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Old Mar 8th 2013, 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Actually, I recently got a ticket while doing 100 (miles) on an ordinary road. The cop wrote it up as 49kph over which made me wonder if anyone ever gets a ticket for 50 or more over these days.
You must be a sweet talking barsteward. Some day your time will come. I just hope you don't take out some innocent bystander.
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Default Re: 2 Years and hate it!!

Originally Posted by dbd33
Actually, I recently got a ticket while doing 100 (miles) on an ordinary road. The cop wrote it up as 49kph over which made me wonder if anyone ever gets a ticket for 50 or more over these days.
So, what's the fine for that?
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Originally Posted by Auld Yin
So, what's the fine for that?
Dunno. It hasn't come to court. A couple of hundred Canadian, I imagine.
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Originally Posted by colchar
You pay that much because you have no Canadian driving experience. I pay just under $120 per month for two vehicles combined.


QUOTE=colchar;10592464]Using it as a driving lane is fine so long as you are exceeding the speed limit the entire time (ie. doing 120ish).
Yeah because it's so difficult to drive here, just point the car and go!
It's getting use to the incompetence of most drivers here that people have to experience!



again driving at 120ish is breaking the speed limit (which I never do, BTW )! People should use the outer lane to overtake only and then pull back in to the right lane.
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Just joined the Brit Expats website (nearing retirement now)....and I gotta say:

I have been in the Toronto area since 1982.....AND LOVE THIS COUNTRY!
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Originally Posted by pawan.chopra
Hello All,

I moved to Toronto in year 2011. Being a health professional (Occupational Therapist), I thought Canada is a good prospect. Big Mistake!!

Still no job and completely confused as to why I even came here.

Some of my views about conditions here:

Driving: People here are generally rash drivers. Everyone is speeding!! Especially on Highway 401. Car Insurance is like an Extortion by Insurance companies. I initially paid $650 / month until I got my registration and through group plan (professional Association) got it down to $300 / month. Still a lot, as compared to UK !! They do not count UK driving experience for Insurance purposes.

Health care:
Dentists want to see you and clean your teeth whenever you visit them. NOT DUE TO GOOD HEART !! But because they want to make money out of your Insurance Company and believe me, if you do not have any plan, then GOD Bless you!!
Opticians will somehow find defects in your vision or may be want you to go for complete Retina Checkup for the same reasons.
Family Physicians (compared to GP in UK) wants you to have lab tests and scans even if you have standard constipation, flue like symptoms etc. I am sure by now you can understand the reason behind this.

Job Situation: I have 10 years of Experience as a Senior Therapist in UK working both in NHS and Social Services. Guess what!!
I am no better than a new graduate here!! No UK experience counted.
I know of someone here who graduated 2 months ago and she had 3 job offers. HELLO CANADIANS!!! How is your Canadian Education better than 10 years of Experience in UK !! Just to manage my Basic Expenses I applied for Customer Service job in Walmart and I had a phone call asking me if I will be interested in doing a cleaning job because I do not have " Canadian Experience" for the job applied for.

General: People here are arrogant!! No body cares for anyone unless until money is involved.

I have decided to come back to UK.

Do your Research properly prior to coming here or do not even bother applying for Immigration.

Good Luck, if you still want to come here.

Pawan
Hi,

We have been here 3 years, June 30.

My wife secured a job quickly on arrival, I got a job also but was moved from Toronto to Calgary ( so I resigned), much to my regret.

I have applied to more jobs than I care to remember, without success. My transition to a new life here in Canada has been slow, frustrating and a test on my tolerance.

There are many thing I compare to the UK, but I remind myself of the reasons why we wanted to come here from the UK.

I hope that our persistence provides the wants and dreams we aim for. If we focus on the negative we will only see the bad, so I continue with the positive and march on.
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Originally Posted by minxymel
Hi,

We have been here 3 years, June 30.

My wife secured a job quickly on arrival, I got a job also but was moved from Toronto to Calgary ( so I resigned), much to my regret.

