The truth about winter in Canada.
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
The puzzlement is as much as to why 'anywhere' in Canada is better than 'anywhere' in the UK. Given the emotional strains, logistical issues, financial pressures, losing immediate family and friend networks etc, it's a choice I find odd. Are Canadian career opportunities and prospects that much better to not care where you live?
#332
Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
There's another aspect to this discussion which I think needs airing: simple practicality.
The first international move we made (from Cambridge to near Los Angeles) was in 1977 (20-odd years pre internet), so online research tools weren't available. The move was made by someone (myself) earning 3600 pounds gross a year and my wife earning about half that amount. A recce was impossible for us in our financial circumstances.
Indeed the last work-related relocation I made was in 1993, admittedly post internet but not by much. Before google maps and web forums by a long way.
However by then I'd gained enough seniority to have the prospective employer offer to pay for recce trips for both of us, in addition to paying travel costs & living expenses for me to present a research lecture ahead of the offer.
These conditions don't apply to many.
I've been lucky.
The first international move we made (from Cambridge to near Los Angeles) was in 1977 (20-odd years pre internet), so online research tools weren't available. The move was made by someone (myself) earning 3600 pounds gross a year and my wife earning about half that amount. A recce was impossible for us in our financial circumstances.
Indeed the last work-related relocation I made was in 1993, admittedly post internet but not by much. Before google maps and web forums by a long way.
However by then I'd gained enough seniority to have the prospective employer offer to pay for recce trips for both of us, in addition to paying travel costs & living expenses for me to present a research lecture ahead of the offer.
These conditions don't apply to many.
I've been lucky.
Last edited by Novocastrian; Mar 26th 2014 at 10:00 pm.
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
There's another aspect to this discussion which I think needs airing: simple practicality.
The first international move we made (from Cambridge to near Los Angeles) was in 1977 (20-odd years pre internet), so online research tools weren't available. The move was made by someone (myself) earning 3600 pounds gross a year and my wife earning about half that amount. A recce was impossible for us in our financial circumstances.
Indeed the last work-related relocation I made was in 1993, admittedly post internet but not by much. Before google maps and web forums by a long way.
However by then I'd gained enough seniority to have the prospective employer offer to pay for recce trips for both of us, in addition to paying travel costs & living expenses for me to present a research lecture ahead of the offer.
These conditions don't apply to many.
I've been lucky.
The first international move we made (from Cambridge to near Los Angeles) was in 1977 (20-odd years pre internet), so online research tools weren't available. The move was made by someone (myself) earning 3600 pounds gross a year and my wife earning about half that amount. A recce was impossible for us in our financial circumstances.
Indeed the last work-related relocation I made was in 1993, admittedly post internet but not by much. Before google maps and web forums by a long way.
However by then I'd gained enough seniority to have the prospective employer offer to pay for recce trips for both of us, in addition to paying travel costs & living expenses for me to present a research lecture ahead of the offer.
These conditions don't apply to many.
I've been lucky.
Last edited by Siouxie; Mar 26th 2014 at 10:15 pm.
#334
Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
That takes me back to when my (then) husband and I moved to Hong Kong to take up a teaching post in 1979, the salary was around £3800 a year and there was no chance of doing a recce - we literally had 48 hours to decide if he wanted the job or not. Our shipping allowance consisted of the equivalent of 8 tea chests and we packed all our worldly belongings and off we went. Arriving in mid-summer, to temperatures in the high 30's and 97% humidity (and no central air) we did wonder what on earth we had let ourselves in for! We had been allocated housing (which we paid a percentage of salary for) on the far south coast of HK island but his job was by the Kowloon tunnel to the NT's (more than 2 hours by public transport, at that time) - we did manage to renegotiate the living arrangements, but it was a stressful time. Had a wonderful few years though...
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
The puzzlement is as much as to why 'anywhere' in Canada is better than 'anywhere' in the UK. Given the emotional strains, logistical issues, financial pressures, losing immediate family and friend networks etc, it's a choice I find odd. Are Canadian career opportunities and prospects that much better to not care where you live?
But then, I never moved countries to *get away* from the UK. I moved (UK-France-UK-Hong Kong-brief stint in Oz-HK-UK-France-Canada), in the spirit of adventure, new horizons, some interesting jobs along the way, and once as a trailing spouse.
Along the way, I ended up in Qc, with young children in tow, & rightly or wrongly, although I really had a hard time settling, I stayed because I didn't want to uproot them again.
Canada/Qc was never on my list of places to visit (see trailing spouse comment above ), but it did "tick the boxes" of my necessary criteria *at the time*. I did a lot of (pre-internet) research; 2 (winter) recce trips, & agreed to move.
I've survived, prospered for a while, struggled sometimes, divorced, & still heartily hate the winters!!
SB
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
I sometimes wonder about this too, reading some of the posts on this forum
But then, I never moved countries to *get away* from the UK. I moved (UK-France-UK-Hong Kong-brief stint in Oz-HK-UK-France-Canada), in the spirit of adventure, new horizons, some interesting jobs along the way, and once as a trailing spouse.
SB
But then, I never moved countries to *get away* from the UK. I moved (UK-France-UK-Hong Kong-brief stint in Oz-HK-UK-France-Canada), in the spirit of adventure, new horizons, some interesting jobs along the way, and once as a trailing spouse.
SB
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
The puzzlement is as much as to why 'anywhere' in Canada is better than 'anywhere' in the UK. Given the emotional strains, logistical issues, financial pressures, losing immediate family and friend networks etc, it's a choice I find odd. Are Canadian career opportunities and prospects that much better to not care where you live?
But then just travelling there with a brief idea of wanting to stay is a bit odd. Kinda depends on where you're coming from and what you'll be happy to leave behind.
Maybe even just giving yourself the change it so desperately needs.
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
"Anywhere" is an odd choice indeed. I can't imagine anyone that would say that would have done any actual research beyond some pictures and a holiday show on TV (do they still do those any more? ).
But then just travelling there with a brief idea of wanting to stay is a bit odd. Kinda depends on where you're coming from and what you'll be happy to leave behind.
Maybe even just giving yourself the change it so desperately needs.
But then just travelling there with a brief idea of wanting to stay is a bit odd. Kinda depends on where you're coming from and what you'll be happy to leave behind.
Maybe even just giving yourself the change it so desperately needs.
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
If Malta doesn't work out I might emigrate to the UK, Oz or NZ so that's not necessarily true either. Malta is just my first choice.
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
(My use of the term very probably dates me; I learnt it on Usenet...)
(I was wondering about the "... Living in a Bean Can" reference?)
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whoosh
(My use of the term very probably dates me; I learnt it on Usenet...)
(I was wondering about the "... Living in a Bean Can" reference?)
SB
(My use of the term very probably dates me; I learnt it on Usenet...)
(I was wondering about the "... Living in a Bean Can" reference?)
SB
If I know BristolUK he'll provide the youtube link presently.
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Re: The truth about winter in Canada.
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