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DaveLovesDee Mar 18th 2009 7:53 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Mr Lee (Post 7394862)
Exactly. So much for "Fair Trade"...

Exactly, but it's not the fault of the US in this case, is it? It's the Canadian government collecting the taxes we would have paid if we'd bought the item in Canada.

It doesn't matter which political party is in power, it's still the same Federal employees who have to implement policy.

Mr Lee Mar 18th 2009 7:55 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 7394873)
Exactly, but it's not the fault of the US in this case, is it? It's the Canadian government collecting the taxes we would have paid if we'd bought the item in Canada.

It doesn't matter which political party is in power, it's still the same Federal employees who have to implement policy.

Well - errr... this is the "What's wrong with Canada?" thread isn't it? ;)

act1980 Mar 18th 2009 7:55 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 7394873)
Exactly, but it's not the fault of the US in this case, is it? It's the Canadian government collecting the taxes we would have paid if we'd bought the item in Canada.

It doesn't matter which political party is in power, it's still the same Federal employees who have to implement policy.

What if your going across to get something you can't buy in Canada? It's not fair they still tax you then IMO.:(

JonboyE Mar 18th 2009 8:06 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 
NAFTA applies to goods manufactured in Canada, USA and Mexico. There are no customs charges and duties on these items. However, you may have to pay a fee to a freight company to process the cross border transaction.

Anything manufactured outside the NAFTA countries may have customs duty applied when you import it into Canada.

If you buy a Chinese made TV in Future Shop for $1,000, the price includes the duty when it was imported into Canada. Say $500 (import price) @ 5% = $25.00

If you go to the US and buy the same TV for $650 that price includes the duty when it was imported into the US. Say $450 (import price) @ 5% = $22.50. Unfortunately, because it was not manufactured in a NAFTA country you have to pay duty again when you import it into Canada. The duty is now based on the price you paid so you will pay something like USD650 * 1.27 = CAD825.50 @ 5% = $41.28. You will also pay GST and, depending on your province, PST. Also, depending on your province you may have also paid the US state sales tax.

DaveLovesDee Mar 18th 2009 8:07 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 7394927)
NAFTA applies to goods manufactured in Canada, USA and Mexico. There are no customs charges and duties on these items. However, you may have to pay a fee to a freight company to process the cross border transaction.

Anything manufactured outside the NAFTA countries may have customs duty applied when you import it into Canada.

If you buy a Chinese made TV in Future Shop for $1,000, the price includes the duty when it was imported into Canada. Say $500 (import price) @ 5% = $25.00

If you go to the US and buy the same TV for $650 that price includes the duty when it was imported into the US. Say $450 (import price) @ 5% = $22.50. Unfortunately, because it was not manufactured in a NAFTA country you have to pay duty again when you import it into Canada. The duty is now based on the price you paid so you will pay something like USD650 * 1.27 = CAD825.50 @ 5% = $41.28. You will also pay GST and, depending on your province, PST. Also, depending on your province you may have also paid the US state sales tax.

Thanks for the info.

act1980 Mar 18th 2009 9:05 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 7394927)
NAFTA applies to goods manufactured in Canada, USA and Mexico. There are no customs charges and duties on these items. However, you may have to pay a fee to a freight company to process the cross border transaction.

Anything manufactured outside the NAFTA countries may have customs duty applied when you import it into Canada.

If you buy a Chinese made TV in Future Shop for $1,000, the price includes the duty when it was imported into Canada. Say $500 (import price) @ 5% = $25.00

If you go to the US and buy the same TV for $650 that price includes the duty when it was imported into the US. Say $450 (import price) @ 5% = $22.50. Unfortunately, because it was not manufactured in a NAFTA country you have to pay duty again when you import it into Canada. The duty is now based on the price you paid so you will pay something like USD650 * 1.27 = CAD825.50 @ 5% = $41.28. You will also pay GST and, depending on your province, PST. Also, depending on your province you may have also paid the US state sales tax.

Thanks for that info!! I couldn't get over how expensive Revlon makeup was in Canada, I am sure that is made in the USA though:confused: And it is literally half the price in the states.:(

JonboyE Mar 18th 2009 9:14 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 
Consumer goods are priced to maximize the sellers profit objectives. Costs, including taxes, have little influence on the selling price.

Edited to add: The thought process is not "this costs x to make, lets try to sell it at x + 20%". Rather it is "the punters will pay y for this if we market it this way. Can we make it for y less 30% or better? Yes! Go for it".

act1980 Mar 18th 2009 9:17 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 7395174)
Consumer goods are priced to maximize the sellers profit objectives. Costs, including taxes, have little influence on the selling price.

Oh ok, that makes sense. Shame for us consumers though:(

DaveLovesDee Mar 18th 2009 9:26 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 
If we'll pay it, they'll sell it to us at that price. If we won't, the price will either come down or the company will go bust, in theory.

FlirtyKnickers Mar 18th 2009 9:27 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 7395206)
If we'll pay it, they'll sell it to us at that price. If we won't, the price will either come down or the company will go bust, in theory.

So....Are we buying or selling?:rofl:

act1980 Mar 18th 2009 9:29 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by FlirtyKnickers (Post 7395210)
So....Are we buying or selling?:rofl:

I won't be buying at their prices:p:rofl:

FlirtyKnickers Mar 18th 2009 9:35 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by act1980 (Post 7395219)
I won't be buying at their prices:p:rofl:

Oh i see.....What were we buying again? I'm having a senior moment:rofl::rofl:

act1980 Mar 18th 2009 9:42 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by FlirtyKnickers (Post 7395239)
Oh i see.....What were we buying again? I'm having a senior moment:rofl::rofl:

Makeup!! Revlon to be specific :rofl::rofl:

Butch Cassidy Mar 18th 2009 9:44 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by act1980 (Post 7395269)
Makeup!! Revlon to be specific :rofl::rofl:

FK doesnt wear make-up................................................ .....


























she uses polyfilla

DaveLovesDee Mar 18th 2009 9:44 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by FlirtyKnickers (Post 7395210)
So....Are we buying or selling?:rofl:

I'm doing neither if I can help it. Can't afford to buy, and nothing worth selling.....


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