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Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by sharkus
(Post 7801964)
If you manage to corner one of them when they go through a red light, try and get a cop to appear and ask them what the law is, I'm pretty certain they have to obey the same rules of the road as motorists, ie; coming to a complete halt at stop signs and red lights.
ones are never spoken about, only the bad ones. But it really is something that grates with me. I've ridden in downtown toronto, and that isn't much fun, but I've respected the laws as I'm mainly a motorist, I stop at stop signs and red lights and whilst stopped I've had some prick on a bike pinging his bell at me to move, have to say I think a swift "It's a red light you prick" in a loud brit accent made him think about what he was doing. I've also sat there and had cyclists fly past me whilst I'm waiting. |
Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
For any cyclists who think they are above the laws, or for us motorists who want to point out to this "superior" types that they aren't better than us, feel free to quote/print/ram down their sanctimonious throats, the following:
Obviously only applies to Ontario, but I would assume other provinces would have the same laws: (taken from here: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/pub...ction5.0.shtml) Cycling and The Law A bicycle is a vehicle under the Ontario Highway Traffic Act (HTA). This means that, as a bicyclist, you have the same rights and responsibilities to obey all traffic laws as other road users. Cyclists charged for disobeying traffic laws will be subject to a minimum set fine and a Victim Surcharge fine of $20.00 for most offences (please note set fines below are subject to change). The following are key sections of the HTA concerning cyclists. HTA 144/136 - Traffic signals and signs stop for red lights and stop signs and comply with all other signs. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 153 - One-ways streets ride in the designated direction on one-way streets. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 147 - Slow moving traffic travel on right side any vehicle moving slower than the normal traffic speed should drive in the right-hand lane, or as close as practicable to the right edge of the road except when preparing to turn left or when passing another vehicle. For cyclists, you must ride far enough out from the curb to maintain a straight line, clear of sewer grates, debris, potholes, and parked car doors. You may occupy any part of a lane when your safety warrants it. Never compromise your safety for the convenience of a motorist behind you. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 142 - Signalling a turn before turning, look behind you and signal your turn. Cyclists can use their right arm to signal a right turn. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 140(1) 144(29) - Crosswalks yield or stop for pedestrians at crosswalks. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 140(6)/144(29) - No riding in crosswalks walk your bike when crossing at a crosswalk. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 166 - Streetcars stop two metres behind streetcar doors and wait until passengers have boarded or departed and reached the curb. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 175 (12) - Stopped school buses stop for stopped school buses when the upper alternating red lights are flashing and the stop arm is out. Set fine: $400.00 HTA 62(17) - Lights a bike must have a white front light and a red rear light or reflector if you ride between 1/2 hour before sunset and 1/2 hour after sunrise and white reflective tape on the front forks and red reflective tape on rear forks. Set fine: $20.00 HTA 75 (5) - Bell a bike must have a bell or horn in good working order. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 64(3) - Brakes a bike must have at least one brake system on the rear wheel. When you put on the brakes, you should be able to skid on dry, level pavement. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 218 - Identification Cyclists must stop and identify themselves when required to stop by police for breaking traffic laws. The police officer will ask you for your correct name and address. Set fine: $85.00 HTA Reg. 630 - Expressways Bicycles are prohibited on expressway / freeway highways such as the 400 series, the QEW, Ottawa Queensway and on roads where "No Bicycle" signs are posted. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 178(2) - Passengers Passengers are not allowed on a bicycle designed for one person. Set fine: $85.00 HTA 178(1) - Attaching to a vehicle You are not permitted to attach yourself to the outside of another vehicle or streetcar for the purpose of "hitching a ride." Set fine: $85.00 HTA 104 - Helmets Every cyclist under the age of eighteen must wear an approved bicycle helmet. Parents or guardians shall not knowingly permit cyclists under sixteen to ride without a helmet. Set fine: $60.00 HTA 179 - Dismounted bicyclist Cyclists are required to ride on the right-hand side of the road. If you are walking your bike on a highway where there are no sidewalks, you are considered a pedestrian and you should walk on the left-hand side of the road facing traffic. If it is not safe for you to cross the road to face traffic, you may walk your bike on the right-hand side of the road. Set fine: $35.00. The following are not considered bicycles and are subject to different rules for use: Limited-speed motorcycles Motor-assisted bicycles (mopeds) Low-speed vehicles Electric and motorized scooters (go-peds) Pocket bikes Segway Human/Personal Transporters |
Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by Brownstar
(Post 7801947)
I was slapped a cyclist with a copy of the Metro in London when he cycled through a red light on a pedestrian crossing..............huge arguement ensued and he point blank refused to believe that he was in the wrong for going through a red light.
