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cbc Nov 18th 2011 3:26 am

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by Tina1 (Post 9740203)
At least if they are de sexed they cannot breed and produce the next generation of dogs.

Yes Tina that;s right, believe me I'm involved in this where I live and it works.
The biggest problem is the locals will not pay for the de-sexing, so if it upsets you all instead of culling please dig deep and pay for these local dogs to be done and YOU will see the numbers drop down every season.

noni Nov 18th 2011 3:37 am

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by Tina1 (Post 9740203)
At least if they are de sexed they cannot breed and produce the next generation of dogs.

Doesn't stop them biting you, and piddling on your beds. :nod:

cbc Nov 18th 2011 3:41 am

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 9740273)
The strays are around cos of the attitude of the locals to their dogs!

My neighbour has a 3 yr old bitch who has produced 18 puppies in 3 years!!!

I have offered to take her dog for sterilisation in my car 2 times now.....I`ve give up...she says she can`t afford it ...or that people who have un neutered male dogs should tie them up and not let them roam ......not suprising there are so many strays if this is the attitude of the owners.

I am a serious dog lover and it greives me to see these dogs scavenging...even dogs that have homes here with the Goans go scavenging as they are bottom of the chain and survive on left overs.

Culling during the Monsoon has to be bought back!!

Have you offered to drive her and the dog to the clinic only or have you offered to pay for it?
Please don;t give up, 18 pups/dogs over 3 years that will be hundreds of pups just from this one neighbour.
Where I live even though I know the local villagers have plenty of money they will not pay for the de-sex of there dogs and thats it.
Keep on at her, and insist its sorted out.
Culling is the last resort, its barbaric!

a_f_d Nov 18th 2011 3:55 am

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by cbc (Post 9740613)
Yes Tina that;s right, believe me I'm involved in this where I live and it works.
The biggest problem is the locals will not pay for the de-sexing, so if it upsets you all instead of culling please dig deep and pay for these local dogs to be done and YOU will see the numbers drop down every season.

If one bitch in 50 and one dog in 500 is missed you will not affect the numbers.

AndyD 8-)#

a_f_d Nov 18th 2011 4:03 am

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 9740391)
Maneka Gandhi who was responsible for stopping the culling when she was Minister for Animal Welfare ...

When I met the guy from IAR some years ago he was in touch with MG - there was some arrangement - maybe money, maybe visas; NOC's etc. I don't know.

MG is a way-out animal rights fanatic; she'd cull non-vegetarians before she'd cull dogs.

AndyD 8-)#

msj5 Nov 18th 2011 4:17 am

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by cbc (Post 9740637)
Have you offered to drive her and the dog to the clinic only or have you offered to pay for it?
Please don;t give up, 18 pups/dogs over 3 years that will be hundreds of pups just from this one neighbour.
Where I live even though I know the local villagers have plenty of money they will not pay for the de-sex of there dogs and thats it.
Keep on at her, and insist its sorted out.
Culling is the last resort, its barbaric!

This neighbour is not hard up !!

Just stupid!!!

Feel as if I`m banging my head on a brick wall!

Bipat Nov 18th 2011 4:27 am

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9740683)
When I met the guy from IAR some years ago he was in touch with MG - there was some arrangement - maybe money, maybe visas; NOC's etc. I don't know.

MG is a way-out animal rights fanatic; she'd cull non-vegetarians before she'd cull dogs.

AndyD 8-)#

Agree with you about MG, but who else with any power has done anything much positive for animal welfare? At least if she was made more aware of the problems in this particular state.??? I thought at least worth a try.

(No reply from my e-mail yet).

dreadsoc Nov 18th 2011 9:15 am

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 
It grieves me to see the packs of dogs, and so many of them.
I find it barbaric that these dogs are left to roam - they are diseased, they are mangy, they are hungry, they scavenge, they attack each other and humans, and they have a horrible existence. Worse still if they are injured they risk dying a painful and nasty death from infection and the like.
Nobody wants these animals, they are unhappy. Surely it is far more barbaric to leave them in this state than to humanely euthanase them?

Even de sexing them does not give the ones I have seen roaming in packs a better life.

Dread - x

Heidigirl Nov 18th 2011 9:55 am

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9740670)
If one bitch in 50 and one dog in 500 is missed you will not affect the numbers.

AndyD 8-)#

I am inclined to agree with you Andy.
H x

cbc Nov 18th 2011 12:06 pm

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by msj5 (Post 9740716)
This neighbour is not hard up !!

Just stupid!!!

Feel as if I`m banging my head on a brick wall!

They are never hard up, but the problem is they just don't care about the welfare of the dogs, keep banging on at her, call IAR and they will talk to her in her native tongue, they will de-sex them and give them the rabies shots etc and then your problem will stop.
Are the dogs registered in her name? if not you don,t need permission from her to de sex those dogs, just call IAR and report this problem, they can pick them up do the op and drop them of she probably would,nt even notice that its been done.

cbc Nov 18th 2011 12:11 pm

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by a_f_d (Post 9740670)
If one bitch in 50 and one dog in 500 is missed you will not affect the numbers.

AndyD 8-)#

I think you will notice the numbers, one bitch = approx 6-8 pups, 50 bitches = 300 + pups per season and that's alot of dogs.

cbc Nov 18th 2011 12:16 pm

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 9741193)
It grieves me to see the packs of dogs, and so many of them.
I find it barbaric that these dogs are left to roam - they are diseased, they are mangy, they are hungry, they scavenge, they attack each other and humans, and they have a horrible existence. Worse still if they are injured they risk dying a painful and nasty death from infection and the like.
Nobody wants these animals, they are unhappy. Surely it is far more barbaric to leave them in this state than to humanely euthanase them?

Even de sexing them does not give the ones I have seen roaming in packs a better life.

Dread - x

Call IAR they will, de-sex, treat them for mange, jab them up and the very poorly one's humanely put them down.

dreadsoc Nov 18th 2011 3:09 pm

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by cbc (Post 9741389)
Call IAR they will, de-sex, treat them for mange, jab them up and the very poorly one's humanely put them down.

Can you please put the telephone number of IAR on here - if they will still do this I shall certainly call them - they will be very busy in Calangute !

Dread - x

msj5 Nov 18th 2011 6:03 pm

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by dreadsoc (Post 9741533)
Can you please put the telephone number of IAR on here - if they will still do this I shall certainly call them - they will be very busy in Calangute !

Dread - x

International Animal Rescue.....0832 2268272 or 0832 2268328

Bipat Nov 18th 2011 7:38 pm

Re: Dogs on the Beach
 

Originally Posted by cbc (Post 9741379)
They are never hard up, but the problem is they just don't care about the welfare of the dogs, keep banging on at her, call IAR and they will talk to her in her native tongue, they will de-sex them and give them the rabies shots etc and then your problem will stop.
Are the dogs registered in her name? if not you don,t need permission from her to de sex those dogs, just call IAR and report this problem, they can pick them up do the op and drop them of she probably would,nt even notice that its been done.

I wonder how many 'owned' dogs are registered in India? I think she would notice the wound! and not very good for neighbourhood relationships to secretly whisk off their bitches :D Plenty of others to keep IAR going.

PS (Is it just me or does "In her native tongue" sound a little Blytonesque)
:unsure:


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