Has anyone else had a bad experience with a property company called Harman estates. ?? with uk contact PETER MARVEY. i paid £11.000 as a deposit on a villa in a development called sea breeze in morjim goa.due to illlness i had to pull out.since then the company have disappeared from the web.harman estates/peter marvey...based in ilford london are now offering property in thailand.when i looked into it. it would seem he is piggy-backing his deal/scam on the back of an offical development.any help would be great...thanks all

Welcome to BE, sorry to here of your problem. Unfortunately I have never heard of the company, but perhaps some of our other members will have.

When you have made three posts, you will be able to pm (private email)
Dreadsoc and give her your story, in complete confidence, she is collating all the property stories and scams for the BRIISH HIGH COMMISSION.
It is a long shot, but what else can we do. Have you read
Buyer beware?

How did you pay the deposit? Was it into a bank account? Did you have an advocate acting for you in this purchase? What documantation do you have pertaining to the sale? Do you have a sale agreement?

Your recourse will depend on all these factors and others as I'm sure more enlightened members of this forum will advise!

As an aside: If you google "Peter Marvey" you get a profile for a magician and illusionist. There are a lot of references to Macic acts and making things disappear! This may explain what happened to your money....

Julia x

Julia dear, do you think you should read your posts and have a long hard think about them before you commit them to posterity?

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Why should I dear Johnny? I've never heard of 'Peter Marvay' myself. Just performing handy internet search for stranger who posts on here - now thinking about it - probably a troll! And I have been suckered! But for every 10 trolls, there is probably a person genuinely in need of assistance. And yes I will provide to the best of my abilities, limited as they are!

Yes I got suckered! Johnny is OP you?

Conversely, I would rather be made a fool of by a troll, than refuse to give help to the best of my knowledge. If I have done my best I am happy and satisfied.

J x

i have bought in goa via a uk company before with no probs.harman had a very professional website..so i went to goa on holiday met with the 'indian company md' had a full tour of site left a very small deposit..signed contracts and came home happy..after further conversations with peter..sent first stage payment and awaited reciepts etc...guess what no receipt more bullshit and more pressure to pay more( bye the way on said visit met with harman lawyers to form company etc etc to make freehold blah blah)..very elaberate scam with many people involved..i pulled out (thank good to illness)

ps..i paid my deposit to peter as the uk agent..with further stage payments to be paid to the indian developer..HAVI HOMES INFRACSRTUCER PVT.LTD...I have contracts all emails and proof of monies paid etc..is it time to call the fraud squad on this uk based scammer..or shall i firebomb his uk address if he indeed lives there LOL...

and pps thanks julia for taking time to help a stranger...live long and prosper..XX

Whoa!
Pause for thought here.....
The name was Marvey, and the fact you've never heard of him means diddly-squat, a Google search means sweet f-all on a name, and the whole p*ss-take about magicians and making things dssappear was insensitive.

Troll? What on earth made you think that sydone1 is a troll? What have they said to give you that impression?

And I'm the O/P? And you've been suckered?

Quite honestly, having read this post carefully and the others you have posted in the last few days........you need help, Goa is getting to you like it does to a lot of people

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.....

Oh and although sydone maybe doesn't phrase things in a politically correct manner, he/she speaks for many foreigners without PIO who have been royally shafted in sunny Zimbabwe-on-Sea

First sentence might also be insensitive J5.
There is UK involvement, not just Goa, there are fraudsters in UK also but unfortunately money paid and contracts signed in Goa.
The remark by sydone: 'I have bought in Goa via a UK company before with no probs' is interesting one wonders when.

You are probably right Bipat, I hereby withdraw any "Best Wishes" expressed, innit?

As for UK involvement, I was under the impression that Sydone's (slowly unfolding) problem was that the money was paid in the UK to a British fraudster? Albeit hand in glove with the Indian end.

As to previous purchases, there have been many cases on various forums that indicate there are some Brits who have built up considerable portfolios of property in Goa over the past decade or so, and are blissfully unaware that it is probably no longer "owned" by them!

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A very valid and frightening point!!!

Hi Sydone 1

Welcome to BE.
I am part of a small team of people on BE, led by Lewis Belworth, who are collating information on the Goa property situation. Please can you pm me with details of what happened to you. I have personally not heard of Marvey so would be very interested in finding out more. Once I know your full story I can also advise you on what steps you are able to take using UK laws, but would not want to post such on open site for obvious reasons. You can send me the information using just your site name and I guarantee you confidentiality.
I woudl definitely suggest you take a read through the buyer beware thread too as you will find that you are one of many Brits experiencing these problems.

Additionally ITV Homes from Hell are investigating the Goa property scams. I think in your case it would be well worth you sending in your story as it is current. You will find the contact details on the contacts sticky at the top of the threads. You can also do this anonymously using your BE site name.

Look forward to receiving your information

Dread - x

I am nothing if not honest and if a fellow poster has been well and truly had I reel compelled to point that out. Insensitive as it may be, best he or she finds this out on an anonymous internet forum than goes to the papers or something where the whole world can laugh at their expense. Not that's what I was doing however, just trying to help!


In all honesty when I re-read this original post and saw someone had parted with a large sum of money to an illusionist - or a conman stealing the identity of an illusionist, I thought it was a wind-up. Perhaps not though!

I believe I am the sensible one here, warning the OP of the probable extent of the deception they have been subjected to. Not bleating on about insensitivities! The only thing I need help with right now is my electric supply which is off again - computer will crash soon! Love Goa though!

This is the sort of thing I was referring to, but never mind, the world needs more crazy people


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