Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12767900)

The media had stuff recently about THAT HOUSE in Braunau-am-Inn where THAT MAN was born. Anglo media do not tell us much about waht is going on in that part of the world/

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12767900)

The media had stuff recently about THAT HOUSE in Braunau-am-Inn where THAT MAN was born. Anglo media do not tell us much about waht is going on in that part of the world/

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12767938)

Don't know about the quality of the reporting as I haven't read them, but there seems to be quite a few Austrian newspapers in English, eg.
https://www.thelocal.at/
https://www.wienerzeitung.at/nachrichten/english_news/

Perhaps the other countries you mention have the same?

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12768155)

...They would be out overnight in the middle of the winter season.

Originally Posted by tooboocoo (Post 12768212)

How do you know this?

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12768157)

Check out the links. "The Local" showers you with adverts as this is what they live off, Wiener Zeitung doesn't offer uptodate news in English.
Best to ignore both and learn to speak/read German.

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12768227)

Are you affected by it?

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12768227)

In case of a NoDeal Brexit agreements stop immediately resp. new rules come into force = apply for Rot-Weiss-Rot Card.
I just go by a statement from head of tourism authority on TV and newspaper.They are as concerned as employees are.
Btw, UK embassy Vienna website gives all info/links you need in case of No Deal. Check their Facebook?
Are you affected by it?

Originally Posted by tooboocoo (Post 12768271)

No, I'm not affected, thank you for asking. I was just querying why you presented that statement as a fact - there is no reason to imagine that people will be rounded up and deported the day after Brexit, even if it's a "hard" one.

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12768565)

I didn't say they will be rounded up and deported.

Originally Posted by tooboocoo (Post 12768589)

Actually, you did - "They would be out overnight..." was your exact phrase.
The cooling of the formerly friendly attitudes has, I believe, very little to do with British ski bums - it's a consequence of the volume and flavour of the "enrichment" they've experienced over the last decade or so.

Originally Posted by TheAwesomeMatt (Post 12768600)

Erm, guys, there is one:

https://britishexpats.com/forum/australia-54/

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12768605)

Better get your atlas out There are no kangaroos in Austria.

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12768602)

I will say this - your average Austrian knows a lot more about Britain than the average Brit knows about Austria !

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12768778)

Common mistake :lol:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...0d3e28a582.jpg

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12768802)

You can buy Tshirts in Salzburg with print "there are no kangaroos in Austria".
Even some French get it wrong. My neighbor asks me every year whether we go to Australia again.

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12768565)

I didn't say they will be rounded up and deported. They just loose all their rights overnight. Once their application for R-W-R card has been approved you can continue. There are income requirements. I don't know how much a barman or skiing instructor earns. Austria is no longer the welcoming country it once was. I often get the impression they (officialdom) would rather see the back of foreigners.

Originally Posted by OrangeMango (Post 12768843)

Austria is an interesting country at any stage, however I have the same impression that foreigners are no longer really welcome in Austria. Internationals from western Europe often, Brits, French, etc.. tend to stay among themselves in international groups and often being posted for work at one of the international UN-organisations. Brits in Austria are mostly known for their excessive drinking as tourists in ski resorts like Mayrhofen. Austrians also tend to be unfriendly to foreigners, excet tourists and foreign students.

Austrians remind me of Thais: they says yes and don't mean "yes", they are friendly the moment they see money coming in. No matter where you are from, or who the foreigner is, tourist or student, they just pretend to be friendly. Drunk tourists come from many countries. This habit is not a characteristic of the ones you mentioned. Add Scandinavians. There is hardly a weekend where there isn't a punch up in one of the bars in Salzburg, summer or winter. 2015/2016 migration wave has added to anti immigrant attitude. Austrians blame Merkel but on the ground the Germans get to feel the dislike because "their Merkel" let the masses in. Germans are historically unpopular.
The previous govt. and the incoming govt., both headed by Kurz, netted support with anti-immigration policy.

Especially if one is from the Balkans or Turkey they are clearly to mostly unwanted and often unaccepted in the Austrian society. It's also the main reason, why dual citizenship will always be an issue and a contentious subject in Austria. They simply don't want somebody holding both Turkish and Austrian citizenship, the same goes for somebody who is from somewhere from the Balkans and wants to be Austrian as well.

Austria always had this citizenship issue not just because of Turks and Balkan immigrants.

Any kind of "Hard Brexit" would be an immediate loss of rights, and the R-W-R card just doesn't offer the same rights and certainty, other than it's more uncertain......

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12768990)

I wonder if the post by TheAwesomeMatt is a joke or a sign that he thinks Austria and Australia are the same place. I know that some "expats" are geographically challenged.

