I said many, not any and yes I am guilty of 'tarring many with the same brush', but there are so many posts showing antipathy to 'domestic tourists', 'out of state Indians' as though they had no place in their own country.
I would not feel comfortable in a north Goan restaurant with any Indian friends or rels. after reading these posts. If a British expat walked in I would be assuming (usually wrongly I admit, that they were thinking the men might start exhibiting their disgusting primitive behaviour to us "women folk", (after all Noni you yourself said this was 'general behaviour'),
It is a pity, but I now look with different eyes at British people we come across in Goa and I know for the vast majority of Brits. that is absolutely unfair. So for all our sakes we will be in the south, subject closed.

Sadly Bipat the north of Goa is like a magnet to domestic tourists!

They are not used to the free availability of cheap alcohol wherever they come from!
It is fact that the bus loads of men come to ogle and photograph the European women.
I was once on Morjim beach for a nice walk(not another person in sight) -a bit earlier in the year than this when a jeep load of drunken men appeared
......I made a hasty retreat!

These domestic tourists put everyone`s lives at risks riding scooters around with bottles of beer in hand !Plus wife and 2 kids on the scooter!!!!
The lifeguards have had a nightmare of a time over Diwali saving drunken "domestic" tourists!

I think that the younger generation of domestic tourists come to Goa for the alcohol and Casinos and Night clubs!

Followed a jeep yesterday...driver obviously drunk..2 young women stood up hanging on to roll cage each with a bottle of wine in hand!!!

Need i say more Bipat!!I`ve no problem with domestic tourists enjoying there country but we would not behave like this in the UK!!!!!!!!!!

I know what you mean, that is what I was referring to when I used the word
"riff-raff" previously. What, I think, I was trying to convey (probably mainly to Noni) is that this is not 'general' behaviour of Indians. Most Indians rich or poor would be appalled at such behaviour. It also unfortunately occurrs in nightclub areas of Delhi particularly, but also Mumbai and Pune, where there they are often well-off students and this nowadays even leads to the unwanted pregnancies and abortions that we are used to in UK. It is a long way from the days when rels. would not let their student children visit their cousins in UK in case they got corrupted!!!

I have no problem whatsoever with the domestic tourists we usually get who come to stay in the resort as couples or families as they are friendly and polite and the children are lovely. Our resort will not take groups of males now because of the drunken rude behavior.

Thank you for that! there are also the men (and only MEN) who go to places like little Vagator on Sundays for a picnic - leave all the tins, BBQ mess, and broken glass all over the beach, then drive absolutely plastered.

There is nothing nicer seeing the locals playing with their young children on the beaches, unless they are the beggers.

The UK has the 'lager lout'........
Germany has the early morning sunbed stealers............
India has the 'brown pants pxssheads'..................
Russia has the 'vodka for brekkie' no neck no brains...........

Only real difference is the style of underpants !!!!!

Whichever nationality - not a pretty sight...or a pleasant encounter !

Dread - x

Brown pants pXXXXXXheads throwing their broken bottles into the sea, not really bown pants are they they are s**t colour drab.

They don't look pretty when worn wet and adorning a drunken letch !!!!

Dread - x

The northern beaches have changed as everywhere does but it is very difficult to generalise about them all as they are so different. Calangute and Baga beaches are different from Arambol and Querim. They offer different things to different people and are certainly not full of drunks and voyeurs. You have to go to Torquay and Paignton for that!
The domestic holiday market has increased and the traffic during Diwali has been terrible but there still are beautiful beaches, lovely people and wonderful inland villages. All is not completely lost up here!

Good to hear a positive opinion.

I've never been North, my parents live in Carmona in the South. The beach there is Zalor Beach - although Varca are trying to claim it as theirs. It's so peacfull and beautiful. Just 2 shacks and say 12 beds to each shack. The rest is clear for miles as the Indian army own the rest right down to Cavalosim. Lying in your sunbed you can hear a pin drop.

Personally I find that little bit of beach between Ashwem and Morjim quite pleasant - although last year there were a couple more shacks up so it probably will change.

I find Calangute hideous, but there is a stretch of Baga I like where the shacks are spaced out and set back.
Keri beach - beautiful
Agonda - marvellous
Varca - lovely
Colva - not bad

Got put off Arumbol when I saw a family of Isreali's literally shxt in the sand next to their table in one of the shacks - well and truly put me off my meal and made me tread very carefully when walking the sands !!!

Dread - x

Dread - x

Ashwen - Morjim - no s ^^T COLour drab undies - just nudies. does not matter if you forget your cossie, msj5 hope you had your cossie on -

I know a few people have asked, but I am reliably informed that Bayview shack in Candolim is open, including the kitchen