Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
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Re: Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
Given the demographics of Canada, the government would be well advised to do all it can to encourage more breeding.
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Re: Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
Nice as a decent haircut is, its probably not an essential component to the growth and future viability of our society, not in the same way that kids are anyway
Given the demographics of Canada, the government would be well advised to do all it can to encourage more breeding.
Given the demographics of Canada, the government would be well advised to do all it can to encourage more breeding.
That's apparently why some scandy countries are seeing higher birthrates.
I get the just-stay-home argument but clearly it's not that appealing, or practical, as a choice for many people or there wouldn't be this constant shortage of decent childcare. Society has changed. End of.
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Re: Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
Nice as a decent haircut is, its probably not an essential component to the growth and future viability of our society, not in the same way that kids are anyway
Given the demographics of Canada, the government would be well advised to do all it can to encourage more breeding.
Given the demographics of Canada, the government would be well advised to do all it can to encourage more breeding.
#35
Re: Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
Nice as a decent haircut is, its probably not an essential component to the growth and future viability of our society, not in the same way that kids are anyway
Given the demographics of Canada, the government would be well advised to do all it can to encourage more breeding.
Given the demographics of Canada, the government would be well advised to do all it can to encourage more breeding.
If living on a single income became the norm, the cost of most things would have to reduce failing which people wouldn't be able to afford them. I am not advocating for women to remain at home, I am happy to accept that men should too.
I like the suggestion that society has changed end of. I don't see that at all. I see magazines telling people that they can have it all, and people buyinig into that, but I don't accept that everyone wants to work all hours and balance the home life too (again male or female). Clearly, they don't understand that they have no one but themselves to blame for needing to work all hours, but it is possible to live without doing so.
#36
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I suspect the a double income has become the norm. The cost of living here seems to rise year on year far beyond most peoples wage increases, and most of the families I know have both parents working, pretty much out of necessity, not just to fund the more aspirational aspects of a dream lifestlye. They just want to have money to put kids in hockey for example. Most of the people I work with dont holiday overseas or have a garage full of motorised toys.
This is out in the boonies where property costs have not risen dramatically, lord knows what ordinary people in Vancouver have to do if they wish to have a family and a own a home.
Perhaps this in part explains the worrying debt levels in Canada.
Im guessing stats canada will have information on dual income family trends if anyone can be bothered.
This is out in the boonies where property costs have not risen dramatically, lord knows what ordinary people in Vancouver have to do if they wish to have a family and a own a home.
Perhaps this in part explains the worrying debt levels in Canada.
Im guessing stats canada will have information on dual income family trends if anyone can be bothered.
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Re: Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
Well, you're making a moral judgement based on your perceptions. I don't agree with it so we'll just have to agree to disagree on WHY people need childcare. Do you agree there is demand for it though and that demand outstrips supply?
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Re: Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
I suspect the a double income has become the norm. The cost of living here seems to rise year on year far beyond most peoples wage increases, and most of the families I know have both parents working, pretty much out of necessity, not just to fund the more aspirational aspects of a dream lifestlye. They just want to have money to put kids in hockey for example. Most of the people I work with dont holiday overseas or have a garage full of motorised toys.
This is out in the boonies where property costs have not risen dramatically, lord knows what ordinary people in Vancouver have to do if they wish to have a family and a own a home.
Perhaps this in part explains the worrying debt levels in Canada.
This is out in the boonies where property costs have not risen dramatically, lord knows what ordinary people in Vancouver have to do if they wish to have a family and a own a home.
Perhaps this in part explains the worrying debt levels in Canada.
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Re: Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
I agree Lancaster but for a lot of people that's just too much money to pay for childcare, yet they have/want to work. In this country working also means, probably, access to extended health benefits, for instance, all those things that help keep a family relatively secure when the unexpected happens in Canada. The social safety net here is so weak.
There is a disconnect there though. Agreed.
I wish schools went 8-6. Or even 9-6. That would help.
There is a disconnect there though. Agreed.
I wish schools went 8-6. Or even 9-6. That would help.
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Re: Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
I suspect the a double income has become the norm. The cost of living here seems to rise year on year far beyond most peoples wage increases, and most of the families I know have both parents working, pretty much out of necessity, not just to fund the more aspirational aspects of a dream lifestlye. They just want to have money to put kids in hockey for example. Most of the people I work with dont holiday overseas or have a garage full of motorised toys.
This is out in the boonies where property costs have not risen dramatically, lord knows what ordinary people in Vancouver have to do if they wish to have a family and a own a home.
Perhaps this in part explains the worrying debt levels in Canada.
This is out in the boonies where property costs have not risen dramatically, lord knows what ordinary people in Vancouver have to do if they wish to have a family and a own a home.
Perhaps this in part explains the worrying debt levels in Canada.
How can the cost of living increase unless people are able to meet the increase? Why is real estate in Vancouver more expensive than in Winnipeg? If people didn't wish to live there, the cost of real estate would decrease wouldn't it?
The cost of items rises each year, as more people want more stuff. It cannot rise without the demand.
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Re: Why is childcare so expensive/hard to find?
Seems pretty easy to solve. Just make it easier for people to become child minders and let competition do the work.
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Thats not how distance runners work... father needs a slower pace, but your point has been lost on me Im afraid.
How can the cost of living increase unless people are able to meet the increase?
Its fed by the rising debt levels perhaps, or reduced or non existent savings
Why is real estate in Vancouver more expensive than in Winnipeg?
Because of outside speculative investment?
If people didn't wish to live there, the cost of real estate would decrease wouldn't it?
You would think. Im guessing people buy thinking it will continue to go up, or that its worth it for the weather.
How can the cost of living increase unless people are able to meet the increase?
Why is real estate in Vancouver more expensive than in Winnipeg?
If people didn't wish to live there, the cost of real estate would decrease wouldn't it?