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Hi all,

Just wondering, what will happen if GB leaves the EU? Will I have to give up my French nationality if I want to remain British? :confused:

Which passport is best and why? Any advice is welcome.

Cheers

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Hi BP
Do you currently have dual nationality?
There are more french citizens living in France than UK citizens in France therefore in that event it would be in the interests of both countries to reach agreement on several issues including rights of citizens.
UK citizens could live and work in France prior to the EU but they had to apply for a carte de séjour.
IMHO it is not worth worrying about at this time because a) it may not happen. b) it would take possibly several years to untangle membership and current legislation etc. during which time people affected by any changes could deal with those changes.
If the UK was to leave the EU then this would be an unprecedented situation regarding rights (e.g. pension rights) of citizens and I think that it would be unlikely that rights currently enjoyed by UK citizens would be withdrawn - but what do I know?

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Whether or not Britain is in the EU has nothing to do with multiple nationalities.

If you were Indian and acquired British nationality, the Indian government would remove your Indian nationality. If you were American and acquired British nationality, neither the British nor US governments give a dämn. The last time I checked neither India nor the US were in the European Onion.

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Neither the US nor India were mentioned by anyone else in the thread so I can only assume happy hour is early in Pulaskiworld

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They are examles of countries that are not in the EU with Britain, proving that you may, or may not, be able to hold dual nationality irrespective of EU membership.

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Whatever Pulaski's happy hour is, I'll willingly join him (if only to coax him into changing his avatar) - a face which I keep wanting to smack. ;)

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Never! :lol:

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I've wondered for some time who it is. Pulaski himself or someone famous (but unknown to me)?
Bp's question has never occurred to me for my own or my daughters' dual nationalities, but there's no point in worrying until the problem actually arises....

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You appear to live in the ONLY country in the world (France) where Top Gear was not shown on television. :rofl:

FYI :)

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Sorry, never heard of it, but Wikipedia says there's been a French version on a French Discovery Channel (Satellite TV) since March this year.
But it's one little mystery solved....

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"Versions" are pathetic shadows of the original, we have one in the US. ..... You need proof? Amazon recently signed a $160 million contract with the three presenters and the executive producer of the original Top Gear, to make 36 episodes ($4.5million per episode! :blink:) of a new show, rumoured to be called "Gear Knobs". :lol:

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Actually I'm about to ask for my British passport (dad is a geordie but never married my French mum and I was born in France) but wonder will I have to choose later between French nationality and British nationality if GB leaves the EU :huh:

OK the passport is only £80 but don't want to waste my money :lol:

I heard you could visit more countries and stay longer (i.e. New Zealand: 3 months as a French tourist but 6 for a British person) when you have a British passport and that it was one of the best in the world. That's why I'm wondering!

Will probably get it anyway, I'm very excited!! Can't wait to be officially 'British'!

EDIT: Of course, many EU citizens are now asking how to get British Citizenship to obtain the highest level of security and are willing to pay the Home Office fee of £1,005 for the benefit.

How expensive!!

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I already had a look and couldn't find the answer.. the rush seemed to be the other way round (brits who want EU passports)

ps: don't be so resentful :)

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Why are you still wondering? :confused: For starters go and Google "European Economic Area", because that is why there is freedom to live and work anywhere in Europe, including in Switzerland, Norway, Iceland, and Lichtenstein, which aren't even in the European Onion.

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If you born in France, your British father never married your French mother and you were born before 1 July 2006 then you'll need to register as a British citizen before you apply for your British passport.

https://www.gov.uk/register-british-...british-father

And no, you won't need to choose between your French and British citizenship if the UK leaves the EU. The two are unrelated and both French and British nationality law allow dual citizenship.

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Yes I know but apparently many Brits in the EU and EU citizens in the UK are about to ask a new passport to remain in the country and so I believe maybe the government would like to end dual nationality as well!

Front national in France also wants the end of dual nationalities because of terrorism and so on.

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There's no accounting for ignorance. :rolleyes:
Which has nothing to do with Britain leaving the EU.

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Or she could get one of these ones for nowt...

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Or one of these. ;)
https://sp.yimg.com/xj/th?id=OIP.M18...=0&w=300&h=300
Rumour has it that they actually pay £80 for those people who want one....
:scarper:

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:rofl:

cheeky monkey!

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I wasn't being resentful - only vaguely humorous. Apparently the one they call 'Bev' didn't think so, and deleted my post. I wonder if 'Bev' bothered to actually understand my post at all?

Oh well. The world turns.

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We are not allowed to be funny when people can get offended, I also got some pm from Bevs.. Well you're only supposed to give straight facts.
It's a bit unfair though because other people made some off thread comments.

