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Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by TheAwesomeMatt
(Post 12769111)
It was obviously a joke, but it's nice that you have such high opinion of expats.
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Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by OrangeMango
(Post 12768843)
Austria is an interesting country at any stage, however I have the same impression that foreigners are no longer really welcome in Austria. Internationals from western Europe often, Brits, French, etc.. tend to stay among themselves in international groups and often being posted for work at one of the international UN-organisations. Brits in Austria are mostly known for their excessive drinking as tourists in ski resorts like Mayrhofen. Austrians also tend to be unfriendly to foreigners, excet tourists and foreign students.
Especially if one is from the Balkans or Turkey they are clearly to mostly unwanted and often unaccepted in the Austrian society. It's also the main reason, why dual citizenship will always be an issue and a contentious subject in Austria. They simply don't want somebody holding both Turkish and Austrian citizenship, the same goes for somebody who is from somewhere from the Balkans and wants to be Austrian as well. Any kind of "Hard Brexit" would be an immediate loss of rights, and the R-W-R card just doesn't offer the same rights and certainty, other than it's more uncertain......
Originally Posted by OrangeMango
(Post 12768930)
Yes, I've also heard the story about Scandinavians involved in brawls in bars around Austria. It's not only Brits.
This Kurz character with an anti-immigration policy seems to have taken voters from the far right freedom party, Anti-immigration in Austria seems more like "anti-refugee" to me, but I could be wrong here... Isn't the R-W-R Plus card temporary as well? Or is the status permanent in nature and only needs renewal to have an up to date picture? There is a "bonus point" if you are married to an Austrian or EU citizen. Can't remember what this "bonus" was. Can't have been significant. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by Thairetired2016
(Post 12769119)
R-W-R Plus is a permanent card with yearly fee and picture change for all those who don't qualify for the next level up. Next level is 5 yearly renewal.
There is a "bonus point" if you are married to an Austrian or EU citizen. Can't remember what this "bonus" was. Can't have been significant. Apart from that, I have also heard that this may be possible for those applicants who have high amounts of money and are seen as providing "special value" to Austria. These applicants would be able to have both citizenships. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by OrangeMango
(Post 12768843)
Austria is an interesting country at any stage, however I have the same impression that foreigners are no longer really welcome in Austria. Internationals from western Europe often, Brits, French, etc.. tend to stay among themselves in international groups and often being posted for work at one of the international UN-organisations. Brits in Austria are mostly known for their excessive drinking as tourists in ski resorts like Mayrhofen. Austrians also tend to be unfriendly to foreigners, excet tourists and foreign students.
Especially if one is from the Balkans or Turkey they are clearly to mostly unwanted and often unaccepted in the Austrian society. It's also the main reason, why dual citizenship will always be an issue and a contentious subject in Austria. They simply don't want somebody holding both Turkish and Austrian citizenship, the same goes for somebody who is from somewhere from the Balkans and wants to be Austrian as well. Any kind of "Hard Brexit" would be an immediate loss of rights, and the R-W-R card just doesn't offer the same rights and certainty, other than it's more uncertain......
Originally Posted by OrangeMango
(Post 12769277)
Are there any known cases where one has gotten naturalized in Austria, and was still able to retain his / her previous citizenship?
Apart from that, I have also heard that this may be possible for those applicants who have high amounts of money and are seen as providing "special value" to Austria. These applicants would be able to have both citizenships. Austria is not quite like e.g. Malta, Cyprus, U.K., the list is long, where "investment" buys you another p.port. No doubt you can find such info on the gov. website. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by Thairetired2016
(Post 12769329)
From what I understand "special value" means science or art/music related not money related.
Austria is not quite like e.g. Malta, Cyprus, U.K., the list is long, where "investment" buys you another p.port. No doubt you can find such info on the gov. website. I only know that in certain jobs / roles one can apply sooner. Mark Carney would qualify for that I think. Also, if British ancestry exists the process to citizenship is slightly easier. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by OrangeMango;12769451[b
]I don't think that the UK offers citizenship by investment at all[/b]. Also a certain Meghan Markle has to take and pass the citizenship test as well, and spend the number of years in the UK, no matter of who she's married to.... The language exam would most likely be not applicable if one is from a majority English speaking country.
I only know that in certain jobs / roles one can apply sooner. Mark Carney would qualify for that I think. Also, if British ancestry exists the process to citizenship is slightly easier. Google is your friend re UK citizenship. Same in Austria. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Many countries don't allow dual citizenship, surely it's up to Austria to determine its own policies.
The existence of the RWR+ card, as mentioned by ThaiRetired, puts paid to the hysterical notion of "Any kind of "Hard Brexit" would be an immediate loss of rights". The fact that the card may require renewal every X years is not a terrible burden. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by tooboocoo
(Post 12769719)
Many countries don't allow dual citizenship, surely it's up to Austria to determine its own policies.
