Traction Control
#16
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Location: Ontario.
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Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by Voyager970
How did our Dads drive in snow, none of your fancy gizmoes when they are driving.
Good tyres will count for a lot! Have a car with almost smooth tyres and you WILL need traction-control.
#17
Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by Glaswegian
I'm convinced that ABS is an essential.
What about traction control?
As far as I can tell, it doesn't really make any difference ... if the driveway is icy, our big chunk of metal on wheels still has problems getting up the slope.
Maybe if you're a Canadian who hasn't ever been taught how to drive properly it'll make a difference
Thoughts??
What about traction control?
As far as I can tell, it doesn't really make any difference ... if the driveway is icy, our big chunk of metal on wheels still has problems getting up the slope.
Maybe if you're a Canadian who hasn't ever been taught how to drive properly it'll make a difference
Thoughts??
I'd just pulled in from the passing lane after telling the OH that it was too bloody slippy (could feel the AWD moving the power around) and anyone trying to pass was out of their mind.
Give me AWD any day of the week. Traction control, apart from helping to get away at the lights in an auto, just makes you feel safer than you really are.
ABS isnt much help in the snow either..actually takes longer to stop, but Id rather have it for the help it provides the rest of the time
#18
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Joined: Jan 2004
Location: Worcestershire
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Re: Traction Control
Well I have a strong belief in using proper winter tyres…when I first moved to Canada I bought myself a nice little Celica.. fast and nippy and handled like a dream…until the snow came.. then I had an unimaginable nightmare It had normal all season tyres.. but having lost traction at several junctions and pushed it out of numerous snow banks.. I came dam close to selling it.. It was when my father-in-law took a look at the tyres and stated quite clearly ..�with something as light as that you’re going to need snow tyres� I trolled of to Canadian Tire.. slowly I might add.. we had a full set of Michelin artic alpines fitted.. the best I could afford…
Well from that point on the only thing that got in my way was the depth of snow.. I could even get the feeling I had control on ice with these tyres fitted.. I could drive in some of the worst conditions without too much worry.. yes it still slid .. but the key point is it found traction a lot quicker and I also had control on ice slides.. something regular tyres didn’t provide…
So until you put on good winter tyres all the rest of the gadgets are really useless.
Well from that point on the only thing that got in my way was the depth of snow.. I could even get the feeling I had control on ice with these tyres fitted.. I could drive in some of the worst conditions without too much worry.. yes it still slid .. but the key point is it found traction a lot quicker and I also had control on ice slides.. something regular tyres didn’t provide…
So until you put on good winter tyres all the rest of the gadgets are really useless.
#19
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Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by MikeUK
So until you put on good winter tyres all the rest of the gadgets are really useless.
I took a look at the NHTSA crash tests ... the Kia Sedona has 5 stars pretty much all round, it's also $10K less than the Ford Freestar ... it doesn't have traction control, but isn't that what your right foot is actually for
#20
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Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by Glaswegian
I'm not convinced all weather are any good either ... our van has self-healing tires & alloys ... I guess to replace the damn things with decent winter tires (which we need for 8 months here) I would need to buy a spare set of steel rims too.
You don't need to buy new rims as the winter tyres have re-enforced rims to facilitate repeated re-mounting of the tyre..
However for ease of change over you can’t beat having them ready on spare rims just in case the bad weather turns up early, (or in the case of Alberta in the period normally known as summer)
Also the winter tyres might have re-enforced rims.. But I’ve no idea about the regular tyres?
I kept my winter tyres on the steel rims, and the summer tyres on the fancy alloys.. saved on kerb impacts and salt damage too….
#21
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Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by iaink
Im sure the Honda Oddessy that span off behind me
#22
Re: Traction Control
ABS certainly is an necessity in winter conditions. Although it will take you longer to come to a complete stop, it will prevent skidding and sliding......
The key to drive safely in winter consists basically of two things: good winter tyres and a careful driver......
The key to drive safely in winter consists basically of two things: good winter tyres and a careful driver......
#23
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Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by Toontje
The key to drive safely in winter consists basically of two things: good winter tyres and a careful driver......
There's a lot of cars out there with F1 quality slick tires ... who needs treads anyway?
#24
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Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by Glaswegian
I'm convinced that ABS is an essential.
What about traction control?
As far as I can tell, it doesn't really make any difference ... if the driveway is icy, our big chunk of metal on wheels still has problems getting up the slope.
Maybe if you're a Canadian who hasn't ever been taught how to drive properly it'll make a difference
Thoughts??
What about traction control?
As far as I can tell, it doesn't really make any difference ... if the driveway is icy, our big chunk of metal on wheels still has problems getting up the slope.
Maybe if you're a Canadian who hasn't ever been taught how to drive properly it'll make a difference
Thoughts??
It's all about personal preference.
#25
Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by George-Ang
Yet although they shredd the shite out of roads, in a thread i was watching and contrubuting to...... there was a response about the damage SNOW ploughs do... i await your comments. snow chains snow ploughs or guns, which does more damage ?
#26
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Location: St Catharines, Ontario
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Re: Traction Control
First: studded tires are legal everywhere except Ontario. They make the biggest difference on glare ice at the expense of dry traction (and noise).
It's worth getting a set of cheapo steel wheels and leaving the winter tires mounted on them (salt and potholes will wreck your fancy alloys, anyway). Also, this way you can mount smaller wheels with narrower tires, which are *better* in snow.
My car doesn't have traction control, and it would sometimes be useful because the front wheels tend to break loose in snow when the turbo hits. On a FWD car, once the wheels are spinning you have no steering.
It's worth getting a set of cheapo steel wheels and leaving the winter tires mounted on them (salt and potholes will wreck your fancy alloys, anyway). Also, this way you can mount smaller wheels with narrower tires, which are *better* in snow.
My car doesn't have traction control, and it would sometimes be useful because the front wheels tend to break loose in snow when the turbo hits. On a FWD car, once the wheels are spinning you have no steering.
#27
Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by pchapman
First: studded tires are legal everywhere except Ontario. They make the biggest difference on glare ice at the expense of dry traction (and noise).
It's worth getting a set of cheapo steel wheels and leaving the winter tires mounted on them (salt and potholes will wreck your fancy alloys, anyway). Also, this way you can mount smaller wheels with narrower tires, which are *better* in snow.
My car doesn't have traction control, and it would sometimes be useful because the front wheels tend to break loose in snow when the turbo hits. On a FWD car, once the wheels are spinning you have no steering.
It's worth getting a set of cheapo steel wheels and leaving the winter tires mounted on them (salt and potholes will wreck your fancy alloys, anyway). Also, this way you can mount smaller wheels with narrower tires, which are *better* in snow.
My car doesn't have traction control, and it would sometimes be useful because the front wheels tend to break loose in snow when the turbo hits. On a FWD car, once the wheels are spinning you have no steering.
#28
Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by Glaswegian
Both are illegal in most of Canada
Most of Canada???? don't you mean most cities.
#29
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Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by Grah
Most of Canada???? don't you mean most cities.
What happens out in the boonies doesn't affect me too much.
#30
Re: Traction Control
Originally Posted by Glaswegian
What happens out in the boonies doesn't affect me too much.