DOWN UNDER TRADIES
 

Hello all.

Quick question. Any one come across the down under tradies group in london?
Had a chap from NECA put me on to them. They claim they can do your gap training in london over 2 weekends, you then fly out to WA and sit 5 hour practical test and get A licence same day.

They also say they can find you a job after succesfull pass of the course? Not cheap though £3000 for course.

Just interested if anyone had done this course?

:o

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The guy from DUT rang me on Monday and said about the course. I would do it if I had the money because it means you hit the ground running once your over in WA. Need to sell my house first!

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The licensing course in Perth takes 2 weeks at TAFE and, as a newly arrived immigrant, will cost you $230.

£3000??? Tell 'Down Under Tradies' to ram it up their hoop.

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I know which one I'll be doing then.

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how you doin guys, just checked out the same thing, £3000, so many folk goin round tryin to rip us off ! Im looking to head to perth in dec/jan. Any advice ?

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Hiya - that's when we're heading out too! So just gna send off this form to energy safety and hopefully they then give you the okay to do the 2 week course? Just not sure I put a UK address on form as I heard this causes problems? Don't have an Aussie address. Anyway that's the plan so far :fingerscrossed:

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Hi Steve. We was going to QLD but not looking good for the work situation so we have now decided to go to Perth probably Freemantle/Bays water. We have friends there that love it and say there is loads of work, great weather and great Schools. We are just waiting for the IELTS results (friday this coming week) so we can apply for SS then the Visa. Probably be round April time before we get out there providing the visa comes before hand. I think the SS visa takes around 12 months. How far are you into your application? :)

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i noticed down under tradies are offering a cert 3 in plumbing that can be done in the uk, as i pointed out on another forum a cert 3 equivilent is what you get of vettasses, they are peddling shit to rip off brits, also the info they give you is not correct on the plumbing side, anyway beware all, and good luck, its worth it when you get here.

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I've just passed my vetassess and got a level 3 cert, do you know what training I would have to do to work around Perth.
I don't want to be self employed ( had enough of that, running my own business)
would be more than apply to be employed
I've seen about gap trading in Australia , but not sure of time scale , cst etc.
Thank you guys for any help given

Ps, tradies own under biggest rip off ever. I've been on PIO forum and there is a big debate going on about them

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Hi Ian

From what i gather you have to now apply to energy safe, then do a course at local college over two weeks, then apply to energy safe once again for license which (dont quote me) can take up another 3-4 weeks to process.

I visisted Australia house a month ago for a visa/jobs open day. A guy from Neca in perth took my C.V and told me to call DUT as they can sort the gap training in the UK.

I gave them a call but was horrified at the cost. I then told them i would need to think about it and talk with the misses. A day later he was ringing me back 3 times a day. I stopped answering the calls but i was receiving 3-4 phone calls a day for a week along with 2-3 emails regarding the course and booking.

We have emailed Energy Safe and a local college in perth. The cost is a fraction to what DUT want. Also DUT wanted to do this 80 hour course over 2 weekends doing 12 hour days. My maths aint that good but that adds up to 48 hours not 80.

would be nice if we could get someone whos done the course to give us some feedback on here. :confused:

regards

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hello guys just read all the posts and it makes interesting reading.everyone is allowed there own opinion but i can say that the dutg is the most cost effective and quickest way to get set up in australia with a licence.i know the cost of the course is all what people see but i am 38 yrs old and run my own firm for 11 years so i dont see it as a rip off to quote another.i have done plenty of research into this before i sat the dutg etl course and every other option came up with the same answer,a long time waiting in australia for my licence on mediocre wages and as im going with my wife and kids that is not an option.this way i carry on working here whilst my visa is processing then straight to australia and straight into work as a grade A licence holder and into a more secure future.dutg are the only firm that can do this and it is endorsed by NECA who want qualified guys in oz working asap.i have passed the couse and have sold my house and thanks to dutg i have a job lined up in canberra on $80,000 for a 39 hr week and there sponsoring my visa so i can go before my 175 is processed.now does that sound like a rip off,im off to oz for a better life which is what we all want with a licence and a job all for £3000.and 2 long weekends in a classroom.like i said earlier there are other routes to a licence but this was the best way as far as im concerned.and i have reccomended dutg to anyone in the trade who is interested.

