brissybee

That's interesting. I wonder could you use the address of a temporary/holiday rental if you had a firm booking?

bkk_mike

Maybe... It's also quite a bit more expensive... (EEA Family permits are required by EU law to be free. Spouse visa and then FLR are priced at a level that the government admits is highly profitable.)

SanDiegogirl

True, but after reading some of the posts from folks who have gone the Singh route it appears that by the time you pay for travel to the EU country, accommodation, living expenses, deposits for just about everything, rental of car, looking for work etc etc, a UK spouse, if having a job already in the UK, might as well go to the UK and work for the 6 months prior to the visa application.

rebeccajo

A lot of the Singh applicants I read about go to the third country as a family. They have small children and don't wish to be separated from them. One poster to these very boards has a child with disabilities.

Others have no hope of the UK citizen getting a job earning £18600 due to skill sets AND the area of the UK they wish to live in.

I don't think people chose one path over the other due to cost. They chose it because of circumstance.

bkk_mike

There's also the cases where the UK spouse doesn't work. i.e. housewife that looks after the kids - no matter how much the non-EU spouse earns, it's not taken into account.

It's one area where the Financial requirements could legitimately get taken to the European Court, that in families where only one parent works, it's still commonly the male, especially if they're working in the Middle East or Africa, so requiring the British spouse to have an income is discriminating against women.

nm2013

i have no problem doing it that way just the worry at arrival my wife not being allowed in due to one denied visa...but you think if we have enough prove about a second one being a success and that we would leave if not a success as never over stayed any visa in our lives, they should give her a 6 month holiday stamp?

SanDiegogirl

Please read what I wrote. The OP now says he has a job waiting for him in the UK earning over 18,600 per annum. He has no children by the sounds of it.

This, to me, sounds like a "bird in the hand" A job with a salary which will be eligible for the spouse visa.

Yes, he will have to be separated from this wife, but in the long term scheme of things this is not the end of the world. Plenty of people, myself included, have had to be separated from one's family when moving to another country due to having to finalise house/job/family issues.

This job will a)virtually guarantee him a spouse visa and b) he has an ongoing job with income. Why go the Singh route with all its unknown elements and then have to look for a job when you arrive in the UK.

Pulaski

Your post makes no sense. "Skilled workers" can easily walk into a job earning (considerably more than) £18,600, and bring their spouse and family along soon afterwards, in accordance with the rules and with very little inconvenience to themselves or their family.

rebeccajo

Likewise - read what I wrote.

I was not saying the OP should necessarily chose Singh. Nor was I saying he should go the UK route.

What I am saying is people don't usually make these decisions based upon the cost of the processes. They chose their immigration path because of circumstance.

I will say this though - in favor of Singh. If I were young and adventurous, I might choose Singh over the UK path. Why give the Home Office thousands of pounds in fees over 5 years when you can go explore Europe for a bit, and walk into the UK for no fees? Nobody poking their nose in your business twice in five years - just once at the end of five?

Just another side of the financial (and bereaucratic hassle) coin.

rebeccajo

I would not have her attempt an entry without a visit visa.

If you pull the present application, she is going to be "marked" for coming into the UK without some sort of visa. They will pull her into secondary and she'll get turned around because the first application marks her for immigrant intent. This just happened a few days ago to the wife of another member of this community.

CDNtoUK

We're going through the same thing right now. We have put the name of a very good family friend (who has known DH since he was born) who has a large house. We drew up a letter that we could stay in their home until we found a permanent residence and had her sign it and mail us the original. We're hoping that will suffice. We put their phone number and address on it, of course.

Does anyone see any issue with this? We are applying using savings only.

WEBlue

I have found a list of "suggested" documents the applicant can send in for proof of adequate accommodation in the UK.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/si...settlement.pdf

BritInParis

These are categories that used to be available to skilled workers and the ones that now remain open.

Tier 1

Tier 1 (Exceptional talent) - Limited to 1,000 applicants per year
Tier 1 (Entrepreneur) - Requires £200,000 in funds if new to the UK
Tier 1 (Investor) - Requires £1,000,000 in funds
Tier 1 (General) - Closed
Tier 1 (Graduate entrepreneur) - Limited to 2,000 applicants per year
Tier 1 (Post-study work) - Closed
Highly Skilled Migrant Programme - Closed
Business persons - Closed
Fresh Talent: Working in Scotland - Closed
Innovators - Closed
International Graduates Scheme - Closed
Investors - Closed
Writers, composers and artists - Closed

Tier 2

Tier 2 (General) - Limited to 20,700 applicants per year unless earning more than above £152,100 p.a.
Tier 2 (Minister of religion) - No limit
Tier 2 (Sportsperson) - No limit
Tier 2 (Intra company transfer) - No limit
Work permits - Closed
Ministers of religion, missionaries and members of religious orders - Closed
Members of airport-based operational ground staff of an overseas-owned airline - Closed

So unless you're a priest, a footballer, a banker or posted here by your company there are only 23,700 places available per year for skilled workers from outside the EEA for a country with a population of 63 million.

Pulaski

Er, this was a discussion about a British citizen returning to the UK and finding a job with enough pay to bring their non-EU spouse and their family with them. The last time I checked, a British citizen didn't need a visa to work in the UK.

BritInParis

It's not so difficult to understand.

My comment was in response to the posts quoted above and referred was on the government's net migration figure target which is now making it increasingly difficult for the "skilled workers who we actually need and families of British citizens."

You picked out the phrase 'skilled workers' and said my post made 'no sense' as "skilled workers can easily walk into a job in the UK and bring their families with them, which they can't, as the government has severely curtailed the number of visas available to skilled workers from outside the EU.

No-one suggested British citizens needed a visa to work in the UK so I'm not quite sure where you got that from.