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Old Nov 11th 2004 | 4:50 am
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Originally Posted by dingbat
Oh grow up. Once you have lived this nonsense for any length of time you will forget how to even spell ethnocentric. Try reverse racism in place of cultural diversity (ha) and working within these communities day in and day our before you comment. You evidently have no idea at all.
Well said, it's all about PC. What people need to hear is the truth - even if it's not pretty - not political correctness.
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
Well said, it's all about PC. What people need to hear is the truth - even if it's not pretty - not political correctness.
That is certainly one of the strengths of this forum ... beware of anyone who says that Canada is all sweetness and light with no social problems ... it ain't so.
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 4:57 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
"I'm not racist but...."

Talk about taring a whole ethnic group with the same brush!
Now where did I say that I wasn't a racist? Tell us brainiac, considering that Blacks in the US make up 12.5% of the total US population, but make up 90% of the NBA, do you consider Blacks to be superior athletes? Let's see how many racists are out there now.
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:02 am
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Now where did I say that I wasn't a racist? Tell us brainiac, considering that Blacks in the US make up 12.5% of the total US population, but make up 90% of the NBA, do you consider Blacks to be superior athletes? Let's see how many racists are out there now.
racism n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Which category do you fall into?

I like running ... but I'll never run over distance like a top Kenyan runner, very few top athletes can.
 
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Originally Posted by Virgosah
And what makes you think I don't have the same experiences as your wife? I am well educated in Native studies, have worked on reserves and have befriended many Native people. Why do you feel my comments are less-accurate? I have obviously had very different experiences as she did working with people from B.C's reserves (especially Musqueam)
I'd didn't say your comment were any less accurate! but my experience would indicate that Dingbats and many other opinions on here are just as valid as yours... and in my personal experience better reflect the norm in canada

Yep I've met many native people and made friends and I’ve met just as many who finding me to be born and bred British have branded me a natural enemy..

The reality is many natives are disenfranchised from our western culture and resent us because of it.. and working with people with this attitude can be hard and build a further resentment of what’s left of their culture.. and this makes it still harder to integrate for both sides!

and this is perfectly valid issue and both sides need to be considered when we are talking about somebody thinking about teaching in the native areas...

Being "PC" means shìt when were talking jobs and immigration ..

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Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by hot wasabi peas
Hi nervous wreck,

If you think the cold and the isolation are your only concerns, I would recommend researching this idea a lot more. Of course if you're open to cultural diversity, new experiences and are without any of the ignorant and arrogant/ethnocentric opinions evidenced by some of the other comments here, it could be an experience of a lifetime. You have to have the right attitude, preparation and expectations.
Well, at least Dingbat and I have both worked in Native communities and have seen the situation firsthand. Can you make the same claim? Obviously not.

There's ivory tower politicial correctness, and then there is the truth on the ground. If you did your research, you'd understand that the two things are very different, and social workers like Dingbat are being squashed by these two opposing views like they're in the jaws of a vice.

Affirmative action has its downside if you're not a member of the right group, and I don't think the opinions of those who feel discriminated against by such policies should have their views depeciated by others who have never worked on a reserve.

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Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by Glaswegian
racism n.
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Which category do you fall into?

I like running ... but I'll never run over distance like a top Kenyan runner, very few top athletes can.
With respect to the law and the way Government treats the people, all should be considered equal and that one should only be judged by their behaviour (the content of their character) and not by their race. However, that doesn't mean that in fact, there are no behavioural differences between the races.

If you believe that Blacks have a racial predisposition for glaucoma, then, by definition, you are a racist. I believe this because it is a medical fact.

There is much evidence that Amerindians have a genetic predisposition for alcoholism. On some reserves in Canada the alcoholism rate is 50% whilst the other 50% of the Indians on the reserve refuse to take the breathalyzer test.

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Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:41 am
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Originally Posted by oceanMDX
If you believe that Blacks have a racial predisposition for glaucoma, then, by definition, you are a racist. I believe this because it is a medical fact.
You mean like the way asian people are prone to dairy allergies?

I go to a supermarket in a predominately asian bit of Calgary, because I know that they always have soy based milk alternatives in stock, unlike our local supermarket, which is in a predominately european neighbourhood.

Am I being racist because I use this information tomy personal advantage?
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:45 am
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Hi guys,
This thread seems to have burgeoned to unexpected lengths. Anyways, i sincerely believe if i do get to go up there, it does promise to be an experince of a lifetime.

As for qualifications and experience, I am doing a doctoral course in engineering and have about 3 years of teaching experience (albeit technical courses..nevertheless). I tried finding info about additional qualifications needed to teach in Nunavut (similar to the link for northwest territories..since Nunavut is a seperate territory)...i haven't been able to find any.

Anyways, am drafting my resume and cover letter to especially serve this specific purpose. Hope to find something at the end of this search.As far as the converstaion with that guy on the phone went, all he said was i needed a bachelors degree..was not specific at all as to any further qualifications specific to teaching. I am only concerned that i may be considered 'overqualified' . I hope it doesn't happen.

Any more suggestions are most welcome as always..keep them coming in!
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:48 am
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Originally Posted by nervous_wreck
I am only concerned that i may be considered 'overqualified' .
Immigrants are rarely overqualified ...
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by Glaswegian
You live in York in the UK ... give yourself a couple of years of butting heads with the Canadian system, then you might understand.

Of course I'm a bitter, twisted failure and I can't really talk ... I'm sure you'll do everything much better than I did
Just to clarify, Glaswegian. I am Canadian. I have only lived in the UK for a couple of years, and lived in Vancouver for 22 years before that. I think I probably understand the Canadian system better than most immigrants and I definitely understand!
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:51 am
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Originally Posted by nervous_wreck
Hi guys,
This thread seems to have burgeoned to unexpected lengths. Anyways, i sincerely believe if i do get to go up there, it does promise to be an experince of a lifetime.

As for qualifications and experience, I am doing a doctoral course in engineering and have about 3 years of teaching experience (albeit technical courses..nevertheless). I tried finding info about additional qualifications needed to teach in Nunavut (similar to the link for northwest territories..since Nunavut is a seperate territory)...i haven't been able to find any.

Anyways, am drafting my resume and cover letter to especially serve this specific purpose. Hope to find something at the end of this search.As far as the converstaion with that guy on the phone went, all he said was i needed a bachelors degree..was not specific at all as to any further qualifications specific to teaching. I am only concerned that i may be considered 'overqualified' . I hope it doesn't happen.

Any more suggestions are most welcome as always..keep them coming in!

Well said. I wish you all the luck in the world and hope that it is a rewarding experience for you
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:53 am
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Originally Posted by Virgosah
Inderstand the Canadian system better than most immigrants and I definitely understand!
You have the advantage over me then

Can you appreciate how trying to figure your way round the system could lead an immigrant to feeling dejected and negative?
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:56 am
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Originally Posted by nervous_wreck
Hi guys,
I tried finding info about additional qualifications needed to teach in Nunavut (similar to the link for northwest territories..since Nunavut is a seperate territory)...i haven't been able to find any.
I don’t know how hard you looked but this was an easy find?

http://www.gov.nu.ca/education/eng/t...s/Advisory.pdf

This is a good starting point http://www.gov.nu.ca/education/eng/index.htm
 
Old Nov 11th 2004 | 5:58 am
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Thanks Mike!
 


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