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and tell me this is not blatant advertising, made me laugh just reading it, didint you no folks they want qualified blokes in oz asap. you mean they want you 3000 grand asap. nuf said............................

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Its nice to be mocked by a complete stranger!just to let you know I have no loyalty or connection with dutg other than I've done the course and I'm going to oz wit a licence.if that's advertising then so be it as I'm happy with the service and like to spread to word.in the grand scheme of things the cost of course is irrelevant as I'm garranteed. A jb in oz qualified the minute I set foot in country.no its a hard course as the standards set by them are way higher than it is here.I just didn't fancy going to oz still uncertaian as to when I would be qualified to work and as I said earlier I've done my reaesearch.once you have done the course in oz there is a 2 to 3 month waiting list to sit your exam to finally get your licence.if anyone can afford with a family to not work as a qualified spark while that's going on then fair enougjh but my situation is different I can't afford that lluxury.and £3000 doesn't last lang in oz so for me it is all good.everyone has a opinion and I respect but please respect mine!

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mate i respect all opinions, i just get the feeling either arnt who you say you are or you are in for a massive shock when you get here, and if your bringing a family here with 3 grand then your a mug , job or not 3 grand aint worth a toss here with a family in tow, you could loose that on a deposit and rent upfront, any way good luck with it all.

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I think you have misunderstood me what I'm saying is £3000 which is what I spent on the course is nothing compared to being in oz un qualified for a 3 months with a family in tow so as far as I'm concerned its money well spent as I arrive in oz with an immediate salary of $80,000.I think if you can get what I've got cheaper taking into account all factors then good luck to you and I mean that sincerely!

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Yeah, right...

£3000 is relevant to most people, especially when you can pay $230 for the exact same course once you get to WA

Not really sure what you're on about here.

That's not true.


The reason down under tradies are getting mocked is because they're blatantly trying to rip people off.

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Please do not imply I am not who I say I am all I have done is sat the etl course and I'm now going to australia.if your saying that in miracle world that I can fly to oz with my family and on day one start a course and in 2weeks I will be a a grade licence holder with a job at the end then I must be a mug as you so rudely put it.I can't stop your opinion but please stop making out that I'm a dutg spokesman.I paid for a service and I got what I wanted end of!

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i think the problem is folks arnt knocking you personaly, its just the organisation is good at taking money for shit quals that dont or arnt worth a toss here, as for the agrade licence im not sure as im a humble plumber, anyways as you said you have done your research and your on your way with your family, good luck, please update us on how your going down here,

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Hi Doughy, can you tell me, do you have an A class license in your posession right now, could you maybe scan it and show us on here, that way you can prove to all the doubters that DUT can provide the license from the course and you can hit the Tarmac and start working !!!

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My understanding is that you can't obtain a licence outside of Australia. You must undertake gap training in Australia in order to obtain a full licence. The ACT (Canberra) requires that oversea applicants must show practical experience in Australian working practices, so I'm dubious as to how a full licence can be issued without it.
Doughy, you also stated that you have gained sponsorship after been granted a 175 visa so your new sponsorship visa, which would be a temporary visa by the way and if you lose your job you only have 28 days to find a new sponsor or it's back to Blighty, would cancel out your 175 visa.
I can only summise that either you are a DUT mole or you've been led up the garden path.

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Right last post as I feel like I'm not being understood.I may have misled you into thinking I have a licence in my possesion.this is not the case as I have to get that once I have done my practical exam in WA.which unless I have been lied to by CET is immediate.you may think that is arrogant of me to assume I will pass but if I don't then I have no right being an electrician anywhere!also I applied for my 175 before I ever found out about dutg which is taking it natural long winded course.once I passed the etl I had an interview with my employer who knew about dutg and didn't have any issue with the licence being WA as as soon as I reach canberra I will apply for an ACT licence asap which my employer again is ok with.but in no way am I aware of any hidden problems as I have it all in writing.never been called a mole before so that's a first!I can't comment on anybody elses situation but I am DEFINATELY going to australia in january to start work as a qualified electrician,unless of course there is a mass conspiracy bu dutg WA electrasafe neca and my employer.I'm not advertising or working for dutg that is my situation Fact.sorry if you can't see how this is possible but I assure it is!have a good day guys ,back to my fuseboard change I go!!

