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Old Nov 6th 2015, 1:15 pm
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Hi all,

Just wondering, what will happen if GB leaves the EU? Will I have to give up my French nationality if I want to remain British?

Which passport is best and why? Any advice is welcome.

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Hi BP
Do you currently have dual nationality?
There are more french citizens living in France than UK citizens in France therefore in that event it would be in the interests of both countries to reach agreement on several issues including rights of citizens.
UK citizens could live and work in France prior to the EU but they had to apply for a carte de séjour.
IMHO it is not worth worrying about at this time because a) it may not happen. b) it would take possibly several years to untangle membership and current legislation etc. during which time people affected by any changes could deal with those changes.
If the UK was to leave the EU then this would be an unprecedented situation regarding rights (e.g. pension rights) of citizens and I think that it would be unlikely that rights currently enjoyed by UK citizens would be withdrawn - but what do I know?
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Originally Posted by babyposer
Hi all,

Just wondering, what will happen if GB leaves the EU? Will I have to give up my French nationality if I want to remain British? ....
Whether or not Britain is in the EU has nothing to do with multiple nationalities.

If you were Indian and acquired British nationality, the Indian government would remove your Indian nationality. If you were American and acquired British nationality, neither the British nor US governments give a dämn. The last time I checked neither India nor the US were in the European Onion.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski
Whether or not Britain is in the EU has nothing to do with multiple nationalities.

If you were Indian and acquired British nationality, the Indian government would remove your Indian nationality. If you were American and acquired British nationality, neither the British nor US governments give a dämn. The last time I checked neither India nor the US were in the European Onion.
Neither the US nor India were mentioned by anyone else in the thread so I can only assume happy hour is early in Pulaskiworld
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Originally Posted by Chatter Static
Neither the US nor India were mentioned by anyone else in the thread so I can only assume happy hour is early in Pulaskiworld
They are examles of countries that are not in the EU with Britain, proving that you may, or may not, be able to hold dual nationality irrespective of EU membership.
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Originally Posted by Chatter Static
Neither the US nor India were mentioned by anyone else in the thread so I can only assume happy hour is early in Pulaskiworld
Whatever Pulaski's happy hour is, I'll willingly join him (if only to coax him into changing his avatar) - a face which I keep wanting to smack.
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Whatever Pulaski's happy hour is, I'll willingly join him (if only to coax him into changing his avatar) ....
Never!
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Whatever Pulaski's happy hour is, I'll willingly join him (if only to coax him into changing his avatar) - a face which I keep wanting to smack.
I've wondered for some time who it is. Pulaski himself or someone famous (but unknown to me)?
Bp's question has never occurred to me for my own or my daughters' dual nationalities, but there's no point in worrying until the problem actually arises....
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Originally Posted by dmu
I've wondered for some time who it is. Pulaski himself or someone famous (but unknown to me)?
Bp's question has never occurred to me for my own or my daughters' dual nationalities, but there's no point in worrying until the problem actually arises....
You appear to live in the ONLY country in the world (France) where Top Gear was not shown on television.

FYI

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Originally Posted by Pulaski
You appear to live in the ONLY country in the world (France) where Top Gear was not shown on television.

FYI
Sorry, never heard of it, but Wikipedia says there's been a French version on a French Discovery Channel (Satellite TV) since March this year.
But it's one little mystery solved....
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Sorry, never heard of it, but Wikipedia says there's been a French version on a French Discovery Channel (Satellite TV) since March this year.
But it's one little mystery solved....
"Versions" are pathetic shadows of the original, we have one in the US. ..... You need proof? Amazon recently signed a $160 million contract with the three presenters and the executive producer of the original Top Gear, to make 36 episodes ($4.5million per episode! ) of a new show, rumoured to be called "Gear Knobs".
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Originally Posted by cyrian
Hi BP
Do you currently have dual nationality?
There are more french citizens living in France than UK citizens in France therefore in that event it would be in the interests of both countries to reach agreement on several issues including rights of citizens.
UK citizens could live and work in France prior to the EU but they had to apply for a carte de séjour.
IMHO it is not worth worrying about at this time because a) it may not happen. b) it would take possibly several years to untangle membership and current legislation etc. during which time people affected by any changes could deal with those changes.
If the UK was to leave the EU then this would be an unprecedented situation regarding rights (e.g. pension rights) of citizens and I think that it would be unlikely that rights currently enjoyed by UK citizens would be withdrawn - but what do I know?
Actually I'm about to ask for my British passport (dad is a geordie but never married my French mum and I was born in France) but wonder will I have to choose later between French nationality and British nationality if GB leaves the EU

OK the passport is only £80 but don't want to waste my money

I heard you could visit more countries and stay longer (i.e. New Zealand: 3 months as a French tourist but 6 for a British person) when you have a British passport and that it was one of the best in the world. That's why I'm wondering!

Will probably get it anyway, I'm very excited!! Can't wait to be officially 'British'!

EDIT: Of course, many EU citizens are now asking how to get British Citizenship to obtain the highest level of security and are willing to pay the Home Office fee of £1,005 for the benefit.

How expensive!!

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Originally Posted by balding_potter
No offence but Google is your friend.

Google is your Friend

Or is it?
I already had a look and couldn't find the answer.. the rush seemed to be the other way round (brits who want EU passports)

ps: don't be so resentful

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Actually I'm about to ask for my British passport (dad is a geordie but never married my French mum and I was born in France) but wonder will I have to choose later between French nationality and British nationality if GB leaves the EU. .....
Why are you still wondering? For starters go and Google "European Economic Area", because that is why there is freedom to live and work anywhere in Europe, including in Switzerland, Norway, Iceland, and Lichtenstein, which aren't even in the European Onion.

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Originally Posted by babyposer
Actually I'm about to ask for my British passport (dad is a geordie but never married my French mum and I was born in France) but wonder will I have to choose later between French nationality and British nationality if GB leaves the EU

OK the passport is only £80 but don't want to waste my money

I heard you could visit more countries and stay longer (i.e. New Zealand: 3 months as a French tourist but 6 for a British person) when you have a British passport and that it was one of the best in the world. That's why I'm wondering!

Will probably get it anyway, I'm very excited!! Can't wait to be officially 'British'!
If you born in France, your British father never married your French mother and you were born before 1 July 2006 then you'll need to register as a British citizen before you apply for your British passport.

https://www.gov.uk/register-british-...british-father

And no, you won't need to choose between your French and British citizenship if the UK leaves the EU. The two are unrelated and both French and British nationality law allow dual citizenship.
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