The point your missing is that as India becomes "Developed" the drugs, crime and corruption is getting much greater and India appears to be turning a blind eye.. India boasts at being the worlds second fastest growing economy, the fastest growing middle class and sells Goa as its no.1 tourist destination. Yet it doesnt have adequate lifeguards along its beaches (i myself have witnessed two drownings over the years), the russian and israeli mafia are running the drugs and prostitution racket overtaking the nigerians and Goa is simply not doing enough about it. Many locals have been complaining about this exact thing for years. India is a Nuclear Power and involved in the international Space Race so it can't pull the 'third world' card whenever it suits.

Now, Tourists should not expect special treatment but they deserve to be treated as guests afterall Britain has for years welcomed Indians into its culture and treated them well. I myself am of Indian origin and my father moved here from the Punjab many years ago so i know this to be true. Britain is not without its faults but it is one of the least corrupted countries in the world. The Police in Goa/India are very corrupt and dont appear to have the peoples best interests at heart......there is no excuse for cover-ups, bribery and corruption and unforgivable to dismiss rape and murder as 'accidental death'. They are paid be the state to deliver a service and do a job....if they cant do this then they should at the very least be dismissed. There is no excuse for incompetance. There has to be transparency and accountability in any democratic society and i dont have to remind you that India boasts the worlds largest Democracy.

Yes I do read, and I said I was waiting for the first comment ....... so I could treat it with disdain!! Dont even dare to suggest it was her own fault!!!! No one deseves that.

Why do you pick England. I live in Spain and there are drug addicts everywhere, people smoke pot in the street. We have gangs of Romainians and Russians roaming the street and mugging people.

Again, if what you are saying is you think that people should accept that people can be murdered on the street in Goa, or indeed in any country then its that kind of attitude that is deplorable isn't it?

after living in goa for the last 2 3/4 yrs my children schooling here.
i have over the last couple of yrs a lot of difference in how the goans/indian have started treating/reacting to expats and foreign tourists.
i do not do drugs and i am not a hippy my family and lots of couple like us have just to goa for a peaceful life.
i do not think goa is safe for any one not just women, this yr alone there has been 27 deaths, 11 of which were british a large portion of which was men,
travelling on my scooter from calangute home the other night, i was followed on a motorbike, asked if i wanted drugs, then did i want sex, when i just shook my head in reply, he cut me off and would not let me pass most of the way home it was only when a jeep cut me off i made a quick u turn, scary and im in my 40s and fat so how is any one safe

Marcus: if you know Goa at all you will know that even the suggestion of the rape of a minor is not something Goa is used to. If it is true, there is no excuse for it occurring no matter what the circumstances or events leading up to. Your insinuation that Goans find this tragedy acceptable is completely untrue and reflects a superficial knowledge of Goa. If Goa is indeed Goa, the truth will come out and honesty and justice will prevail.

i agree with you that rape and murder is not acceptable in any country under any circumstances, & the police force is there to protect the general public goans and tourist alike, not to hide evidence,
the problem with goa is that all the police and government officials require backhanders to enfore any law.
in most countries you can reley on law and order, rules and regulations of the land, you know what is required of yourself and others, but in goa there no implementation of any law, unless it is to suit themselves.
:curse:

you are all missing my point,it is a disgrace what is happening in goa,and things should be done about it,but goa is goa and nothing will change that that is why when you go there you have to have that understanding of the place,its not safe to walk on the beach in the early hours,what makes me angry is that you westerners go to goa expecting everything to be the same as your countries,i can only give a example of how bad england is because i have witnessed its bad behavior,i honestly say i feel safer walking the streets of goa on the nights then walking the streets of lets say moss side.or other housing estates in england,but thats one of my main points its happening everywhere,not just goa,its just that you dont understand goa is corrupt,it will change eventually,when enough westerns invade it put up all property prices,and it will be a nice little safe haven for you all,but that for me will not be goa anymore

dear mrmarcus....
putting up the property prices.. don't make me laugh !
is it the fns who are selling ?
all i know is goa is now in big trouble as the gutter press
are gonna look for/ hear, more and more horror stories about the place while
they are knocking back there peter scot .
this latest tale is being told on radio 1, sky news, itn news , bbc
ect ect, i hope youre not employed in the tourist trade matey boy
rip

1} The only place in the world I have been offered drugs is Goa. :curse:

2) Let me sell my property which I have the deeds for and I will, but no
we have to do 183 days. and the visa will not allow it.
We spend at least 5 lacs a season in and around Candolim, we ask for
nothing from your Government. UK gives people housing, social money
free schooling and free health. :curse:

3) England is not safe but our police are not corrupt and we do not have to
pay them backhanders to get murders sorted, or quoshed Neither d o we have to pay to join the police.

