Only an idiot Indian newspaper could infer that bookings to Goa had dramatically dropped due to the UK riots..........buffoons!


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Almost as amusing as the use of the word 'mishap' !

Dread - x

Muslims demand Sharia student loans because paying interest goes against Islamic law

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1Vq4Ms29K

what a nerve.

Trust the Mail to make a big thing of this,it has been a problem for some time and there are Sharia compliant banks in the UK. It should be possible to work out a system for the students.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/uk...lamic-law.html

U.K.: Muslim groups demand Sharia-compliant student loans, because paying interest is against Islamic law

Yes Noni, my point was that this has been a problem for some time; it is in the news now because of the rise in interest rates. A system has been set up for religious Muslims to get mortgages, and which complies with their beliefs. It should be possible to do the same for student loans.

You are right Bipat, how would Muslims buy houses etc. Of course August is the 'silly' season for newspapers, not enough happening so they have to resort to items they wouldn't bother with the rest of the year. Lots of students run up large loans partly due to their lifestyle, our local University town is full of students most nights drinking and generally enjoying the nightlife. Muslim students will not be doing that one would hope as it would be against their Muslim laws so the loan debt that they finish Uni with should be lower. By the way, I have nothing against students enjoying the nightlife and drinking their loans, it brings money into the town centre and means that when we go to the Students Union bar we get real ale cheaper than the students are paying in town, its reasonably quiet and the food is not bad either.

I understand what you are saying, but this is also from your own paper


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/uk...lamic-law.html

I must say our students only held their religious beliefs when it suited them, the majority of them would go out drinking after their Friday prayers. But I will not get into an argument with you about that.

"own paper" what do you mean Noni, is it a student paper? I myself have never heard of it.
Agree with you about religious beliefs, this is true regarding, I would say all religions or religious groups. How many good Catholic girls who attend church take the 'pill', I know of plenty of Hindus who have eaten beef, many who attend temple just for 'social reasons', many Sikhs cut their hair and do not wear a turban. I must say I cringe when Nigella Lawson cooks pork, but then I think she is not a religious Jewish person.
On the other hand there are many who do comply with their particular rules. I don't think you can generalise.

when in Rome do as....comes to mind

Article in The Times today, read it in the pub so came home and found it on the internet.
I hope they throw the book at the company. We have enough problems without the caste system adding to it.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/law/article3142255.ece

Problem with the link! no you have to pay to read the Times. Why do you think I read the Mail. I get enough flack for reading that, imagine quotes from the Sun or Mirror You will have to tell us what you read.
Hope you enjoyed your glass of wine in the sun.

[QUOTE=noni;9576705]I understand what you are saying, but this is also from your own paper


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/uk...lamic-law.htm

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Noni, I am still wondering whose 'own paper' this is? Or is it from another daily paper? (I don't have a paper, I read the Telegraph because OH buys it and I am too mean to buy any other).

Solicitor and her husband allege caste discrimination made their lives a misery
Dominic Kennedy Investigations Editor
August 23 2011 12:01AM
To most people, the man in the witness box is a smartly dressed, university educated, well spoken young husband and father. But yesterday he told a tribunal what it is like to endure the centuries-old prejudice under the Indian caste system.
Once lauded as the successful practice manager for a legal firm, Vijay Begraj, 32, described how he was left devastated when his employers learnt that he was an “Untouchable” and had broken social taboos by marrying a colleague from a higher caste.
The insults and humiliation endured by people who cross this social divide were detailed in a tense encounter at an employment tribunal where the couple are making Britain’s first legal claim for wrongful dismissal on the grounds of caste discrimination.
Mr Begraj accuses his former employers, fellow British-born Indians, of prejudiced behaviour. They are from the higher caste of Jatts. His wife, Amardeep, 33, also a Jatt, says she was warned by the firm against marrying out of her caste then intimidated and victimised when she chose to.
Her husband is a Valmiki Hindu, a “caste whose historical occupation is cleaning . . . They were responsible for cleaning the gutters or removing any dead animals’ bodies. People from my caste do not generally admit to being from my caste,” he said.
His bosses in the Coventry-based law firm Heer Manak “are regarded as significantly higher caste than me,” said Mr Begraj, who started work in 2003. At first, he says, he was praised, told he was a valuable asset and became popular with staff and clients. In 2007 a colleague said a client “looked, dressed, smelt and acted like a chura chamar”, offensive terms for Untouchables.
When Mr Begraj said he was from that caste his colleague allegedly said: “You are lucky. You are a manager in this country. Otherwise you would be a cleaner in India.” From then on, his colleague called him the “caretaker” in front of staff and clients, “which I found humiliating and distressing”, Mr Begraj said. “My position in the practice began to change. They would find faults with my work. The tone towards me was aggressive and abusive.”
When he told a boss that he was to marry Amardeep, a solicitor in the office, he was warned that a partner, Robin Heer, had been part of a gang who located girls who married out of their caste and returned them to their parents by threat or force. Mr Heer denies the allegation.
After the couple married and had a baby Mr Begraj says the firm tried to persuade him and his wife to resign. He claims that in 2009 he was seriously assaulted by two nephews of one of the partners, Kulwant Singh Manak.
“I was called derogatory names such as chura,” he said. “I was told I should resign.” Mr Begraj said that he was repeatedly kicked and punched.
An envoy from Heer Manak allegedly told him to drop his claim, stating: “We Asians should not be washing our dirty laundry in British society”.
Mr Begraj said that he feared for his family’s safety and his career had been destroyed.

The hearing continues.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-c...4619926?ref=nf

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