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What's it for?
Hi,
We have an unfinished basement which has a basic plastic sink that was put in when the house was built. The hot / cold pipes drop down from the basement ceiling to the sink. Joined in to the tap fitting there is a narrow clear plastic pipe that comes up from the basement floor. When you turn a tap on it seems to draw water or something up through this clear plastic pipe. Anyone know what it's for? Thanks Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Is there anything on the other end of the plastic pipe?
Many, many years ago when I worked for a certain fast-food company we used to have a system where there was a plastic pipe fitted into the nozzle of one of the taps in the kitchen sink and when you turned the tap on it drew washing up liquid up the pipe from a container under the sink. It could be something like that. |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by JaffaMafia
(Post 5601962)
Is there anything on the other end of the plastic pipe?
Many, many years ago when I worked for a certain fast-food company we used to have a system where there was a plastic pipe fitted into the nozzle of one of the taps in the kitchen sink and when you turned the tap on it drew washing up liquid up the pipe from a container under the sink. It could be something like that. |
Re: What's it for?
It is the drain for a washing machine, washing machines usually drain through a hose which is placed in this pipe. As you have already noticed there are a set of taps close by.
You will probably notice a 220volt outlet close by, that will be for the dryer and most likely there will also be a vent reasonably high up on the outside wall big enough to put a 3 or 4 inch pipe on for the dryer exhaust. ;) |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Steve_P
(Post 5602223)
It is the drain for a washing machine, washing machines usually drain through a hose which is placed in this pipe. As you have already noticed there are a set of taps close by.
You will probably notice a 220volt outlet close by, that will be for the dryer and most likely there will also be a vent reasonably high up on the outside wall big enough to put a 3 or 4 inch pipe on for the dryer exhaust. ;) I'm guessing water from the tap probably wouldn't be safe to drink! Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by mjanovitz
(Post 5602420)
No I dont think it is that, the laundry room is up stairs, with the electrical outlet and vent u mentioned. This is just a clear plastic pipe that is fixed in to the concrete floor and one end and in to the tap fixture at the other. When you turn the tap on it appears that the effect of running water through the tap syphons water up from the ground and I can see the point of it really.
I'm guessing water from the tap probably wouldn't be safe to drink! Mark Sorry I have no clue. :( |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Steve_P
(Post 5602427)
So much for my theory then. :confused:
Sorry I have no clue. :( |
Re: What's it for?
I'm wondering if it's designed to ensure that the pipe to the sewer line doesn't dry out and cause sewer gas.
In our house we have a water softener next to a sink in the basement, and the water softener has a hose that empties into a drain next to the sink. But Calgary has hard water, and water softeners are quite common here. They are less common in some other parts of Canada. |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Judy in Calgary
(Post 5602482)
I'm wondering if it's designed to ensure that the pipe to the sewer line doesn't dry out and cause sewer gas.
In our house we have a water softener next to a sink in the basement, and the water softener has a hose that empties into a drain next to the sink. But Calgary has hard water, and water softeners are quite common here. They are less common in some other parts of Canada. |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by mjanovitz
(Post 5601761)
Hi,
We have an unfinished basement which has a basic plastic sink that was put in when the house was built. The hot / cold pipes drop down from the basement ceiling to the sink. Joined in to the tap fitting there is a narrow clear plastic pipe that comes up from the basement floor. When you turn a tap on it seems to draw water or something up through this clear plastic pipe. Anyone know what it's for? Thanks Mark P traps in a sink thats not used often will dry out, and provide a direct path to the main sewer. now when you open the tap, you may have a syphonic action happening that is sucking waste water from the trap. Is the sink used often? if not run water to refill the trap, and get this looked at,,,you have a chance of cross contamination of sewer, and drinking water, and the possibility of sewer gas buid up. |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by bobbiel
(Post 5603885)
All water line connections are made above ground, I think this may be a crude (and against code) way of adding water to the "P" trap.
P traps in a sink thats not used often will dry out, and provide a direct path to the main sewer. now when you open the tap, you may have a syphonic action happening that is sucking waste water from the trap. Is the sink used often? if not run water to refill the trap, and get this looked at,,,you have a chance of cross contamination of sewer, and drinking water, and the possibility of sewer gas buid up. I also have a small plastic box on the living room wall near the floor with DSC on it but no other markings. I have no idea what that is either, but thats for another time! Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Did you not think to ask the real estate agent when you looked at the house? Or the person who did your pre-purchase home inspection?
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Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Dorothy
(Post 5604010)
Did you not think to ask the real estate agent when you looked at the house? Or the person who did your pre-purchase home inspection?
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Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
(Post 5602499)
Water softener was one thought, another might be a drain from an air exchanger.
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Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by wiggs1034
(Post 5604096)
Or a drain from a humidifier?
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Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by mjanovitz
(Post 5603997)
The sink is not used often. I have looked at it again today and I think i was mistaken as now when i turned either the hot or cold taps on i can see water going along the pipe from the tap fixture in to the ground. I will take some photos and posted them, that male help. Not liking the sound of the sewer gas build up!!!! Thanks for the advice though!
I also have a small plastic box on the living room wall near the floor with DSC on it but no other markings. I have no idea what that is either, but thats for another time! Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by bobbiel
(Post 5603885)
All water line connections are made above ground, I think this may be a crude (and against code) way of adding water to the "P" trap.