4) 99% of tourists coming to the UK are not ripped off - Candolim is a disgrace this year. The shops are altering prices, the taxi's are ripping you off.

5) We British think UK is dirty, but by god they should come here, most people are saying that Goa is dirtier this year.

As for Scarlett my heart goes out to here family - but I would not have left my daughter on her own in Anjuna or anywhere else at here age. Tantrum or not.
Her mum has a lot to live with now.

Do me a favour ...........

You think, presumably, that no one should do anything about it and you'd prefer it to be corrupt?

If I'm not mistaken I might have a little bit more experience of the UK than you, much as you obviously know Goa and I dont.

In 52 years of living in the UK I never actually saw an act of vioence such as this and I spent my youth in the streets of Birmingham. Theres crime about for sure but (as you say) every country you go to there is bad behaviour, its modern culture I'm afraid

If other countries were the same as England then a lot of wouldn't bother moving to those countries, its for the change of culture that I came to Spain. But for Gods sake I dont condone the illegal seizing of legitimate housing here for building purposes, and the corruption in the town halls. You cant just sit back and say people shouldn't try to change these things. Stopping the Goan Police force from blatently covering up a murder isn't trying to make things like it is in England. Its just basic human decency to be honest and not put tourism first!! If the Goan police force was more effective and, presumably, not corrupt then perhaps it would be safer to walk on the beaches in Goa at night!

do you not know about economics,the more rich people that move into a area ie tourists the more the price goes up.and no im not in the tourist trade i just witness whats going,and most of the property sold in goa is by foreign agents so get your facts right sunshine

well honeybee let me say you must of held a sheltered life,i think i have been offered more drugs in english pubs then anywhere in goa,and secondly about being ripped of in england,as soon as you step out of heathrow and get into a taxi your ripped off,as soon as you go into a shop a buy something your ripped off,the whole of england is a rip off.so dont say no one gets ripped off in england.:curse::curse::curse:

what happens elsewhere is no benchmark for what is right or wrong. The fact is that the Goa administration (past and present) have lost touch with reality and cannot protect or serve Goans or anyone who comes to Goa. In every sphere, whether health, safety, the environment or law, society has been failed in Goa. Goa has changed so fast nothing is relevant any more other than individual interests. It is the new lawless frontier, and Scarlett's tragedy is the most publicised illustration of this new reality. Decades,of clean air and water, plannd cnstruction, respect for 'personal space' are being submerged by the onslaught of interests who have discovered the last remaining land available on the subcontinent. Goans themselves have only recently come to realise this new reality.

mr marcus or whoever you are........ I like many on here have been visiting Goa for over 15 years and Goa is'nt Goa anymore.

Ref being ripped off.....Britain has fixed prices for everyone and one price for all.......in Goa the price depends on the colour of your skin.......in the rest of Europe this is not only blatant racism but illegal.

You cannot make comparisons between India and Britain ref corruption and expect anyone to believe for one minute that corruption in Goa is acceptable or should be tolerated......this is undemocratic and uncivilised. For years Goan politicians have pocketed the states money and now the infrastructure is in a state of collapse. Landgrabbing and illegal constructions are rampant as are the pimps and druglords. Now we are witnessing Goa in a mindset of self-destruct.

Its not too late to save itself but this will never happen when corruption governs and the backhander rules the law of the land.

I have been on this site for over a year.......
Mitzyboy and Sue have always been the moderators and do a good job.

The mothers failings shouldn't hide the fact that a brutal rape and murder occured and that people witnessed it and done nothing and to rub salt into the wounds , the police then proceeded to cover it up.
OMG, yes the mother made big mistakes but murder is murder is murder.

Rapes are common place in Goa according to recent media articles and mainly go un-reported because of the attitude of the police. This fifteen year old loved to party and dabbled in stuff that she should'nt have......but that does not excuse what happened to her.