teaching in Nunavut
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Originally Posted by Glaswegian
You mean like the way asian people are prone to dairy allergies?
I go to a supermarket in a predominately asian bit of Calgary, because I know that they always have soy based milk alternatives in stock, unlike our local supermarket, which is in a predominately european neighbourhood.
Am I being racist because I use this information tomy personal advantage?
I go to a supermarket in a predominately asian bit of Calgary, because I know that they always have soy based milk alternatives in stock, unlike our local supermarket, which is in a predominately european neighbourhood.
Am I being racist because I use this information tomy personal advantage?
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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
In the broadest sense, sure you are, since you're prejudging the Asians based on their race. You're claiming that they tend to be prone to dairy allergies.
Yep. simply put race and genetics are inherently linked..
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Originally Posted by Virgosah
God, now I see why you call your self "Dingbat"... what a horrible attitude you have. Anyone living in Canada should not regard taking courses in Canadian history or geography as a waste of time. And why such negativity? Just because you find "ethnocentrism" and its connotations a problem, does not entitle you to be any sort of expert. Evidently, its you who has no idea at all...
I hope the OP goes to Nunavut - and across to other areas up there. Yes it will be an experience, one he will never forget. It will break his heart to see whole families sniffing glue out of ziplock bags and schools with a majority of pupils who are never going to be able to learn anything because of FAS/FAE/NAS.
I have walked into "homes" that have $$ pumped into them month by month and had to step over the rotting garbage, human feces, urine and booze bottles on my way to pick up the needles for a sharps box. I have to remember to take a police officer with me, because it can be very violent. People that addicted and that damaged have no boundaries at all.
It isn't a "horrible" attitude - it is realistic one, a very sad fact of life that will never be fixed in my lifetime. You cannot eliminate a whole way of life one minute and then try to re-install it later on like new software. What worked then for many of the bands and Nations cannot work now...society simply has not evolved in a way to accommodate the old ways. Many of my good friends here in Canada are either First Nations or Metis. They have the right to comment....and they are the ones who give me the opportunities to see this stuff first hand.
I consider myself very lucky to have travelled a lot of this world and to have experienced many different cultures. I would not have missed the chance to do this for anything. I have had the benefit of education and will keep learning until the day I die. Experiencing a new culture is one thing, living in one as the lone foreigner is another thing entirely. The OP is a grown adult with an education and a wish to travel - good for him. He will undoubtedly research and will have some idea as to what to expect when he gets up there. He nor any of us can learn the reality of living there from a "meaningless" course taught in a heated classroom in BC, London or anywhere else.
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Thanks for the firsthand info Dingbat. Will keep u posted on further developments
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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
Well said, it's all about PC. What people need to hear is the truth - even if it's not pretty - not political correctness.
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
Yeah, I agree. And the truth is that there are some ignorant and arrogant/ethnocentric comments being expressed in this and other threads.
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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
Well, at least Dingbat and I have both worked in Native communities and have seen the situation firsthand. Can you make the same claim? Obviously not.
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
Wow, I'm impressed. You worked in Native communities. Wow. How many years then? 4? 6? 10? Are those years counted like 'doggy years' compared to people that actually live as Native people 24/7 all their lives? Do you really expect people to believe that because you've spent a small fraction of your life getting paid to be in a Native community that your opinion is somehow "firsthand". Don't make me laugh! Really! Stop! You're too hilarious!
The only people I know who are legally native are hard working, respectable members of society.
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
Wow, I'm impressed. You worked in Native communities. Wow. How many years then? 4? 6? 10? Are those years counted like 'doggy years' compared to people that actually live as Native people 24/7 all their lives? Do you really expect people to believe that because you've spent a small fraction of your life getting paid to be in a Native community that your opinion is somehow "firsthand". Don't make me laugh! Really! Stop! You're too hilarious!
Once again, is alcoholism a rampant problem on Canada's Indian reserves or not? Maybe you don't know, you didn't know about "reverse racism" a few posts back, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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Originally Posted by Glaswegian
Simple question - have you lived in a native community 24/7?
The only people I know who are legally native are hard working, respectable members of society.
The only people I know who are legally native are hard working, respectable members of society.
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Originally Posted by Glaswegian
The only people I know who are legally native are hard working, respectable members of society.
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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
That's a little vague. Why are they such, simply because you don't agree with those views despite the facts? Is alcoholism rampant on Indian reserves or not?
You want something less vague? Well, here's what you wrote earlier:
"Who the hell is going to find happiness in Nunavut for long, the place even drives the eskimos (inuit/dene) to drink. Then again, they drink anywhere they go."
Proclaiming that "they drink anywhere they go" is not really saying the same thing as there being a lot of alcoholism on Indian reserves, is it?
Some of your comments are very ignorant and arrogant and your knowledge of what constitutes racism is incredibly myopic and lacks any sort of depth. I doubt I'll spend much more time discussing this topic with you.
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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
you didn't know about "reverse racism" a few posts back, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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Originally Posted by Glaswegian
Simple question - have you lived in a native community 24/7?
If I answer 'no' - I'm not as knowledgeable as the self-appointed "experts" and therefore my comments will be marginalized.
Take your pick. It's out of my hands.
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
Yes alcoholism is very prevalent on many reservations.
You want something less vague? Well, here's what you wrote earlier:
"Who the hell is going to find happiness in Nunavut for long, the place even drives the eskimos (inuit/dene) to drink. Then again, they drink anywhere they go." Proclaiming that "they drink anywhere they go" is not really saying the same thing as there being a lot of alcoholism on Indian reserves, is it?
"Who the hell is going to find happiness in Nunavut for long, the place even drives the eskimos (inuit/dene) to drink. Then again, they drink anywhere they go." Proclaiming that "they drink anywhere they go" is not really saying the same thing as there being a lot of alcoholism on Indian reserves, is it?
Fact: Their is a huge problem among the inuit/dene peoples of the north with alcoholism/substance abuse.
Fact: Canadian prisons across the country are filled with Amerindians.
Fact: Alcoholism/drug abuse is a factor in much of their criminal behaviour.
Fact: Alcoholism/drug abuse is rampant among Amerindians living off their reverses. I remember when the police in Edmonton's inner city wanted to ban the sale of Lysol because the Indians were spraying it on bread and eating the combination for the alcohol content. That's how bad it is.
Some of your comments are very ignorant and arrogant and your knowledge of what constitutes racism is incredibly myopic and lacks any sort of depth. I doubt I'll spend much more time discussing this topic with you.



