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Old Jan 10th 2012 | 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Bipat
It is true, I have said before that Congress 'buys' their votes, they have the most money.
No I don't vote nor does OH (British Citizens). What is a "tweeker"? not sure of the definition.
only Congress? Really? That's Unbelievable! Literally!!!
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only Congress? Really? That's Unbelievable! Literally!!!
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No of course not only Congress; but they have vast amounts of money backing them, that makes the difference.
 
Old Jan 10th 2012 | 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Bipat
No of course not only Congress; but they have vast amounts of money backing them, that makes the difference.

I expect it is all parties, but the article was BJP. I still don't understand how they KNOW who voted for them and who has to return the gifts

A tweeker is a person who just holidays two weeks, or a very short time.
 
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Does Bipat vote then ? I thought she was a tweeker

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Now I know what it is thanks to Noni. No I am not a 'tweeker'.
We are only here for 10 weeks this time, but will be back in March, for another family 'need'. We have a home here in Karwar and go in and out of Goa staying for varying times for varied number of times a year, for the last 40 + years.
 
Old Jan 10th 2012 | 8:18 pm
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Go Goa before it goes


10 Jan: Hindustan Times. There’s a lot that lures us to Goa, not least of all running into old friends unexpectedly. Then there are the favourite haunts the lively Mapusa market on Fridays, where the locals bring their produce from the hinterland the charming neighbourhoods of Fontainhas, Saligao and Asagao, and the small shacks and restaurants that serve the most compelling home-style Goan cuisine


Indian milk widely 'contaminated'
10 Jan: BBC. More than two-thirds of Indian milk is adulterated with items ranging from salt to detergent and may be unsafe to drink, a government watchdog says… The survey said that only two states - Goa and Pondicherry - sold unadulterated milk, while all 250 samples from four eastern states were found to be contaminated with detergent

Expats, properties, home
11 Jan: Herald. By Frederick Noronha. The Catholic community probably has a larger section of its community outside Goa rather than with the State itself… December and January are the months when expats visit Goa … We have a love-hate relationship with them… Under Eduardo Faleiro, the NRI Commission improved … The biggest challenge facing the expats is their property. They have been treated very shabbily on this… Today expats are caught in a Catch 22 situation. If they hold on to their properties, its security is always under doubt. If they sell, they get disinherited (often for peanuts) from the land of their roots!

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Old Jan 12th 2012 | 4:27 am
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http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...?ncid=webmail1

Jeremy Clarkson upset Indian High Commission!
 
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Originally Posted by noni
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...?ncid=webmail1

Jeremy Clarkson upset Indian High Commission!
Perhaps he should have left the jag on the beach in Goa over the holidays then there may not have been so much mess left by Indian visitors who used the beach as a toilet.
 
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Perhaps he should have left the jag on the beach in Goa over the holidays then there may not have been so much mess left by Indian visitors who used the beach as a toilet.
I think it was the general tone which caused upset.
When 2 or 3 Indian people are gathered together, toilet humour is never far away!! 'Lack of'---'hygiene'---'communal in restaurants'---'the Moslem shower'--
'Western v Indian style'---'The minister caught short on the flight' etc. etc.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle2762889.ece

Hundreds came, we went to the beach next day and no mess (or perhaps the tide washed it away).
It is a problem to educate the public in general about personal responsibility for garbage (of any kind).
 
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Originally Posted by Bipat
I think it was the general tone which caused upset.
When 2 or 3 Indian people are gathered together, toilet humour is never far away!! 'Lack of'---'hygiene'---'communal in restaurants'---'the Moslem shower'--
'Western v Indian style'---'The minister caught short on the flight' etc. etc.