I have applied to more jobs than I care to remember, without success. My transition to a new life here in Canada has been slow, frustrating and a test on my tolerance.

There are many thing I compare to the UK, but I remind myself of the reasons why we wanted to come here from the UK.

I hope that our persistence provides the wants and dreams we aim for. If we focus on the negative we will only see the bad, so I continue with the positive and march on.
what were those things?..im sure being out of work long term was not one of them?
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Old Jun 6th 2013, 6:42 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Dunno. It hasn't come to court. A couple of hundred Canadian, I imagine.
"30-49 km/h The amount of km over times $6.00 = fine"

Guts of 300 plus some demerit points?
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Originally Posted by orly
"30-49 km/h The amount of km over times $6.00 = fine"

Guts of 300 plus some demerit points?
Honestly can't recall, there have been a couple since then. It can't have been a startling amount or involved a ban or I would have remembered.
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Old Aug 25th 2013, 9:50 am
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Dear Pawan,

I am a UK Qualified RN, although (after I sat my Canadian Nurse Exam) I have been able to get employment as a nurse. I can completely understand your experience. I have 20 yrs UK nursing experience in London teaching 7hospitals and then a regional ICU. 7 as a Sister but over here I have to compete with new grads. My previous experience genuinely accounts for nothing here. I have had my post "eliminated" due to cuts then I was displaced by another(Canadian) employee (the system here allows employees who have lost their job due to cuts or elimination of posts - to take the the job of anyone less senior in TIME, but experience is NOT taken into the equation unless you both have the same time!! this is complete madness, especially as I was one of the nurses recruited from the UK during a time of shortage). I know readers will not believe that this is the absolute 100% truth but it is - it has happened to me twice already in a period of 3 months. My husband also thought I was joking as did many Canadian friends but sadly I am facing this prospect this week.

As for those who have been unkind to the poster suggesting that they should have done this research - I challenge anyone to have found out this little gem of info using research. You have to be here to actually understand the levels of discrimination towards foreign healthcare workers due to "seniority in Canada". I came over at a time of shortage, the immigration minister Jason Kenny was actually interviewed on UK TV appealing for experienced UK health professionals to move to Canada & I for one did my research and all was certainly painted as rosy in the garden for those with qualifications and experience. However in fact it could not (for me at least) have been further from the truth.

A my South African GP has said that she has several UK nurses suffering in the same way as myself, none of these are inexperienced a all - one is even a midwife (a profession that doesn't even appear to exist here) but none can get employment commensurate with their experience or qualifications. It is a truly sad state of affairs and I know it doesn't help Parwan, but remember you are not in the wrong, it is the system. Stay strong and true to yourself.

Hope something has already worked out for you.

Take care

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Originally Posted by rugbymum



As for those who have been unkind to the poster suggesting that they should have done this research - I challenge anyone to have found out this little gem of info using research. You have to be here to actually understand the levels of discrimination towards foreign healthcare workers due to "seniority in Canada". I came over at a time of shortage, the immigration minister Jason Kenny was actually interviewed on UK TV appealing for experienced UK health professionals to move to Canada & I for one did my research and all was certainly painted as rosy in the garden for those with qualifications and experience. However in fact it could not (for me at least) have been further from the truth..
And there's the nub of it. Seniority. It's rotten heart of unionised professions such as healthcare and teaching. Both, of course where you really want someone who has lots of time served, rather than neccessarily the best qualified/experienced/capable person looking after you, don't you? ('Cos time served, doesn't neccessarily make you the best at what you do).

I can see how someone moving over from the UK would fail to appreciate the seniority thing. I just don't think the same rules apply back in UK. It was a shock to me for the Mrs as a teacher (& a Canadian at that) as to how long it took to get a permanent job. Add the "being an immigrant" thing on top & one might be forgiven for thinking that you'll never get a decent job.

Can't offer any concrete advice, but can offer sympathies and understanding.

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Toronto sounds like a terrible place.

