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Steve_P Mar 13th 2009 5:31 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by penny farthing (Post 7376384)
Oh please ... deadly fast food?
only if you eat it daily in vast quantities and are stupid enough to buy it.

You mean it's OK if it's free? :confused:

MikeUK Mar 13th 2009 7:51 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by clynnog (Post 7376331)
CAMRA would have drawn and quartered if you dared mentioned 'beer' and 'lager' in the same sentence.

They would if I had used Ale and Lager, but most CAMRA members know very little about beer, they just spew retoric

But lager is just a type of beer of which I would say are about 12 different styles

Wheat Beer, Lambics, Belgian Ales, Pale Ale, English Bitter, Scotish Ale, Brown Ale, Porter, Stout, Pilsner, American lager, European lager, Bock, Alt, French Ale, German Amber Ale, American Special, Smoked Beer, Barley Wine and Strong ales

and CAMRA just tend to focus on about five of them, and most of there members just one

Souvenir Mar 13th 2009 7:56 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 7376726)
They would if I had used Ale and Lager, but most CAMRA members know very little about beer, they just spew retoric

But lager is just a type of beer of which I would say are about 12 different styles

Wheat Beer, Lambics, Belgian Ales, Pale Ale, English Bitter, Scotish Ale, Brown Ale, Porter, Stout, Pilsner, American lager, European lager, Bock, Alt, French Ale, German Amber Ale, American Special, Smoked Beer, Barley Wine and Strong ales

and CAMRA just tend to focus on about five of them, and most of there members just one

How does Pilsner differ from European lager? Keep it simple, please.

MikeUK Mar 13th 2009 8:04 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir (Post 7376731)
How does Pilsner differ from European lager? Keep it simple, please.

A Pilsner has a stronger hop flavour and higher bitterness than a European lager

Simple enough!

like confusing mild and bitter........

Souvenir Mar 13th 2009 8:06 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 7376749)
A Pilsner has a stronger hop flavour and higher bitterness than a European lager

Simple enough!

like confusing mild and bitter........

Ok. So, while Urquell is a pilsner, something like Stella would be a European lager?

MikeUK Mar 13th 2009 8:20 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir (Post 7376757)
Ok. So, while Urquell is a pilsner, something like Stella would be a European lager?

Urquell is a clasic example of a bohemian pilsner

Stella whould be a Europen lager although not a great example

Souvenir Mar 13th 2009 8:24 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 7376779)
Urquell is a clasic example of a bohemian pilsner

Stella whould be a Europen lager although not a great example

Not a great example, I admit. Just the first one that came to mind.

What would the Quebec beer Tremblay be? It reminds me much of Urquell, or Becks.

clynnog Mar 13th 2009 8:41 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Souvenir (Post 7376757)
Ok. So, while Urquell is a pilsner, something like Stella would be a European lager?

Stella is a bland example of eurolager..it does sell in truckloads and it has been marketed to people here as a high end lager.

clynnog Mar 13th 2009 8:45 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 7376726)
They would if I had used Ale and Lager, but most CAMRA members know very little about beer, they just spew retoric

But lager is just a type of beer of which I would say are about 12 different styles

Wheat Beer, Lambics, Belgian Ales, Pale Ale, English Bitter, Scotish Ale, Brown Ale, Porter, Stout, Pilsner, American lager, European lager, Bock, Alt, French Ale, German Amber Ale, American Special, Smoked Beer, Barley Wine and Strong ales

and CAMRA just tend to focus on about five of them, and most of there members just one

Are you a 'bitter' ex-CAMRA member. I've run into those sorts in pubs in the UK and they can be rather like train spotters in their obsessiveness in regards to beer, ABV, IBU values etc.

Here is a useful local beer site (very GTA centric)

http://www.bartowel.com/

http://www.greatcanadianpubs.blogspot.com/


Mike/Souvenir..ever tried Lug Tread from Beau's Brewery in Vankleek Hill, Ontario..

PaulandNikki Mar 13th 2009 9:38 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 
Spinnakers in Victoria serves real ale at 10C. Perfect.

MikeUK Mar 13th 2009 10:19 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by clynnog (Post 7376836)
Are you a 'bitter' ex-CAMRA member. I've run into those sorts in pubs in the UK and they can be rather like train spotters in their obsessiveness in regards to beer, ABV, IBU values etc.

Here is a useful local beer site (very GTA centric)

http://www.bartowel.com/

http://www.greatcanadianpubs.blogspot.com/


Mike/Souvenir..ever tried Lug Tread from Beau's Brewery in Vankleek Hill, Ontario..

I work in a 'Local' Brewery and have worked for Interbrew and Bass in the past

In my world 'Craft Beer' means the brewmaster hasn't a clue about the Biochemistry in his beer, so he has no idea why some brews go bad and why some are great, doesn't mean to say he doesn't brew great tasting beers, just that he doesn't know the 'why' and drinking it can be hit or miss
Fellows Morton and Clayton in Nottingham was a classic, when it was good it was brilliant, when it was bad it was awful, and it changed from brew to brew

I've never heard of Beau's Brewery and to be honest North American Micro breweries (not all) have a bad habit of putting in to many hops and then boiling the sh1t out of them giving rise to what I'd call a nasty hop tea with a hint of malt and alcohol

having said that I still keep trying them out :blink:

BristolUK Mar 13th 2009 10:52 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by clynnog (Post 7376822)
Stella is a bland example of eurolager..it does sell in truckloads and it has been marketed to people here as a high end lager.

Wasn't it the same in the UK...advertised as "Reassuringly expensive" as I recall.
Grolsch was my favourite of that kind.:)

Novocastrian Mar 13th 2009 10:58 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by penny farthing (Post 7376384)
Oh please ... deadly fast food?
only if you eat it daily in vast quantities and are stupid enough to buy it.
Or maybe you mean the USA or UK Chip Shops

Oh, and too little irony.

pacepeter Mar 13th 2009 12:44 pm

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 
that is very true so much red tape

Lord Vader Mar 13th 2009 2:46 pm

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7367279)
Gibberish.

Still let's see if we can deconstruct it and derive some sort of meaning.

Firstly, putting quotes around exclusive makes a lie of the term, the author knows that there aren't any exclusively cultural-specific retail developments.
One can buy a hot dog, Polish or Italian sausage at the Pacific Mall in Markham. Incidentally that's a place I first knew about because my highly Jewish office manager gets her bootleg Abercrombie scarfs there; a perfect example of cross-cultural synthesis.

Secondly, a mall in which an ethnicity predominates among the stall holders, such as the Pacific Mall, isn't actually culturally specific. The traders are nearly all Asian (Asian in American usage, not English) but that doesn't make them all the same. Even I can distinguish westernized, gadget crazy Japanese or Malaysian bimbos from Laotian Bhuddists.

Thirdly, the cultural orientation of a retail facility derives from the local population, not the other way around. Thus, the Welfare Mall (also called Gerrard Square), for example, once had mainly stores catering to white people, then to Indians and now it has mainly stores run by Vietnamese people. It's not the case that if you put up a perogie store Poles will swarm into the neighbourhood.

Fourthly, well, I was going to take a crack at "diminish overall community cohesiveness" on the basis that there isn't any to begin with but really this is just such a feeble phrase. He's a secret admirer of Jack Layton isn't he?

So you would agree that it makes no sense to limit the cultures to being Asian specific then? It should be whomever wants to open a store can do so?


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