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dbd33 Mar 4th 2009 11:49 pm

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 7346942)
Canadian culture could be describe as "northern North American culture" perhaps. There is a Canadian culture, it is not very different from American culture. However no matter what it is called there is indeed a culture to be adapted to. Canadian culture is the default name. If people can blend into American culture then they can blend into "Canadian" culture rather than act like they never left home.


I disagree completely. I think the defining feature of Canada is a cultural void.

Yes, Canada shares some features with the US. Economically it's a subsidiary of the US. Politically, when Canada has a Conservative government, it's a subsidiary of the US, but Canada is different. It's different because the philosophy of the US, the melting pot, acknowledges the country's dependence on immigration and seeks to create unity from diversity, whereas the governing philosophy of Canada, multi-culturalism, acknowledges that there's not much here and invites immigrants to live in the manner to which they are accustomed.

One may argue that the result isn't very different. NYC has a similarly diverse population to Toronto. Even though more than half the popuilation of Toronto was born outside Canada, the city with the largest proportion of population born abroad is in the US, not Canada. Both countries have two main languages. I think though that there's a vast difference between inviting people to come to a country with a view to helping to create something new and inviting people to come to a country and to be semi-detached.

Don't read me wrongly, I support multi-culturalism. I support it because it enriches the country. Hyphenated Canadians bring interest to a country in which the established population has the imagination and charisma of the autistic. I think though that the reason Canada needs multi-culturalism is to give it something, anything.

pennyhp Mar 4th 2009 11:50 pm

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 
This may have been said (this thread is long and I confess I havn't read every post)

They serve donnair sauce with pizza.....sweet and yucky.

JamesM Mar 4th 2009 11:53 pm

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by act1980 (Post 7332337)
YUCK!!!!!!!!! That is a crime!! It sounds horrific!!:eek::eek:

You can get Poutine at the Maple Leaf in Covant Garden. Don't knock it until you've tried it!

AllyS Mar 5th 2009 12:50 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 
I can't wait to try Poutine.

Apparently it is VERY calorific!

smog73 Mar 5th 2009 12:53 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 
Poutine is great-we brought some packets of st huberts mix back with us from holiday and are trying to save them for "special" times. We also have a tin of baked beans with maple syrup that we are saving!!

snowshoveller Mar 5th 2009 5:00 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by AllyS (Post 7347965)
I can't wait to try Poutine.

Apparently it is VERY calorific!


just think of your heart!

Candy001 Mar 5th 2009 5:04 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 
Winters that last 4-6months
-30 temperatures
Cold Weather Alerts

On the other hand summers make up for it - providing you have AC
Hot and humid - +30 temps

One extreme to the other!

snowshoveller Mar 5th 2009 5:12 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Candy001 (Post 7348622)
Winters that last 6-8months
-30 temperatures (-50 with windchill)
Cold Weather Alerts - the weather can kill you

On the other hand summers make up for it - providing you have AC
Hot and humid - +40 temps with the humidex

One extreme to the other!

edited for accuracy;)

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nikki dreaming Mar 5th 2009 5:16 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by James Martindale (Post 7347821)
You can get Poutine at the Maple Leaf in Covant Garden. Don't knock it until you've tried it!

OH had it a few months back when we visited The Maple Leaf, he liked it too:thumbup:

MikeUK Mar 5th 2009 5:22 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Candy001 (Post 7348622)
Winters that last 4-6months
-30 temperatures
Cold Weather Alerts

On the other hand summers make up for it - providing you have AC
Hot and humid - +30 temps

One extreme to the other!

if you add it together, on an average, Canada has quite reasonable weather :D

FlirtyKnickers Mar 5th 2009 7:45 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by nikki dreaming (Post 7348662)
OH had it a few months back when we visited The Maple Leaf, he liked it too:thumbup:

Yes he did, and the beer too;)

Souvenir Mar 5th 2009 7:51 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by James Martindale (Post 7347821)
You can get Poutine at the Maple Leaf in Covant Garden. Don't knock it until you've tried it!

Then knock it.

Pebblebeach Mar 5th 2009 8:41 am

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by AllyS (Post 7347965)
I can't wait to try Poutine.

Apparently it is VERY calorific!

Poutine is fabby after a hard morning skiing:thumbsup:

Lord Vader Mar 5th 2009 2:25 pm

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7347813)
I disagree completely. I think the defining feature of Canada is a cultural void.

Yes, Canada shares some features with the US. Economically it's a subsidiary of the US. Politically, when Canada has a Conservative government, it's a subsidiary of the US, but Canada is different. It's different because the philosophy of the US, the melting pot, acknowledges the country's dependence on immigration and seeks to create unity from diversity, whereas the governing philosophy of Canada, multi-culturalism, acknowledges that there's not much here and invites immigrants to live in the manner to which they are accustomed.
One may argue that the result isn't very different. NYC has a similarly diverse population to Toronto. Even though more than half the popuilation of Toronto was born outside Canada, the city with the largest proportion of population born abroad is in the US, not Canada. Both countries have two main languages. I think though that there's a vast difference between inviting people to come to a country with a view to helping to create something new and inviting people to come to a country and to be semi-detached.

So you agree that Canada and the US are similar and that North America is divided into regions that cross the border but that all culture stops because of this border. So you are saying that someone born in Maine has culture but someone born 10 miles away in New Brunswick does not? Even though they play the same sports and eat the same food and listen to the same music and have the same accent and wear the same clothes. What about Vancouver and Seattle?

Don't read me wrongly, I support multi-culturalism. I support it because it enriches the country. Hyphenated Canadians bring interest to a country in which the established population has the imagination and charisma of the autistic. I think though that the reason Canada needs multi-culturalism is to give it something, anything.
Have you tried shaking your head back and forth rapidly for a few seconds?

Umpatan Mar 5th 2009 2:39 pm

Re: What's wrong with Canada?
 

Originally Posted by Lord Vader (Post 7335108)
I wish this too, we have our Liberal Party to thank for that. All the PC and multicultural BS is taking its toll. I am not interested one iota in importing Asian, European or African cultures in Canada. That is what Asia, Europe and Africa are for. Multiculturalism is nothing more than modern day segregation. It discourages unity and creates ghetto's of single cultures rather than encourage unity and coming together. If someone from elsewhere is coming here than it is they who need to adapt, not everyone else. People also need to come to grips with what a secular society is and that nobody cares about what their religion is or whether they find something offensive or not. Some people can grasp this while it is lost on others.

Then how do the ethnic minorities maintain their cultural heritage throughout the generations? Can you imagine a Chinese born in Canada not writing those complicated chinese characters? There must be a mode for them to maintain their distinct ethnic identity. The Sikhs need to keep their temples to provide free meals so even I, can go there to eat as a Caucasian non believer. We don't need them becoming bananas.


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