Originally Posted by wheatsheaf (Post 10067443)

Sorry Noni, but I am jumping in and replying to Bipat:

It is probably because of the publicity North Goa receives in the rest of India projecting the image erotic abandon, freedom and a local Goan population willing to sell their souls for a depreciating rupee. Ive also come across an element of envy which easily fuels bad behaviour. South Goa on the other hand has reacted to bad behaviour matching it with severe treatment of abusers, and it has always had the reputation of not compromising with poor attitudes even with the risk that comes with being overwhelmed in numbers. Word of mouth, cheap telephone access, the Indian tendency to embellish, and the total absence of any contra movement by local Goans in North Goa doesnt help. In fact, I am surprised by the latest movement of local Goans in North Goa, into hinterland villages where they themselves hope to to get away from the mess which is enriching them. There will come a time, sooner than later, when real Goans will be applying for UK residency when there is no where to hide from the crap.

Originally Posted by noni (Post 10067748)

" women lying on the beach in the equivalent of 'bra and pants' something completely alien to their family customs"
Bipat - you are on the wrong wave length again, one rule for one, and one for another! We ladies don't want to look at Indian men in their brownies, which look even worse when wet. 99.9% of other touists dont go around leering like these people do. The indian tourists have got into trouble for taking photo's on their phones of ladies in their bikini's and more worrying is they take photo's of little children.

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 10067791)

I am not quite sure I understand; why do you look then at the men in their underwear then?
(I must say as I have said before I have never seen these items of underwear).

Who are the 99.9 % of tourists? do you mean Indian tourists? My point was that these bikinis may be ordinary to us they are completely outside respectable Indian custom (for women) and some low-class men will stare.

Photos: on this forum I have read information to use a "long lens" when photographing Indian women as they "may not like it". and how many photos of little "brown eyed " Indian children appear on forum photo galleries. Yes you are right one rule for tourists and another for the savages/natives (as they seem to be viewed by some).

Originally Posted by noni (Post 10067824)

I can assure you I don't like to look at the brown undies, but when the dirty men come and stand by your sunbed whilst you are minding your own business reading you cannot help but look. Ugh! at least I can take my glasses off.

There is a difference in taking photo's of children when you have asked the parents permission.

Low class indians - wow! how can they afford these expensive camera phones?

How would you like me to address Indians? I think Savages is derogatory term.

Originally Posted by noni (Post 10067673)

Totally agree with you Wheat! The North probably attracts these types of Indians as it has more "night life" When we started going to the North, it was quiet like in the south. Wish it would go back to those days.

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 10067865)

Do you really think those photographers ask permssion, come on now?

"Savages" the word has been frequently used in recent posts by one poster and apparently accepted.

Lets leave it there Noni. I can't change your general view of "Indians".

Originally Posted by Bipat (Post 10067865)

Do you really think those photographers ask permssion, come on now?

"Savages" the word has been frequently used in recent posts by one poster and apparently accepted.

Lets leave it there Noni. I can't change your general view of "Indians".

Originally Posted by stevebenaulim (Post 10068156)

WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT INDIAN???

GERONIMO, another savage.

Originally Posted by noni (Post 10068358)

Geronimo I believe was a Native American Apache. not an Indian, Indian! now they were called savages in the films.

Originally Posted by noni (Post 10068348)

I for one always ask the girls on the beach if I can take their photo's and those of the children - it is only good manners especially in this day and age of all the "pervs" a must. The girls love having their photo's taken, bring their children and half the village to the beach to have photo's taken, then we have them printed for them.

Originally Posted by noni (Post 10068348)

I for one always ask the girls on the beach if I can take their photo's and those of the children - it is only good manners especially in this day and age of all the "pervs" a must. The girls love having their photo's taken, bring their children and half the village to the beach to have photo's taken, then we have them printed for them.

Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 10068419)

India is the only place I have visited where persistently and consistently money is sought for the privilege of taking a photo.

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Originally Posted by johnny five (Post 10068419)

India is the only place I have visited where persistently and consistently money is sought for the privilege of taking a photo.

Now there's a custom and sensibility we are all familiar with.........

the outstretched hand.


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