UK Pensions
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Desperation rarely needs to good decision making, and IMO pensions are invarably better left where they are. I don't think any country in the world has better protections for pension investors than the UK, espectially to protect people from themselves by prohibting premature withdrawal of savings that were supposed to maintain you during your retirement (and it's this stipulation that makes moving a UK pension investment into a QROPS outside the UK, tricky). Also having part of your pension investments with a different manager in a different country provides additional diversification, which also has very real value.
There are advantages and disadvantages but I find that in Canada you can invest at lower overall cost, which is a major advantage. You can also invest with multiple brokerages within the same country if you are concerned about that type of risk although I would question the wisdom. Holding money in multiple countries makes sense if you are concerned that one of them will collapse.
#32
That is a viewpoint I am very sympathetic to, however when a large majoprity of people don't make adequate provision for their retirement, and the "nanny state" (IOW everyone else, including those who did plan appropriately for their retirement) is going to have to bail them out in retirement with income support, it is arguably a reasonable restriction, to ensure that those who have saved something cannot draw it back out on a whim ..... Perhaps more importantly, under UK law, under most circumstances, the money is protected from creditors if you become bankrupt.
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That is a viewpoint I am very sympathetic to, however when a large majoprity of people don't make adequate provision for their retirement, and the "nanny state" (IOW everyone else, including those who did plan appropriately for their retirement) is going to have to bail them out in retirement with income support, it is arguably a reasonable restriction, to ensure that those who have saved something cannot draw it back out on a whim ..... Perhaps more importantly, under UK law, under most circumstances, the money is protected from creditors if you become bankrupt.
RRSPs are also protected from creditors (under most circumstances).
#34
The primary reason for restriction on moving UK pension funds overseas is to ensure that the owner can't access the funds prematurely, i.e. before they reach the age of 55.
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Thanks, will have to look into it. But is it legal for a non-UK resident to move Private Pensions into a Drawdown in the UK? But then once again if you are going to access this amount it could be complicated when you are 71 years old. Does it then have to be transferred into a RRIF via a QROP, or is it possible to keep it in the Drawdown?




