Bipat

It is the European Court of Human Rights, we signed up to the Convention after the war. Nothing to do with the European Union.
As I said Theresa May is doing her best to get assurance on the use of 'evidence gained from torture'.

dreadsoc

Agree - he and his family should be sent home - which illustrates the very aspect of the Human Rights Act I find offensive !
This scumbag and his like recruit vulnerable people to send out to training camps to be brainwashed into suicide bombers and terrorists!
He is another sicko that we tolerate - I bet to hell that none of the other European countries would keep him - they would deport him like a shot !

Dread - x

Bipat

Because Noni you put so many posts on this thread from the DM about Muslims; equating them with 'Indians in general' and often reaching an inaccurate conclusion.
See your above post --- "99.9% and unfortunately Indians"

The balloon is just an apparently factual report about which I have no personal knowledge.
I would be terrified to go up in a balloon and never, never on one of those balloons from the beach in Goa.

I was therefore actually being sarcastic about Jordan in my last post. No excuse for that. Apologies.

a_f_d

According to Jewish / Old Testament law, previously accepted by western Christian societies (for centuries) 'A husband should not beat his wife with a stick thicker than his thumb'.

AndyD 8-)#

a_f_d

Bipat, while I am in general agreement with your comment most Brits still follow the Churchillian definition - I seem to recall this has been discussed before - 'India' = 'Indian sub-continent'; after all nearly all 'Indian' restaurants in the UK are Pakistani / Bangladeshi (and Independence+Partition was a rushed botched job).

AndyD 8-)₹

gregit

Sounds a great law, ha,ha still wish we (Christians) had one to make them (women) keep a bag on their head, and be able to stone them when they get out of line

johnny five

Bloody Muslims!


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johnny five

They are parascending Mattress-type parachutes, not balloons.


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Veritas1

Goa budget details from today's Herald

http://heraldingoa.blogspot.in/2012/...ghts.html#more

Veri

noni

Yes. and most of them, we the british public are financing, through housing and benefits whilst our own go without.

dreadsoc

I was not even born then so certainly was not one of the 'we'.

The fact is this - the world has changed completely from when the convention was agreed - today's terrorist is different in that they have no fear about killing themselves in the process.
These dispicable individuals infiltrate Western societies, particularly the UK, sponge off the taxpayer to the tune of millions, then actively preach hate and contribute to the atrocities committed against the very countries they have CHOSEN to live in, and those same countries who have given them money, health care, educated their kids etc. Personally having seen first hand what they stand for it sickens me to the core !

The convention is now out of date and needs to change in order to deal with the current most dangerous human threat to the Western world......... which is the MUSLIM TERRORIST. To do otherwise merely infringes upon the human rights of every other citizen within the UK and other countries.

I have not forgotten the carnage and horror of the London bombings which I worked on for several months at the worst end of things. Nor have I forgotten the plot that caused such massive changes to security at airports where some 2o or so planes were to be blown up in transit. Nor have I forgotten the plots to blow up nightclubs, St Pauls, top tourist spots, and many many others - Slag the Met police all you like but thank your lucky stars that the Met Police Anti Terrorist Branch stopped these other things from taking place, and next time Liberty bang on about people in Belmarsh, think about what most of those in there had intended to do - then ask yourself if you want people who plot and INTEND to do these things let loose on the UK streets?.
Those are the atrocities which Abu Qatada and his ilk recruit people to do - and that is what they go to training camps in Pakistan and Afghan to be taught to do.

And for the moral PC Brigade - the above is FACT - not something read in the gutter press !

So who's happy now to fund Qatada's virtual million quid lifestyle per year?

Dread - x

Bipat

By "We" I meant the British. I didn't think you were personally responsible, neither was I.
You well know the history and why the Convention was drawn up following the atrocities of the last war.
My above post was pointing out that the Convention had nothing to do with the European Union, a common mistake.
I have several times said in posts on this Forum that the Convention needs updating.

dreadsoc

At last we agree on something !
Isn't that rather scary !!!

My point is that I believe no other European country would keep the likes of Qatada, they would deport them. I also believe that no other European country would house them, feed them or pay them benefits. Nor would other European countries tolerate demands for Sharia law - in fact France has even outlawed the wearing of bhurkas etc.
The UK has a legal aid system that allows untold funds for these criminals (who could even be called treasonists when considering the precise legal definition) to use every loophole possible to avoid deportation. It is that which does not sit well with me and shows a need for an overhaul of the current systems.

Dread - x






Dread - x

BEVS

Very scary.

That happened here in New Zealand just a couple of months ago. 11 people died.

Bipat

We have agreed before, I twice praised your post regarding "tarring with the same brush" ordinary Muslims.