and they lose money. Money is the only thing they understand. When there are no tourists there only the odd Russian and they don't spend money as they are living well above their means when in Goa. Maybe the Goan Gov will take stock and have a rethink in all of this, and that is not to "kill the golden goose that laids the golden egg."
The next thing is the major tour operators would be pulling out. Many locals will have to go back to fishing for a living, Goa would be going backwards instead of forwards.
Just hope that the powers that be see common sense and move with the times.
Sunglow.
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Hi Daff,
Agree with all you have said. I have also purchased property in Goa in 2004. I conformed with FEMA and all the rules, but never in a million years would have thought it could be taken away from me. From what I have heard no one's property as been taken so far. What fears me is the fact that visas could be stopped at will, the way this 2 month gap has been brought in says it all with stopping access when it suits. I know I should not say this but I hope it comes back and bites (the Goan Gov) in the bum.
They will learn the hard way like the Marriott did, when people walk with their feet and they lose money. Money is the only thing they understand. When there are no tourists there only the odd Russian and they don't spend money as they are living well above their means when in Goa. Maybe the Goan Gov will take stock and have a rethink in all of this, and that is not to "kill the golden goose that laids the golden egg."
The next thing is the major tour operators would be pulling out. Many locals will have to go back to fishing for a living, Goa would be going backwards instead of forwards.
Just hope that the powers that be see common sense and move with the times.
Sunglow.
Agree with all you have said. I have also purchased property in Goa in 2004. I conformed with FEMA and all the rules, but never in a million years would have thought it could be taken away from me. From what I have heard no one's property as been taken so far. What fears me is the fact that visas could be stopped at will, the way this 2 month gap has been brought in says it all with stopping access when it suits. I know I should not say this but I hope it comes back and bites (the Goan Gov) in the bum.
They will learn the hard way like the Marriott did, when people walk with their feet and they lose money. Money is the only thing they understand. When there are no tourists there only the odd Russian and they don't spend money as they are living well above their means when in Goa. Maybe the Goan Gov will take stock and have a rethink in all of this, and that is not to "kill the golden goose that laids the golden egg."
The next thing is the major tour operators would be pulling out. Many locals will have to go back to fishing for a living, Goa would be going backwards instead of forwards.
Just hope that the powers that be see common sense and move with the times.
Sunglow.




