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Old Mar 24th 2017, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by AzLar41
Thanks all!
Very useful.
I work in the IT industry, service management type roles.
Then be aware that it's increasingly staffed by contractors, people who have no need to worry about vacation allowances, sick pay and the like.
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For me, now:
  • 8.30-4.30 and very little expected beyond that.
  • 3 weeks paid leave plus stat holidays and I didnt need to accrue it.
  • Can work from home if I need to
  • My kids are older now so they hang out at home or the barn (my oldest) or at friends or at a camp or something. I am thinking of getting my youngest into a camp this year that teaches them to write video/minecraft type stuff. Anything you pay out for sports/arts etc for these camps you can claim back on your tax return (up to a certain limit). Before I used a baby sitter at $25 a day per child which is the going rate here.
  • sick pay, benefits etc
Last job had the same leave, perks etc but I never ever stopped working, the work load was so intense, so it depends on the organization.
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Old Mar 24th 2017, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Howefamily
...Before I used a baby sitter at $25 a day per child which is the going rate here...
Sshh...don't tell the Toronto and Vancouver crowd, they'll be jealous.
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Originally Posted by AzLar41
So with two weeks pay and 8 weeks off what do the majority do? take unpaid leave? just doesn't sound overly feasible?
thanks
Summer camps, residential or day camps depending on needs and funds.
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Old Mar 24th 2017, 10:50 pm
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Default Re: ?Whats work life balance like?

Originally Posted by AzLar41
I agree with Aviator.

I've noticed though that there seem to be more companies offering three weeks holiday now than 6 years ago. But you're talking about an increase from maybe 0.25% to 0.5% of companies.

For the perks you need to be working for the big corporates. I worked for TD Insurance for a while. I hated the job but I got 4 weeks off (holiday and personal days combined). I got 2 weeks sick at full pay. Pension, free banking, 5% credit card, staff mortgage,massively discounted insurance and a few other things I can't even remember.

why so?
It might be just me but I'm not call centre material.
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Old Mar 24th 2017, 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by DandNHill
It might be just me but I'm not call centre material.
No, I don't think it's just you.

I read the book and saw the movie 8 Minutes Idle.
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Old Mar 24th 2017, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
No, I don't think it's just you.

I read the book and saw the movie 8 Minutes Idle.
I haven't read it but an example was their efforts at team building. I think I was too old to enjoy chair races around the office. That or I'm a miserable old cow!!! When I left, after only being there 5 months, some of my colleagues said they hated it but stayed because the money was good. Yes the money was good but there's no way I could have stayed. They asked if I would like to transfer to Ontario. I politely said no. Lol
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Old Mar 25th 2017, 12:57 am
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Originally Posted by DandNHill
I haven't read it but an example was their efforts at team building. I think I was too old to enjoy chair races around the office. ...
No races but we did do the character 'label' on our heads where we had to ask questions to identify who we were and throwing a ball of string among the group so it made a tangled mess.

After 22 years working I'd never done anything like it.

Not a call centre though.
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Work/life balance? Give me a break, if you don’t work, you don’t get no money. You’ll be getting like them bloody beatniks before you know it, ban the bomb and do naff all for a living.
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Old Mar 25th 2017, 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by Oink
Work/life balance? Give me a break, if you don’t work, you don’t get no money. You’ll be getting like them bloody beatniks before you know it, ban the bomb and do naff all for a living.
Maybe the beatniks got it right? Peace man!
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Originally Posted by Aviator
Employees don't in actuality get 2 weeks off, what they get is 4% of what they earn accrued as vacation pay. Until you have earned it you cannot be paid for vacation. Overtime and bonuses also attract vacation pay, so one can end up with more than the equivalent of 2 weeks.
4% works out to 2 weeks so that's often stated as the minimum which I think is paltry. It puts Canada near the bottom of the list among developed countries, even when you include statutory paid holidays.
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Old Mar 25th 2017, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by jandro
4% works out to 2 weeks so that's often stated as the minimum which I think is paltry. It puts Canada near the bottom of the list among developed countries, even when you include statutory paid holidays.
A previous employer and I got talking about this. He said that so many businesses would go under if they had to give more time offf. To which I replied that U.K. companies manage so I can't see why Canadians ones couldn't.
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Originally Posted by Oink
Work/life balance? Give me a break, if you don’t work, you don’t get no money. You’ll be getting like them bloody beatniks before you know it, ban the bomb and do naff all for a living.
On Beatnik, WTF Oink, have you been watching another documentary & 'what if anything would you know personally about the 'Beatnik youth culture' - did you hear it from your grandad how great that time or the generation was?

On the OP, it's quite simple as Oink pointed out...

The proverb - "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy". Simply that if a person does not take time off from work, they will become both bored and boring. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, All play and no work makes Jack a mere toy.

Take Oink as an example that is not dull fisherman

OP, are you bored or a toy?
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Originally Posted by DandNHill
A previous employer and I got talking about this. He said that so many businesses would go under if they had to give more time offf. To which I replied that U.K. companies manage so I can't see why Canadians ones couldn't.
Everything is affordable, it is reflected in prices. The higher the labour cost, the higher the price end users pay (or production moves offshore).
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Old Mar 25th 2017, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Aviator
Everything is affordable, it is reflected in prices. The higher the labour cost, the higher the price end users pay (or production moves offshore).
Not necessarily. The company I worked consisted of two company directors/owners and me as management. Then about 10 other staff.
In my opinion when you own a small company you need to be putting in a days work which they didn't do. They could easily have given us all one extra week off and for 1 week per month (average) they could have covered for us (the company does animal control / pound and a few seasonal ad hoc services. They knew how to do the work as that's how they started the company but it was better to watch the staff sweat and flaunt all the expensive trivial tat they bought with the money they were saving by underpaying the staff.... which is why I left!!
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