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el_richo Jun 24th 2010 8:34 am

Re: We are thinking about Canada any advice please?
 

Originally Posted by paolosmythe (Post 8655077)
having green spaces only within city limits seems to be a biasing of 'survey criteria' to suggest some kind of desirable trait.

point is, Calgary is a city situated within an ocean of brown.

vancouver (for example) by comparison doesn't need to have green space within its city limits, because it is situated within 'national park' like topography.

and so Calgary is welcome to its little squares of grass; i live in Beautiful British Columbia :D

I'm always wary of the BBC :eek:


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el_richo Jun 24th 2010 8:39 am

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Originally Posted by RN1 (Post 8654786)
Trouble with London is that most parts are rough now as far as crime goes & the housing that even decent wage earners can afford is not of the same standard that they would get for the same price (or cheaper) in most of Canada.

Also the public schools, even in the better areas, are often not much to sing about & the disrespect from many of kids you meet on the streets is dreadful. We scrimped to send ours to private school in London because our local school was so bad (we were not in a rough area by any stretch.) Here I don't feel the need to, the public system is just fine.

I also disagree with the comment earlier about green space. Here in Calgary there is way, way more green space than in any UK city or town. Only those really out in the sticks would get as much as Calgary has to offer.

Also the harsher winter climate does not mean you can't take advantage of those spaces. I think pretty much all communities have ice-rinks outdoors in winter, there are an abundance of hills for kids to toboggan down plus Bowness (& other similar ponds) to skate on (complete with pit fires, piped music & a quaint tea shop.) Not to mention there's COP for the beginner to learn to ski or snowboard before taking to the mountains to hone their skills. Those mountains also offer snowshoe trips or Husky pulled sledge adventures.

Summer brings camping, rafting, hiking, horse riding, lazy day picnics in the many lovely parks or simple BBQ's on the deck.

There is no way I would go back to my London life for all the tea in China. We are not better off here financially, at least not yet anyway as my hubbie's business is still in it's infancy :-) so I'm the main money earner but as far as quality of life goes we're miles & miles better off here.

This is my drive home from work, in London, the other evening. Looks nice to me.

As for the areas of green space in the UK. The Derbyshire and Yorkshire dales? The Moors? All of the beautiful large parks in and around London? The Surrey countryside? Cotswolds? The Lake District? Peak District? South Downs? Probably 20% of Wales? I could go on. Beautiful and very accessible.

And your comment about housing costs? Are you seriously comparing London affordability and most of Canada? Oh dear.

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RN1 Jun 24th 2010 9:02 am

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Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8655132)
This is my drive home from work, in London, the other evening. Looks nice to me.

As for the areas of green space in the UK. The Derbyshire and Yorkshire dales? The Moors? All of the beautiful large parks in and around London? The Surrey countryside? Cotswolds? The Lake District? Peak District? South Downs? Probably 20% of Wales? I could go on. Beautiful and very accessible.

And your comment about housing costs? Are you seriously comparing London affordability and most of Canada? Oh dear.

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My commute has green all the way too, often on both sides, plus the travel time is way,way less because the traffic is way,way less. I live exactly the same distance away from the city centre here as I did in London. Difference is I can drive(or use the C-train) to said city centre in 20 -30 mins here, whereas it took up to 1.5 hrs in London. Also, you may be able to drive past the parks but what if you wanted to park & actually use them? Good luck on that one!

Yes I am comparing housing costs because that's what the thread is essentially about. If someone is considering Canada it's a plus in favour of Canada. I did say that out in the sticks of the UK it would be different but made it clear I was comparing cities.

As far as I'm concerned you can keep your January 20% VAT hike ,the crappy pay for those who do my job in the UK, the rotten education many city kids have to deal with, the wet winters where you can't do half what I can & the damp & the traffic. Enjoy:rofl:

Alan2005 Jun 24th 2010 9:17 am

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Originally Posted by RN1 (Post 8655184)
As far as I'm concerned you can keep your January 20% VAT hike ,the crappy pay for those who do my job in the UK, the rotten education many city kids have to deal with, the wet winters where you can't do half what I can & the damp & the traffic. Enjoy:rofl:

I doubt he'll be bothered. He's on his way here to BC, and as paolosmythe said already, what we've got pisses all over anything calgary has to offer. In your face Albertans!

Cape Blue Jun 24th 2010 10:54 am

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Originally Posted by RN1 (Post 8655184)
My commute has green all the way too, often on both sides, plus the travel time is way,way less because the traffic is way,way less. I live exactly the same distance away from the city centre here as I did in London. Difference is I can drive(or use the C-train) to said city centre in 20 -30 mins here, whereas it took up to 1.5 hrs in London. Also, you may be able to drive past the parks but what if you wanted to park & actually use them? Good luck on that one!

Yes I am comparing housing costs because that's what the thread is essentially about. If someone is considering Canada it's a plus in favour of Canada. I did say that out in the sticks of the UK it would be different but made it clear I was comparing cities.

As far as I'm concerned you can keep your January 20% VAT hike ,the crappy pay for those who do my job in the UK, the rotten education many city kids have to deal with, the wet winters where you can't do half what I can & the damp & the traffic. Enjoy:rofl:

Perhaps comparing London with Toronto would be more of an apples to apples situation when it comes to size, property prices, traffic etc?

dbd33 Jun 24th 2010 11:12 am

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Originally Posted by RN1 (Post 8655184)
Also, you may be able to drive past the parks but what if you wanted to park & actually use them? Good luck on that one!