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Hi Doughy,
I hate to sound like a Q.C. But in your previous posts you stated that you would hit the ground running in Canberra with a a full licence which now turns out not to be the case as you will still have to go to WA to undertake the ETL course?

So let's the the sums, as you have placed great emphasis on the 3000 grand that you have paid out.
3000 pounds to DUT.
900 pounds (estimate) fllight from UK to WA
700 pounds course fees at CET
150 pounds ( estimate) flight from WA to Canberra
Total 4750 pounds

Now, arriving to WA on a 175 visa
900 pounds flight from Uk to WA
400 pounds course fees ('because you have a PR visa)
150 pounds ( estimate) fliight from WA to Canberra)
Total 1450 pounds

Saving 3300 pounds.

I'm sorry but the figures speak for themselves. I' ve read many posts singing the praises of DUT before migrants have left the UK but I've yet to read one after they have arrived in Australia.
I'm sorry but the sums simply do not add up.

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Hi, there is not much point getting hot under the collar, I've seen people like steve o and arthur getting slated when offering sound advice about the peer route to a licence. There are many ways to achieve the same end result and just because it seems strange or unplausable doesn't necessarily mean it is.

Good luck to doughy, I understand his reasoning that £3k in the grand scale of things is peanuts and for him it's worth every penny. I too am sceptical about DUT and whether what doughy has said is going to turn out to be quite how he imagined it but we will have to wait and see, hopefully he wil have the good grace to let us know and warn others if the DUT claims go boss eyed once he gets across.

For my 2p worth the peer course is still the quickest and cheapest way to get a licence (fact). The practicalities of using the licence in other states remain blurred and vary depending on personal circumstances locations and employer attitudes but it wasn't long ago that people were getting horrible and aggressive to those that even suggested it as a valid path to a licence.

Good luck all

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Hi guys ,
I'm in contact with a guy who's just did a reckie in Perth
( I've completed my overseas vetassess ) he's told me that he went to the WA plumbers licensing board and they tod him that know other overseas qualification other than vetassess will get you a provisional licence in WA.
I e mailed them a month or s o ago and I have proof of that. They gave me the 2 gap training centres in Perth

Hope this helps

Ian

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I have recently done the ETL with dutg in London. This course is ran in conjunction with NECA/CET in WA. I found the course to be the quickest and cheapest way to getting an a grade license, you could wait up to four months to get an etl course and that's four months without any pay.The course was ran over two weekends from Friday to Sunday this includes theory and practical assessments and a portfolio to work through. DUTG also managed with some difficulty to them to get me on the final capstone accessment In Balcatta whilst I was on a reccie of the Perth area within two weeks of completion of my ETL at no additional costs to me.

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Now tra seem to have really knocked overseas artc applications on the head I think love em or hate em DUT will be getting a lot busier! I'd have probably done it if I hadn't got my artc application in before the started blocking overseas applications.

I share the concerns about bringing a family across without the option to work before a course becomes a available.

I spent around £2.5k doing the peer route - flights, accommodation, course and books fees.

At £3k the DUT course isn't that much more and could be worth every penny of it saves months of waiting for a course to become a available

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i smell a rat, starange how people just happen to join to defend dutg,

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Yeah I agree! But it's entertaining!!

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i smell two, or would that be one with two accounts ?

so a complete unknown poster who hasnt ever asked a question till now
comes on be and all of his 5 post to date have been to tell us how fantastic dutg are

then along comes another with only 1 post to tell the same

your lot are not stupid neither am i its blantant advertising and should be reported

steve

ps i will be reporting both accounts as adverts i hope others do the same

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mate i`ve heard a lot of how great they are from people in the uk to date not a one from some one in au or some one that actually got a licence and ive been posting on here for 8 years

i rest my case and i`ll let you decide

steve

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I am a liar only because I said my last post would be my last.I joined because a friend was scouting forums for info about oz he text me to say that dutg are a rip off according to a few people on herethat is why I joined because I don't agree with your point of view and wanted to express mine the other rat as you so politely put was on the etl course with me and has just come baclk from perth with his licence so as I have kept in contact with him to see how the capstone exam was I mention this forum to him.I have never met such a cynical bunch in my life,so for the last time again I am f##k all to do with dutg other than as I've stated that I have completed the etl.I think its very sad and quite rude to dismiss someones views so agressively when they are true.I really don't care now what you think because in januaru I'm going to oz.so steve o report me if you like but nothing will happen as my comments are correct!