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12768990)

I wonder if the post by TheAwesomeMatt is a joke or a sign that he thinks Austria and Australia are the same place. I know that some "expats" are geographically challenged.

Originally Posted by TheAwesomeMatt (Post 12769111)

It was obviously a joke, but it's nice that you have such high opinion of expats.

Originally Posted by OrangeMango (Post 12768843)

Austria is an interesting country at any stage, however I have the same impression that foreigners are no longer really welcome in Austria. Internationals from western Europe often, Brits, French, etc.. tend to stay among themselves in international groups and often being posted for work at one of the international UN-organisations. Brits in Austria are mostly known for their excessive drinking as tourists in ski resorts like Mayrhofen. Austrians also tend to be unfriendly to foreigners, excet tourists and foreign students.

Especially if one is from the Balkans or Turkey they are clearly to mostly unwanted and often unaccepted in the Austrian society. It's also the main reason, why dual citizenship will always be an issue and a contentious subject in Austria. They simply don't want somebody holding both Turkish and Austrian citizenship, the same goes for somebody who is from somewhere from the Balkans and wants to be Austrian as well.

Any kind of "Hard Brexit" would be an immediate loss of rights, and the R-W-R card just doesn't offer the same rights and certainty, other than it's more uncertain......

Originally Posted by OrangeMango (Post 12768930)

Yes, I've also heard the story about Scandinavians involved in brawls in bars around Austria. It's not only Brits.

This Kurz character with an anti-immigration policy seems to have taken voters from the far right freedom party, Anti-immigration in Austria seems more like "anti-refugee" to me, but I could be wrong here...

Isn't the R-W-R Plus card temporary as well? Or is the status permanent in nature and only needs renewal to have an up to date picture?

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12769119)

R-W-R Plus is a permanent card with yearly fee and picture change for all those who don't qualify for the next level up. Next level is 5 yearly renewal.
There is a "bonus point" if you are married to an Austrian or EU citizen. Can't remember what this "bonus" was. Can't have been significant.

Originally Posted by OrangeMango (Post 12768843)

Austria is an interesting country at any stage, however I have the same impression that foreigners are no longer really welcome in Austria. Internationals from western Europe often, Brits, French, etc.. tend to stay among themselves in international groups and often being posted for work at one of the international UN-organisations. Brits in Austria are mostly known for their excessive drinking as tourists in ski resorts like Mayrhofen. Austrians also tend to be unfriendly to foreigners, excet tourists and foreign students.

Especially if one is from the Balkans or Turkey they are clearly to mostly unwanted and often unaccepted in the Austrian society. It's also the main reason, why dual citizenship will always be an issue and a contentious subject in Austria. They simply don't want somebody holding both Turkish and Austrian citizenship, the same goes for somebody who is from somewhere from the Balkans and wants to be Austrian as well.

Any kind of "Hard Brexit" would be an immediate loss of rights, and the R-W-R card just doesn't offer the same rights and certainty, other than it's more uncertain......

Originally Posted by OrangeMango (Post 12769277)

Are there any known cases where one has gotten naturalized in Austria, and was still able to retain his / her previous citizenship?

Apart from that, I have also heard that this may be possible for those applicants who have high amounts of money and are seen as providing "special value" to Austria. These applicants would be able to have both citizenships.

Originally Posted by Thairetired2016 (Post 12769329)

From what I understand "special value" means science or art/music related not money related.
Austria is not quite like e.g. Malta, Cyprus, U.K., the list is long, where "investment" buys you another p.port. No doubt you can find such info on the gov. website.

Originally Posted by OrangeMango;12769451[b

]I don't think that the UK offers citizenship by investment at all[/b]. Also a certain Meghan Markle has to take and pass the citizenship test as well, and spend the number of years in the UK, no matter of who she's married to.... The language exam would most likely be not applicable if one is from a majority English speaking country.

I only know that in certain jobs / roles one can apply sooner. Mark Carney would qualify for that I think.

Also, if British ancestry exists the process to citizenship is slightly easier.

Originally Posted by tooboocoo (Post 12769719)

Many countries don't allow dual citizenship, surely it's up to Austria to determine its own policies.

The existence of the RWR+ card, as mentioned by ThaiRetired, puts paid to the hysterical notion of "Any kind of "Hard Brexit" would be an immediate loss of rights". The fact that the card may require renewal every X years is not a terrible burden.

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12772739)

Back in my youth I found Austria hostile to foreigners. I did not have the same problems in North Germany, including the GDR I always had a suspicion that Austrians never forgave us for the loss of their Empire.