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I'm not sure I care too much for Bev's perceptions of who might be offended by what. It would seem somewhat unpredictable, and possibly guided by dyspepsia. I did look for the 'delete my profile' button, but there isn't one.

Perhaps if the one they call Bev happens across this post, she will oblige, and prod the secret red button which undoubtedly exists on some executive control panel only she has access to. Oh the power, the power!

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On looking further, I discover that in the 'Privacy Policy' of Internetbrands.com (who parent British Expats), I should have both the ability to deactivate my account, and the ability to delete it:

* - You may deactivate your profile at any time by visiting the preferences page for your profile.
* - You may close your account at any time by logging onto the site on which you are registered and navigating to your account.

Neither of these are available to me. Why is that?

Apologies for hijacking this thread, BTW.

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Send a private message to Bevs.

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I've sent a message to the forum adminstrator (who (s)he?) - we'll see what transpires.

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balding_potter, if you just stop posting on BE it will have the same result because even if your account is deleted, all of your posts will remain in order that old threads remain complete (I was going to say intelligible but that may be asking too much!)

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I have to say that the French forum has changed over the last few years - and changed for the worse in my opinion. Acerbic comments from mods are surely not a good way to encourage members to remain and newbies to join.
I started an extensive thread some years back which exemplified the best of the forum. Advice was good and plentiful but so was supportive comment (and occasional digression). If it's true that mods now only want factual exchanges, the humanity of this community is lessened.

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+1

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I think you have a misconception as to what the function of a moderator is.

First and foremost a mod is also a member, probably was for some years before he/she became a mod, continues to be so while moderating and will likely remain so after giving up that duty.

A mod is not responsible for promoting BE, members do that by posting interesting information (as was the case in the thread you mentioned) which then gets referenced by Google and the like, which may ultimately bring new members into the community.

What a mod is responsible for is applying the site rules on the forums he/she moderates - most of this work goes unnoticed by members but some mods spend much of their time simply removing stuff which break the rules (mainly spam by new members). When they are noticed is if they moderate older members who overstep the mark. No one likes such a situation but it happens sometimes.

For my part I don't, and can't, moderate the French forum but I can as a simple member be ascerbic, if I so choose. If a member has a spat with another and wants to take away his ball and bat, then that's fine. It's actually better than having a long running feud between certain members, something which has happened in the past.

Personally, I like the French forum. Members have a profound knowledge, are very open and don't take themselves too seriously, which is great for a forum. Maybe like good wine, there have been some memorable vintages but I'm sure there are even better to come!

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I have no problem, obviously, with you expressing your personal opinion. The fact that I think you're sometimes rude is simply a matter of opinion, too.

But you make your comments with the word "Moderator" loudly displayed beside your avatar. That makes me associate your comments with an official line, just as some of your advice on this thread is clearly posted as a staff member. The conflict of interest does a disservice to BF - one which might easily be avoided if you were to have a second account under a different name. (Whilst this is probably forbidden, I'm sure that staff privilege would permit an exception to be made.)

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JSB, I have to say that I can't really agree with your first statement - unless of course you were referring to many of my foolish posts, in which case I should probably plead, "Guilty as charged." :o
I've been a member here since 2007, and not surprisingly in that timescale have seen good and not so good posts. In particular from one member who joined in the 1st quarter of this year. That person appeared reasonably knowledgeable, but had a bad, frequent habit of making sweeping claims (without justification) which imho is particularly annoying, and can be very misleading to those coming here looking for substantiated facts. Fortunately that particular individual (after having feathers ruffled a little), appears to have departed not too well-tempered - certainly unlike your own clavier, I have no doubt....:sneaky:
Regarding comments from Moderators, I'd have to say that it must be a somewhat difficult, unrewarding task, and one which I wouldn't like to take on myself. Perhaps they too have the occasional bad day, but heh - don't we all?

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Well said sir.

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Guys you are breaking rule n°15.

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Well well well. What will happen next if the moderator himself breaks the rules?

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Flagellation of course! There have to be some perks to the job :rofl:

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What's their username? Give us a clue :eek:

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:rofl:

I stand for freedom of speech though.

'Rude' is very subjective after all.

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Please accept my candidature for moderator. ;)

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Sorry to be a party pooper but I think that if you're flagged as a mod, you have to be aware that you're in a sense an ambassador.
In the past I was a mod on a different forum. I felt it cramped my style no end and I stopped enjoying that forum (plus for some reason one particular member was out to get me, via pms and on the forum, and generally made things difficult for me).
I wouldn't be a mod again (not that I would be asked!).