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It must be frustrating if you are indeed telling th truth, problem is everybody has been dicked around so much by the system they might be a bit oversensitive, also dot forget they also are here only trying to help others, your path may well be valid and work out for all I know but it certainly isn't the cheapest, as others have spelled out the financial costs dut charge a premium for a service, if you think it's worth it you pays your money you makes your choice but you have to admit it does look a bit odd two recent members defending dut to the hilt out of nowhere

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It may sound odd if your a regular forum user but I am not so just wanted to offer an opinion.I'm not having someone who doesn't know my situation criticise my views.I just a honest guy who sat course and is going to oz and all I've spent is £3000.personally for me the cost is irrellavant which might sound like I've got money to burn but it couldn't be further than the truth ,I just like the security of having a job straight away so if people can't understand that then I really can't explain myself any clearer!

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I hear you and have a similar outlook on the financial side to it.

As a newcomer unfortunately you haven't seen the personal circumstances that have influenced the opinions of those that have cast doubt over your intentions or seen the amount of help some of those you have issue with have given freely over the years. People are genuinely interested to hear if what dut claim they can do actually works, this primarily because it goes against a lot of the established procedure that electricians are subjected to to date

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if i were you id be chasing them for info on other guys that have already made the move through them, id be interseted to see how anyone has got on landing in aus with the licence and guaranteed job,

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Guys, STOP
Do what I did, e mail the Australian state ( I did WA ) licensing board, they laugh at tradies own under.
Look at your info you got with your vetassess overseas license
It's in plain english( and we've all taken our IELTS to prove it).
You NEED to do it in Australia

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Hi

Would you please give the details of the institution offering the training and they are offering training to linesman.

Please help

jaku

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Hello Guys,

Just thought I'd add my bit about dutg:-
I contacted them a few months ago after reading about them on the internet and it seemed fair to me, but the main problem i had was " Am i being ripped off?". I explained to the guy, i think he's called Darren, my thoughts and he told me to email a guy at CET if i didn't beleive him. I did this and the guy(dont want give out his name because everyone will email him) replyed back saying that you do the ETL course with dutg in england and once you get to Oz all you have to do is your half day practical. You then get issued a few days later with your A grade license.
This was enough proof to me that it would work, and you can hit the ground running once your there. But i aint doing it cos i can't afford it, simple as that!! I'm going on a PR visa so will get the course discounted, and myself and my family are staying at a friends house until we get sorted.
If i had the cash and been able to take the time off work it may have been a different matter, but its each to thier own.

Please note i aint advertising for anyone, just giving you a chapter from this journey of a Nomadic Contracting Spark!!!!

Good Luck!

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Hello Guys,

Just thought I'd add my bit about dutg:-
I contacted them a few months ago after reading about them on the internet and it seemed fair to me, but the main problem i had was " Am i being ripped off?". I explained to the guy, i think he's called Darren, my thoughts and he told me to email a guy at CET if i didn't beleive him. I did this and the guy(dont want give out his name because everyone will email him) replyed back saying that you do the ETL course with dutg in england and once you get to Oz all you have to do is your half day practical. You then get issued a few days later with your A grade license.
This was enough proof to me that it would work, and you can hit the ground running once your there. But i aint doing it cos i can't afford it, simple as that!! I'm going on a PR visa so will get the course discounted, and myself and my family are staying at a friends house until we get sorted.
If i had the cash and been able to take the time off work it may have been a different matter, but its each to thier own.

Please note i aint advertising for anyone, just giving you a chapter from this journey of a Nomadic Contracting Spark!!!!

Good Luck!