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper...cle2762889.ece

Hundreds came, we went to the beach next day and no mess (or perhaps the tide washed it away).
It is a problem to educate the public in general about personal responsibility for garbage (of any kind).
the article you linked was talking about people who booked rooms or wanted rooms, did you read the earlier linked newspaper articles about the state some of the North Goa beaches and roadsides were left in after the holiday weekend. A lot of the mess was apparently caused by people who were sleeping rough and used the beach and roadside as a toilet. As for the other toilet comments you must admit that the state of toilets in general in India is pretty poor, some of the ones I have had to reluctantly use when travelling were dire. One was a hole dug in the ground with a stand up type toilet fitted over it and no kind of drainage.
 
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Originally Posted by noni
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...?ncid=webmail1

Jeremy Clarkson upset Indian High Commission!
ToI has it-


... different interpretations of "lighthearted & idiosyncratic" I guess.
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the article you linked was talking about people who booked rooms or wanted rooms, did you read the earlier linked newspaper articles about the state some of the North Goa beaches and roadsides were left in after the holiday weekend. A lot of the mess was apparently caused by people who were sleeping rough and used the beach and roadside as a toilet. As for the other toilet comments you must admit that the state of toilets in general in India is pretty poor, some of the ones I have had to reluctantly use when travelling were dire. One was a hole dug in the ground with a stand up type toilet fitted over it and no kind of drainage.

Yes I read the articles and I agree North Goa suffers from this mass invasion, it is terrible and I sympathise.

Regarding toilets in general I can assure you that the situation is infinitely better than it used to be. I know there are still dreadful examples, but travelling with young children in the 70s it was sometimes sheer horror, particularly for women. Most did not drink when travelling. Some coach stops had just a 'shed' no actual toilet, you just -- 'did it'. Or the tin for the washing water with no base, I could go on.
I used to dream of an India with good toilets and for the most part they are much better.
 
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Of course the clamour for an apology comes from no less than Vaseline Vaz,the crusader for Indians in the UK. He, of course, will be accustomed to loos in five star hotels. The toilet in Panjim cop shop is beyond belief, as is the one in Asilo hospital.

The problem is that standards in the UK are different from, and superior too, Indian standards. Remember when there was an inspection of accommodation in the CWG village, when a senior member of the committee said exactly this. I believe.

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Originally Posted by wallydug
Of course the clamour for an apology comes from no less than Vaseline Vaz,the crusader for Indians in the UK. He, of course, will be accustomed to loos in five star hotels. The toilet in Panjim cop shop is beyond belief, as is the one in Asilo hospital.

The problem is that standards in the UK are different from, and superior too, Indian standards. Remember when there was an inspection of accommodation in the CWG village, when a senior member of the committee said exactly this. I believe.

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Yes Wally, but they haven't done too badly in improving them since the British were Governing the country. What were the loos like then ????
For that matter have you ever been in Coventry bus station loo? or Norwich railway station loo? An Indian rel. going in an underground Tooting loo came out (pale) and declaring they are the "same world over".
Perhaps we could start a "good loo" thread.
 
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Yes Wally, but they haven't done too badly in improving them since the British were Governing the country. What were the loos like then ????
For that matter have you ever been in Coventry bus station loo? or Norwich railway station loo? An Indian rel. going in an underground Tooting loo came out (pale) and declaring they are the "same world over".
Perhaps we could start a "good loo" thread.
the google advert below this was for a toilet seat cover! I expect they have a program that scans the content and puts in adds that are appropriate. I have used good and bad loos wherever I have been. France used to have some dreadful toilets but things are gradually improving there as well as in India. The loo in the cafe I go to in Mapusa is always dirty, if the loos were like that in a pub or cafe in the UK I would leave and go somewhere else.
 
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Originally Posted by k800mer
the google advert below this was for a toilet seat cover! I expect they have a program that scans the content and puts in adds that are appropriate. I have used good and bad loos wherever I have been. France used to have some dreadful toilets but things are gradually improving there as well as in India. The loo in the cafe I go to in Mapusa is always dirty, if the loos were like that in a pub or cafe in the UK I would leave and go somewhere else.
If you get caught short in Panjim the loos in Hotel Fidalgo are spotless!!!!
 


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