Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
#1
Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
Quickly like to say thanks to all those that helped in the past.
Happily living in the UK with entire family.
But it is coming close to that time where I need to apply for ILR for some family members.
The wife's situation is fine as she will just convert her ancestry visa to ILR.
The step daughter has got me confused. she is now 21 on ancestry dependent visa, and yes still living with us and works part time 16+ hours a week
-- Some places are saying that she can apply on the same application form as my wife's even though she is 18+ as she is still semi dependent on us.
-- Most though say she has to apply in her own right
looking at the SET O form there is no option to select her visa ( only straight up ancestry) that she would be converting from to ILR unless I select other option.
Is this even the correct form for her at this point.
Is anyone able to advise on how she should be applying?
On a side note and probably very important one for which I rather not going in to the full details, she got married to an American earlier in the yr who currently lives in US,
she still uses her own family name on all documentation.
would this need to be disclosed on her application for ILR and ultimately affect her approval for ILR?
Happily living in the UK with entire family.
But it is coming close to that time where I need to apply for ILR for some family members.
The wife's situation is fine as she will just convert her ancestry visa to ILR.
The step daughter has got me confused. she is now 21 on ancestry dependent visa, and yes still living with us and works part time 16+ hours a week
-- Some places are saying that she can apply on the same application form as my wife's even though she is 18+ as she is still semi dependent on us.
-- Most though say she has to apply in her own right
looking at the SET O form there is no option to select her visa ( only straight up ancestry) that she would be converting from to ILR unless I select other option.
Is this even the correct form for her at this point.
Is anyone able to advise on how she should be applying?
On a side note and probably very important one for which I rather not going in to the full details, she got married to an American earlier in the yr who currently lives in US,
she still uses her own family name on all documentation.
would this need to be disclosed on her application for ILR and ultimately affect her approval for ILR?
#2
Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
If your step daughter is married then she can no longer be considered your wife’s dependant. She’ll either need to apply for a visa she qualifies for in her own right or leave the UK once her current visa expires.
#3
Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
Thanks that clears that up then and understandable.
Any Ideas as to which form she would need to fill out as part of the ILR as this bit is unclear,
as she would have met the 5yr rule to convert with her current visa assuming it is still valid.
As the SET O form only allows ancestry option(one the predefined reason to convert to ILR from), which requires documentation to prove ancestry, this is not applicable to her, unless I'm mistaken,
she got her right to stay from her mother as am Ancestry dependent,
So assume she picks "OTHER" and explain her reason for being granted ILR ?
Or will this need to be a call to immigration for her to clarify the form she needs?
Hate her to mess things up again considering the current circumstances she has got her self into.
Any Ideas as to which form she would need to fill out as part of the ILR as this bit is unclear,
as she would have met the 5yr rule to convert with her current visa assuming it is still valid.
As the SET O form only allows ancestry option(one the predefined reason to convert to ILR from), which requires documentation to prove ancestry, this is not applicable to her, unless I'm mistaken,
she got her right to stay from her mother as am Ancestry dependent,
So assume she picks "OTHER" and explain her reason for being granted ILR ?
Or will this need to be a call to immigration for her to clarify the form she needs?
Hate her to mess things up again considering the current circumstances she has got her self into.
#4
Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
To be clear, your step daughter cannot apply for ILR on the visa she holds as a married woman. She’ll need to apply for another visa and restart her journey to ILR or leave the UK once her current visa expires.
#5
Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
Oh.. that's really bad news.
Kids why do they not listen..
Thank you for getting back to me.
Kids why do they not listen..
Thank you for getting back to me.
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Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
Oh its something she was considering, not an option this time, and processing times means it could be 6months as a bare min, and due to his circumstances more like a year
she got only till next feb on her current visa.
The other thing is that if life changes for her etc, and she decided she wanted to return 'home' for a while this will no longer be possible. all her immediate family will be uk.
I can't see a visa that she could even apply for now, what a mess.
and to think she thought it would make life easier by getting married while on hols to him last time around.
she got only till next feb on her current visa.
The other thing is that if life changes for her etc, and she decided she wanted to return 'home' for a while this will no longer be possible. all her immediate family will be uk.
I can't see a visa that she could even apply for now, what a mess.
and to think she thought it would make life easier by getting married while on hols to him last time around.
#8
Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
Oh its something she was considering, not an option this time, and processing times means it could be 6months as a bare min, and due to his circumstances more like a year
she got only till next feb on her current visa.
The other thing is that if life changes for her etc, and she decided she wanted to return 'home' for a while this will no longer be possible. all her immediate family will be uk.
I can't see a visa that she could even apply for now, what a mess.
and to think she thought it would make life easier by getting married while on hols to him last time around.
she got only till next feb on her current visa.
The other thing is that if life changes for her etc, and she decided she wanted to return 'home' for a while this will no longer be possible. all her immediate family will be uk.
I can't see a visa that she could even apply for now, what a mess.
and to think she thought it would make life easier by getting married while on hols to him last time around.
Perhaps one of the forum pros can advise on what she can do in the interim between Feb and getting her 'green card' for the US - it may be that the only option is for her to return to her home country, or possibly there is a way of being in the UK as a visitor between the two.
#9
Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
South African citizens require a visa to even visit the UK so she has made it very difficult for herself. Best thing to do would be to concentrate on emigrating to the US as soon as possible.
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Joined: May 2010
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 9,662
Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
Oh its something she was considering, not an option this time, and processing times means it could be 6months as a bare min, and due to his circumstances more like a year
she got only till next feb on her current visa.
The other thing is that if life changes for her etc, and she decided she wanted to return 'home' for a while this will no longer be possible. all her immediate family will be uk.
I can't see a visa that she could even apply for now, what a mess.
and to think she thought it would make life easier by getting married while on hols to him last time around.
she got only till next feb on her current visa.
The other thing is that if life changes for her etc, and she decided she wanted to return 'home' for a while this will no longer be possible. all her immediate family will be uk.
I can't see a visa that she could even apply for now, what a mess.
and to think she thought it would make life easier by getting married while on hols to him last time around.
She married in the US?
#11
Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
Thanks for info guys,
The US visa is a little more complicated than simply just applying and is fraught with issues which would not be right for me to discuss.
Yes she could go back to Australia, but grandparents that don't have a room for her. etc etc and hasn't really seen, and there is quality of life issues.
There is been a few options given to us by Home Office after having a chat for quite some time, its lot easier to clear up some things that change how the situation is viewed.
appears that is a possibility under her current visa, if not she would shouldbe able to extend her stay via flm(fp) route,
it will be all down to how we present our case.
But was advised to seek some legal advice before submitting to make sure we submit everything correctly.
Thanks again all
The US visa is a little more complicated than simply just applying and is fraught with issues which would not be right for me to discuss.
Yes she could go back to Australia, but grandparents that don't have a room for her. etc etc and hasn't really seen, and there is quality of life issues.
There is been a few options given to us by Home Office after having a chat for quite some time, its lot easier to clear up some things that change how the situation is viewed.
appears that is a possibility under her current visa, if not she would shouldbe able to extend her stay via flm(fp) route,
it will be all down to how we present our case.
But was advised to seek some legal advice before submitting to make sure we submit everything correctly.
Thanks again all
#12
Re: Ancestry Dependent ILR confusion on which form
Ignore the first sentence - I thought she was a South African citizen for some reason. Australians do not require a visa to visit the UK.