Why can't one use the parks? We were there last Christmas and walked in parks, fed ducks, rode horses, park type stuff. We weren't detained or even questioned.

Little D Jun 24th 2010 2:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 8654254)
Err, no it isn`t. I don`t know anyone in Calgary that only receives 2 weeks of vacation a year. In addition, all the jobs I have had here have expected me to produce approx 1/3 of the output expected of me in England resulting in my not needing the 5 weeks vacation I required in England.

In addition, if you don`t like the vacation offered, work for yourself, then you dictate the vacation.

I live in Calgary and only get two weeks vacation a year! Plus I don't get any holiday entitlement until I have worked there for a year! :blink:

el_richo Jun 24th 2010 9:47 pm

Re: We are thinking about Canada any advice please?
 

Originally Posted by RN1 (Post 8655184)
My commute has green all the way too, often on both sides, plus the travel time is way,way less because the traffic is way,way less. I live exactly the same distance away from the city centre here as I did in London. Difference is I can drive(or use the C-train) to said city centre in 20 -30 mins here, whereas it took up to 1.5 hrs in London. Also, you may be able to drive past the parks but what if you wanted to park & actually use them? Good luck on that one!

Hmmm, visiting parks, parking, and enjoying them is very simple. Beautiful in all weather, in fact.

As for the commute, i read the other day that in London they are considering installing public transit but i'm not sure when this will be available. At the moment, however, my commute in the car is around 30 minutes. Bliss!!

But, if you'd like to compare two cities where one has less than 10% population of the other......... Living and working in York has a considerably less commute time than living and working in Calgary and has access to vast open green space within the city and its surrounding areas. ;)


Originally Posted by RN1 (Post 8655184)
Yes I am comparing housing costs because that's what the thread is essentially about. If someone is considering Canada it's a plus in favour of Canada. I did say that out in the sticks of the UK it would be different but made it clear I was comparing cities.

Oh ok, well in that case, my mums house in Yorkshire is much cheaper than your house in Calgary, i would wager.

Seriously though, i like your sense of humour by comparing London and Calgary. Maybe you need to compare Toronto with London next time.


Originally Posted by RN1 (Post 8655184)
As far as I'm concerned you can keep your January 20% VAT hike ,the crappy pay for those who do my job in the UK, the rotten education many city kids have to deal with, the wet winters where you can't do half what I can & the damp & the traffic. Enjoy:rofl:

I'm fine with it, thanks. I'll be leaving it to enjoy the high taxes, rotten traffic, limited public transit, wet winters, and the nannying of those in charge in Vancouver.

Just out of curiosity, was the rotten education a direct result of your crappy UK earnings ability? Or did you receive a decent education?

Finally, i love the argument from people who state that those living in one area cannot do the same as those in another. :thumbup:


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Strawberry Jun 24th 2010 10:25 pm

Re: We are thinking about Canada any advice please?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8655132)
This is my drive home from work, in London, the other evening. Looks nice to me.

As for the areas of green space in the UK. The Derbyshire and Yorkshire dales? The Moors? All of the beautiful large parks in and around London? The Surrey countryside? Cotswolds? The Lake District? Peak District? South Downs? Probably 20% of Wales? I could go on. Beautiful and very accessible.

And your comment about housing costs? Are you seriously comparing London affordability and most of Canada? Oh dear.

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Beautiful, accessible yes, but not so accessible when the sun is shining and 3/4 of the population are trying to get to the same place... ..........;)

el_richo Jun 25th 2010 12:14 am

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Originally Posted by Strawberry (Post 8656413)
Beautiful, accessible yes, but not so accessible when the sun is shining and 3/4 of the population are trying to get to the same place... ..........;)

I've never had any problems. Plus all are accessible via public transport or the use of legs ;)


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Strawberry Jun 26th 2010 1:24 am

Re: We are thinking about Canada any advice please?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8656638)
I've never had any problems. Plus all are accessible via public transport or the use of legs ;)


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No it does appear you never do el-richo!!! ;)

el_richo Jun 26th 2010 3:29 am

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Originally Posted by Strawberry (Post 8658796)
No it does appear you never do el-richo!!! ;)

Well you never know. One day, one of these parks that are within walking or driving distance of my place may be so over crowded that access may be impossible. :D

I'll keep my fingers crossed.


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Strawberry Jun 27th 2010 10:55 pm

Re: We are thinking about Canada any advice please?
 

Originally Posted by el_richo (Post 8658964)
Well you never know. One day, one of these parks that are within walking or driving distance of my place may be so over crowded that access may be impossible. :D

I'll keep my fingers crossed.


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:p

Almost Canadian Jun 28th 2010 1:46 am

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Originally Posted by Little D (Post 8655717)
I live in Calgary and only get two weeks vacation a year! Plus I don't get any holiday entitlement until I have worked there for a year! :blink:

OK, I stand corrected. You need to find a new employer. As I said above, I have never heard of anyone in Calgary having to suffer such crap:p

MikeUK Jun 28th 2010 2:00 am

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Originally Posted by Strawberry (Post 8656413)
Beautiful, accessible yes, but not so accessible when the sun is shining and 3/4 of the population are trying to get to the same place... ..........;)

You do know, that's an excuse for not going to the provincial parks here too........... :unsure:


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