I have lived in Toronto for more than 50 years and understand why it is consistently designated by international organizations as one of the best 10-15 cities in the world in which to live. Maybe not the greatest tourist destination but a wonderful place to live and raise a family.
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Originally Posted by pawan.chopra
Hello All,

I moved to Toronto in year 2011. Being a health professional (Occupational Therapist), I thought Canada is a good prospect. Big Mistake!!

Still no job and completely confused as to why I even came here.

Some of my views about conditions here:

Driving: People here are generally rash drivers. Everyone is speeding!! Especially on Highway 401. Car Insurance is like an Extortion by Insurance companies. I initially paid $650 / month until I got my registration and through group plan (professional Association) got it down to $300 / month. Still a lot, as compared to UK !! They do not count UK driving experience for Insurance purposes.

Health care:
Dentists want to see you and clean your teeth whenever you visit them. NOT DUE TO GOOD HEART !! But because they want to make money out of your Insurance Company and believe me, if you do not have any plan, then GOD Bless you!!
Opticians will somehow find defects in your vision or may be want you to go for complete Retina Checkup for the same reasons.
Family Physicians (compared to GP in UK) wants you to have lab tests and scans even if you have standard constipation, flue like symptoms etc. I am sure by now you can understand the reason behind this.

Job Situation: I have 10 years of Experience as a Senior Therapist in UK working both in NHS and Social Services. Guess what!!
I am no better than a new graduate here!! No UK experience counted.
I know of someone here who graduated 2 months ago and she had 3 job offers. HELLO CANADIANS!!! How is your Canadian Education better than 10 years of Experience in UK !! Just to manage my Basic Expenses I applied for Customer Service job in Walmart and I had a phone call asking me if I will be interested in doing a cleaning job because I do not have " Canadian Experience" for the job applied for.

General: People here are arrogant!! No body cares for anyone unless until money is involved.

I have decided to come back to UK.

Do your Research properly prior to coming here or do not even bother applying for Immigration.

Good Luck, if you still want to come here.

Pawan

Within ten minutes of my home are a number of medical clinics and a major general hospital employing thousands of medical professionals; a large community college, high schools, elementary schools employing hundreds of educators. Among them one can hear every language on Earth;see every racial, linguistic and cultural group on the planet. They did not all get hired because they had "Canadian Experience" or know someone at the top. They received their training in a multitude of countries and universities including Canada and were well-prepared, fortunate, persevering, flexible, or whatever other attributes were necessary to be hired, retained, promoted,...

This is a difficult time in most countries as we allow our politicians to drag us down to the lowest common denominator with their "global economy" rant and good, permanent jobs are becoming even harder to find and keep in our country for Canadian born and immigrant workers.

I hope you persevere and find success in finding work in Toronto or elsewhere in Canada as, despite its flaws and frustrations, it still remains one of the best places in the world to live.
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
And there's the nub of it. Seniority. It's rotten heart of unionised professions such as healthcare and teaching. Both, of course where you really want someone who has lots of time served, rather than neccessarily the best qualified/experienced/capable person looking after you, don't you? ('Cos time served, doesn't neccessarily make you the best at what you do).

I can see how someone moving over from the UK would fail to appreciate the seniority thing. I just don't think the same rules apply back in UK. It was a shock to me for the Mrs as a teacher (& a Canadian at that) as to how long it took to get a permanent job. Add the "being an immigrant" thing on top & one might be forgiven for thinking that you'll never get a decent job.

Can't offer any concrete advice, but can offer sympathies and understanding.

AX
The "rotten heart" of our society is more in the non-unionised corporate world where employees can be mistreated with relative impunity. Seniority is a reasonable and fair way of respecting workers; competence is the fair way of deciding if one keeps a job and is respected by unions when fairly implemented. I suspect that the UK has similar rules for treating workers fairly and not discriminating on the basis of age.

With declining school populations in most parts of Canada, getting into teacher training, finding a post-graduation job and reaching permanent contract status are all extremely difficult.
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Jeraboam, for future ref there's a multi-quote function.

Hit the square button next to quote on the right hand side of each post you'd like to respond to, then press quote.

HTH.
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