My experience of going the Surinder Singh route so far
#766
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Re: My experience of going the Surinder Singh route so far
Dear Davelovesdee,
Good afternoon!
Cant thank you enough for your reply.
So one more question if I may ask please.
1. So when I apply for UK Family Permit for my mother before moving to the UK , I have to prove that I have to transferred my COL. My question is should I have prove the same again when I apply for UK Residence Card imagining I have obtained UK FP?
Really appreciate your time and help.
Thank and best regards,
KB
Good afternoon!
Cant thank you enough for your reply.
So one more question if I may ask please.
1. So when I apply for UK Family Permit for my mother before moving to the UK , I have to prove that I have to transferred my COL. My question is should I have prove the same again when I apply for UK Residence Card imagining I have obtained UK FP?
Really appreciate your time and help.
Thank and best regards,
KB
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Re: My experience of going the Surinder Singh route so far
[QUOTE=LINANA;11831111]No , u don't have to apply for FP, if ur husband get geman RC, https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/entering-the-uk-as-the-holder-of-an-article-10-residence-card/entering-the-uk-as-the-holder-of-an-article-10-residence-card.
"A valid, genuine Article 10 (or Article 20) residence card allows the non-EEA national family member of an EEA national to travel to the UK without the requirement to obtain an EEA family permit."
And once your husband gets in uk ,apply for UK RC based on the surinder route .
Thanks Linana , we are in the germany for over 3 months now and My husband is still waiting for the german RC , we got Library cards and Health Insurance cards and three months Pay Slips of Mine , Are These enough to apply for the uk RC and we got Joint Bank Account and german government registeration at the Same address also. I appreciate for your help
"A valid, genuine Article 10 (or Article 20) residence card allows the non-EEA national family member of an EEA national to travel to the UK without the requirement to obtain an EEA family permit."
And once your husband gets in uk ,apply for UK RC based on the surinder route .
Thanks Linana , we are in the germany for over 3 months now and My husband is still waiting for the german RC , we got Library cards and Health Insurance cards and three months Pay Slips of Mine , Are These enough to apply for the uk RC and we got Joint Bank Account and german government registeration at the Same address also. I appreciate for your help
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Re: My experience of going the Surinder Singh route so far
Hello Dave,
You advised me to apply the uk RC in the Mid of january and i am Really confused to apply for it or Wait for residence card in germany. I have three months Pay Slips now.we have crossed the 100 day Mark äs well. Shall i apply for it or Wait a Little more
You advised me to apply the uk RC in the Mid of january and i am Really confused to apply for it or Wait for residence card in germany. I have three months Pay Slips now.we have crossed the 100 day Mark äs well. Shall i apply for it or Wait a Little more
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Re: My experience of going the Surinder Singh route so far
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No , u don't have to apply for FP, if ur husband get geman RC, https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/entering-the-uk-as-the-holder-of-an-article-10-residence-card/entering-the-uk-as-the-holder-of-an-article-10-residence-card.
"A valid, genuine Article 10 (or Article 20) residence card allows the non-EEA national family member of an EEA national to travel to the UK without the requirement to obtain an EEA family permit."
I am doing the same in ireland,my husband is british citizen,i just submitted my irish RC in Nov, not gonna process untik Feb ,,,(very slow in ireland ),hopefully faster in Germany,
Get the German RC first , then enter Uk ,then apply for uk RC , I suggest you to wait longer ..about 6 months livin in germany .. Cuz your intention would be too obvious ..and hard to approve the center of your life have shifted to Germany...
Do u drive in germany ?maybe possessing a car will help more , all the documents unmentioned should be sufficient,just the more ,the better ..
And once your husband gets in uk ,apply for UK RC based on the surinder route .
Thanks Linana , we are in the germany for over 3 months now and My husband is still waiting for the german RC , we got Library cards and Health Insurance cards and three months Pay Slips of Mine , Are These enough to apply for the uk RC and we got Joint Bank Account and german government registeration at the Same address also. I appreciate for your help
"A valid, genuine Article 10 (or Article 20) residence card allows the non-EEA national family member of an EEA national to travel to the UK without the requirement to obtain an EEA family permit."
I am doing the same in ireland,my husband is british citizen,i just submitted my irish RC in Nov, not gonna process untik Feb ,,,(very slow in ireland ),hopefully faster in Germany,
Get the German RC first , then enter Uk ,then apply for uk RC , I suggest you to wait longer ..about 6 months livin in germany .. Cuz your intention would be too obvious ..and hard to approve the center of your life have shifted to Germany...
Do u drive in germany ?maybe possessing a car will help more , all the documents unmentioned should be sufficient,just the more ,the better ..
And once your husband gets in uk ,apply for UK RC based on the surinder route .
Thanks Linana , we are in the germany for over 3 months now and My husband is still waiting for the german RC , we got Library cards and Health Insurance cards and three months Pay Slips of Mine , Are These enough to apply for the uk RC and we got Joint Bank Account and german government registeration at the Same address also. I appreciate for your help
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Re: My experience of going the Surinder Singh route so far
Hello linana, i have got Car on My Name in germany and My husband drives it . I have no licence. It is Registered on My Name though. If i will join german Classes for couple of months , will it help in the uk RC application.
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Do u guys speak german ?i remember from uk gov , to prove u have transferred ur CENTER OF LIFE to the state , u must speak their language..
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According to the current UK RC application form, yes you do. However, people have opted not to use most of the form (except the Biometric and payment pages) but use a cover letter instead outlining the point that CoL and exercising treaty rights has already been proven for the issuing of the FP.
I will look into applying for Family Permit then.
Appreciate your support and time.
Thanks and best regards,
KB
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Re: My experience of going the Surinder Singh route so far
Once you have the German RC, apply for an FP then apply for the UK RC asap once you have returned to the UK.
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Before we start the SS route we are actually going to go home for a holiday. Somebody just told me that even just a holiday in the uk will now require a visa for a spouse of a uk citizen. Without starting a new thread for a simple question is that true? She is a us citizen, we are only coming over for four weeks, so what is it we have to apply for?
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Re: My experience of going the Surinder Singh route so far
Before we start the SS route we are actually going to go home for a holiday. Somebody just told me that even just a holiday in the uk will now require a visa for a spouse of a uk citizen. Without starting a new thread for a simple question is that true? She is a us citizen, we are only coming over for four weeks, so what is it we have to apply for?
https://www.gov.uk/check-uk-visa/y
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Before we start the SS route we are actually going to go home for a holiday. Somebody just told me that even just a holiday in the uk will now require a visa for a spouse of a uk citizen. Without starting a new thread for a simple question is that true? She is a us citizen, we are only coming over for four weeks, so what is it we have to apply for?
I think that many groups aren't fearmongering, but merely pointing out that the Home Office and UKVI don't always apply the rules correctly.
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Re: My experience of going the Surinder Singh route so far
According to Gov.uk, a visa is not needed, however I am aware of at least 2 instances in the last 6 months of non-visa national spouses being refused entry with the reason being stated that the non-visa national is married to a Brit and therefore is a risk of overstaying. I'm sure that within the 6 month period, hundreds of other non-visa national spouses successfully entered the UK without a visa as well, but it will depend on the individual Entry Clearance Officer.
I think that many groups aren't fearmongering, but merely pointing out that the Home Office and UKVI don't always apply the rules correctly.
I think that many groups aren't fearmongering, but merely pointing out that the Home Office and UKVI don't always apply the rules correctly.