P traps in a sink thats not used often will dry out, and provide a direct path to the main sewer. now when you open the tap, you may have a syphonic action happening that is sucking waste water from the trap. Is the sink used often? if not run water to refill the trap, and get this looked at,,,you have a chance of cross contamination of sewer, and drinking water, and the possibility of sewer gas buid up. Is the water coming up this pipe or down when the tap is on isnt it anyway? I have no idea what its for. If it were an overflow or a drain why would it syphon water up or down when the tap is on? Could it be an overflow pipe? Does it flow even if the plug is in the sink and nothing is going down the drain? Im wondering if the drain were partly blocked, would it be possible that back pressure is pushing waste water back up an overflow? Any pictures yet? |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Oakvillian
(Post 5606032)
Can't help with the mysterious pipe in the basement (my guess would have been a drain from a heat exchanger or humidifier... perhaps a rough-in for one that was never installed?) but the box with DSC on it may have something to do with a security system - DSC (Digital Security Controls) is a Canadian manufacturer of alarms and intrusion detection systems. Don't know why it would be mounted near the floor, though? Try www.dsc.com for more info.
Thanks for your help with that. Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by mjanovitz
(Post 5606235)
We do have a security system so it is probably something to do with that then, not sure what though.
Thanks for your help with that. Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 5606068)
Surely when you turn on the tap to trigger this syphoning action, the majority of the water is going to end up going down the drain into the trap anyway making it a bit redundant:confused:
Is the water coming up this pipe or down when the tap is on isnt it anyway? I have no idea what its for. If it were an overflow or a drain why would it syphon water up or down when the tap is on? Could it be an overflow pipe? Does it flow even if the plug is in the sink and nothing is going down the drain? Im wondering if the drain were partly blocked, would it be possible that back pressure is pushing waste water back up an overflow? Any pictures yet? Charged up my camera last night so will take some photos today and add them on. Thanks Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Souvenir
(Post 5606241)
Could be a phone link to a central security place.
Mark |
Re: What's it for?
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I have attached some photographs, if it helps. The pipe in question goes straight from the tap fixture in to the concrete floor.
Sorry about the quality but without the flash they were too dark and with the flash washed out so took them without the flash and used software to lighten them. Thanks Mark |
Re: What's it for?
I wonder if the area you are in is prone to the land drying out. Many basement floors "float" so if the water lever rises they don't crack as quickly. Here in Winnipeg a new house would always have a sump pump to remove water. I wonder if your pipe is to add water in the event of the ground sinking due to drying out.
Best to get expert advice on this one, otherwise your basement floor might start cracking. |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by mjanovitz
(Post 5606374)
I have attached some photographs, if it helps. The pipe in question goes straight from the tap fixture in to the concrete floor.
Sorry about the quality but without the flash they were too dark and with the flash washed out so took them without the flash and used software to lighten them. Thanks Mark Is it to perhaps control the amount of ground water under the foundation by siphoning some of it off each time you use that tap?:confused: |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by MB-Realtor
(Post 5606396)
I wonder if the area you are in is prone to the land drying out. Many basement floors "float" so if the water lever rises they don't crack as quickly. Here in Winnipeg a new house would always have a sump pump to remove water. I wonder if your pipe is to add water in the event of the ground sinking due to drying out.
Best to get expert advice on this one, otherwise your basement floor might start cracking. Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Steve_P
(Post 5606399)
Are you aware of any problems with ground water it the area?
Is it to perhaps control the amount of ground water under the foundation by siphoning some of it off each time you use that tap?:confused: Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by mjanovitz
(Post 5606374)
I have attached some photographs, if it helps. The pipe in question goes straight from the tap fixture in to the concrete floor.
Sorry about the quality but without the flash they were too dark and with the flash washed out so took them without the flash and used software to lighten them. Thanks Mark |
Re: What's it for?
Did you get a home inspection? Call your inspector and ask him/her what it is. Ours said we could call any time in years to come with questions (untested but I assume he meant it!), so perhaps yours will be nice like that too?
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Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Biiiiink
(Post 5606646)
Did you get a home inspection? Call your inspector and ask him/her what it is. Ours said we could call any time in years to come with questions (untested but I assume he meant it!), so perhaps yours will be nice like that too?
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Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 5606665)
#13;)
:o |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Biiiiink
(Post 5606711)
Do you think I read threads :lol: ?
:o |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Biiiiink
(Post 5606711)
Do you think I read threads :lol: ?
:o |
Re: What's it for?
If it's not about hair straighteners or shopping, I'm not really reading it. Consider yourselves lucky I opened a pipes and basements thread at all :lol:
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Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by Biiiiink
(Post 5606809)
If it's not about hair straighteners or shopping, I'm not really reading it. Consider yourselves lucky I opened a pipes and basements thread at all :lol:
If I ever have a hair straightener issue I will pm you. Mark |
Re: What's it for?
I just noticed this thread, and I think a couple of the early answers might be on the right track. Is there a floor drain somewhere else in the basement? Has the laundry room always been upstairs, or was it moved there at some point. If there's no floor drain now, might there have been one at one time? Perhaps the tubing is to provide water to the trap of a floor drain, to prevent it from drying out.
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Re: What's it for?
Thanks everyone for the suggestions, I assumed it was a fairly common thing but obviously it's not! I'll ask some of the neighbours, we can't be the only house with this plumbing!
Mark |
Re: What's it for?
I looked at my utility sink last night, and my taps have a similar sort of fitting plug on the back of them...its just not open or hooked up to anything?
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Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 5610846)
I looked at my utility sink last night, and my taps have a similar sort of fitting plug on the back of them...its just not open or hooked up to anything?
Spoke with a guy at work tonight who lives in a new house in this area. He has them same thing on his basement sink, but he doesn't know what it's for either!! Maybe I'll have a poke around on the internet when i get chance. |
Re: What's it for?
Med hubby both think its probably something to do with the sump-pump.
Good hunting :thumbup::unsure::rofl: |
Re: What's it for?
Originally Posted by mjanovitz
(Post 5604101)
No, there is no humidifier there. It's must be for something though, I will find out eventually, not losing any sleep though in the mean time!
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