I was always in favour of the nude cyclist protest in London though And yes I cycle to work here in Calgary 2 or 3 times per week. |
Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by dboy
(Post 7801984)
And overtaking on the right. I was turning right and a cyclist tried to go straight ahead on my right. Fortunately for him, I used to be a motorcyclist and always shoulder check. He then launched in a verbal assault - bad move - i was in an unmarked police car!
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Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Pedestrian rights is another good one. I've been crossing at Univeristy and Queen and had some pillock come flying through the intersection, nearly taking me out. Let's say a *very* rude word was utter, very, very loudly in the pillocks direction.
I have also seen a pedestrian "take out" one of these idiots. Was crossing, heard the bell (bear in mind that the ped had the right of way), put his arm out and clotheslined the cheeky sod, got him right in the chest. "Sorry chap, was pointing at something the wife might be interested in" was his comment to the cyclist who was somewhat breathless and taken aback. Chappy then just stepped round him and walked on :D |
Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by dboy
(Post 7801984)
He then launched in a verbal assault - bad move - i was in an unmarked police car!
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Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 7801852)
... and I don't even drive!
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Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
I wonder if they'll find a levy for the cyclists?
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Tra...317/story.html |
Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 7802074)
Damn...and I was all ready to come wading in with comments about how motorists don't go through redlights, don't exceed speed limits, don't park where they shouldn't etc etc.
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Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon
(Post 7801956)
I told the kids it was a nude one today - they didnt believe me!!
Another great spot is just round by UBC, a great beach, Wreck Beach, very historical, where all the old sailing ships were supposed to come aground. Well worth the visit. |
Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by The Aviator
(Post 7802221)
IAnother great spot is just round by UBC, a great beach, Wreck Beach, very historical, where all the old sailing ships were supposed to come aground. Well worth the visit.
Rumour has it that you can still catch a glimpse of an old raised mast on a good day. |
Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
The event today has been blown out of proportion in the media. Critical Mass has been happening every month in Vancouver for years now, but only this one has massive warnings to stay away. Perhaps due to the long weekend + Pride + Police games?
I witnessed the Critical Mass a month ago at the end of June. There was no violence. There was no pushing. It was all a fairly standard, low key affair - hundreds if not thousands of cyclists of all ages, all smiling and having a great time cycling through downtown Vancouver's streets. |
Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 7802213)
Maybe some militant pedestrians should get together and walk along all the cycle lanes slowing everything down to a crawl.
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Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by Lychee
(Post 7802360)
The event today has been blown out of proportion in the media. Critical Mass has been happening every month in Vancouver for years now, but only this one has massive warnings to stay away. Perhaps due to the long weekend + Pride + Police games?
I witnessed the Critical Mass a month ago at the end of June. There was no violence. There was no pushing. It was all a fairly standard, low key affair - hundreds if not thousands of cyclists of all ages, all smiling and having a great time cycling through downtown Vancouver's streets. |
Re: Warning: Sanctimonious cyclists ....
Originally Posted by Lychee
(Post 7802360)
The event today has been blown out of proportion in the media. Critical Mass has been happening every month in Vancouver for years now, but only this one has massive warnings to stay away. Perhaps due to the long weekend + Pride + Police games?
I witnessed the Critical Mass a month ago at the end of June. There was no violence. There was no pushing. It was all a fairly standard, low key affair - hundreds if not thousands of cyclists of all ages, all smiling and having a great time cycling through downtown Vancouver's streets. Edit to add: I'd cycle to work now - but I only live a few blocks away from the office and it's easier to walk. Cyclists regulary don't stop at cross-walks etc on my to work, so any sympathy I had for them has gone due to the way they treat me as a pedestrian. |
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