The existence of the RWR+ card, as mentioned by ThaiRetired, puts paid to the hysterical notion of "Any kind of "Hard Brexit" would be an immediate loss of rights". The fact that the card may require renewal every X years is not a terrible burden. How much does he earn? Austria also has a skills list. Doesnt apply while there is FoM. Don't overlook that there is no shortage of ppl for waitressing and similar. All those approved migrants are keen to work. They generally provide friendlier service than EU workers. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Back in my youth I found Austria hostile to foreigners. I did not have the same problems in North Germany, including the GDR I always had a suspicion that Austrians never forgave us for the loss of their Empire.
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Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12772739)
Back in my youth I found Austria hostile to foreigners. I did not have the same problems in North Germany, including the GDR I always had a suspicion that Austrians never forgave us for the loss of their Empire.
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Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by OrangeMango
(Post 12769451)
I don't think that the UK offers citizenship by investment at all. Also a certain Meghan Markle has to take and pass the citizenship test as well, and spend the number of years in the UK, no matter of who she's married to.... The language exam would most likely be not applicable if one is from a majority English speaking country.
I only know that in certain jobs / roles one can apply sooner. Mark Carney would qualify for that I think. Also, if British ancestry exists the process to citizenship is slightly easier. I guess Meghan Markle could be in the UK on an Investors visa, but she's more likely on a spouse visa. If so, she'll be eligible to apply for ILR after 5 years, and as the wife of a British citizen will be able to apply for citizenship immediately after that. She will need to pass the Life in the UK test before her British citizenship can be granted. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse
(Post 12772763)
The UK offers an Investor (Tier 1) visa. Applicants must have a minimum of two million pounds to invest in the UK. The visa allows a stay of 3 years and 4 months, and can be extended for a further 2 years. After 5 years on this visa and meeting all the requirements the person can apply for ILR and 6 months after that they can apply for citizenship. It's only at the citizenship application stage that applicants need to pass a Life in the UK test.
I guess Meghan Markle could be in the UK on an Investors visa, but she's more likely on a spouse visa. If so, she'll be eligible to apply for ILR after 5 years, and as the wife of a British citizen will be able to apply for citizenship immediately after that. She will need to pass the Life in the UK test before her British citizenship can be granted. However what I meant in my previous post is that Austria doesn't clearly state how much money is actually required to qualify for that similar investor-process. Austria also doesn't offer a clear roadmap, but issues citizenship straight if a "significant and outstanding contribution to Austria" is seen by the authorities. This process never mentiones a precise amount of funds. Also, the existing citizenship is not to be renounced, upon naturalization. Oddly also language requirements as well as residency requirements don't exist for this roadmap to Austrian citizenship. For all the others, the majority of us, this option does not exist. Dual citizenship upon naturalization in Austria is forbidden outright. In times of Brexit this will mean a lot of less options for a long term residence in Austria. Either renounce British, or live on some renewable document in Austria for longer, but not having to many and longer absences..... |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by scot47
(Post 12772739)
Back in my youth I found Austria hostile to foreigners. I did not have the same problems in North Germany, including the GDR I always had a suspicion that Austrians never forgave us for the loss of their Empire.
In some areas in Germany ppl are more friendly than in others. GDR was always happy to meet an outsider. They didn't get to see many. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by OrangeMango
(Post 12772905)
....However what I meant in my previous post is that Also, the existing citizenship is not to be renounced, upon naturalization. Oddly also language requirements as well as residency requirements don't exist for this roadmap to Austrian citizenship. For all the others, the majority of us, this option does not exist. Dual citizenship upon naturalization in Austria is forbidden outright. In times of Brexit this will mean a lot of less options for a long term residence in Austria. Either renounce British, or live on some renewable document in Austria for longer, but not having to many and longer absences..... While Britain is in the EU e g. Germany allows dual citizenship. Once you are out and you apply, you can't have dual citizenship. You will be treated like any other non-EU country. To me dual citizenship is not important. If I wanted to be Austrian or German, why would I want to be a Brit at the same time? Don't ppl become citizens of another country because they want to be part of her interests and aims and future? I have noticed that Brits are quick to complain about other countries immigration rules. You should try and get a visa or permit to remain in Britain as a 3rd country national/post Brexit. My husband scrapped the idea quickly to move me to UK post Brexit. The choice is yours: to vote against Tories, stay in the EU and you could have dual citizenship in Germany or stay in Austria without the regular immigration visits. |
Re: No forum for Austria?
Originally Posted by Thairetired2016
(Post 12772951)
. If I wanted to be Austrian or German, why would I want to be a Brit at the same time? Don't ppl become citizens of another country because they want to be part of her interests and aims and future?
I have noticed that Brits are quick to complain about other countries immigration rules. You should try and get a visa or permit to remain in Britain as a 3rd country national/post Brexit. My husband scrapped the idea quickly to move me to UK post Brexit. The choice is yours: to vote against Tories, stay in the EU and you could have dual citizenship in Germany or stay in Austria without the regular immigration visits. |
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