tax evasion - would my mother be refused entry?
#31
Re: tax evasion - would my mother be refused entry?
When we first visited Canada we were sent to secondary. I think it was because we were staying at my wife's cousin's residence and not a hotel. When we. Visited a second time, with a hotel booking we were let straight in, no questions asked.
I cannot remember being asked if I was a criminal in the UK or if I had a criminal record, more like will I be looking for work and using our return tickets.
I cannot remember being asked if I was a criminal in the UK or if I had a criminal record, more like will I be looking for work and using our return tickets.
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Re: tax evasion - would my mother be refused entry?
As in the words of one poster more harrassment of innocent people by CBSA.
I wonder how many of these told lies or did not disclose the information to CBSA when entering Canada.
This is just one Province and without disrespect to Nova Scotia its hardly the busiest Province when processing travellers
Halifax, Nova Scotia, March 21, 2012 – The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) reports that in 2011, more than 6,000 aircraft, and 2,000 boats — carrying more than 870,000 travellers, and 35,000 commercial shipments — entered Canada via Nova Scotia's air or marine ports of entry.
Canada's border services officers examine all persons and goods seeking entry to Canada at ports of entry, and some may be referred for more in-depth examinations, known as secondary examinations. These examinations may be for customs, immigration or on behalf of other government departments such as the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.
Secondary examinations of individual travellers resulted in a total of 128 seizure actions. Of these, 27 were drug-related, and one was weapons-related. A large number of seizures were related to alcohol, tobacco, currency, and prohibited plant or animal products, and to the undervaluing of goods such as clothing and household items.
There were also 15 child pornography seizures among travellers, including one in October, when a foreign national arriving at the Halifax Stanfield International Airport was arrested after CBSA officers found suspected child pornography on his laptop. A forensic examination conducted by the CBSA found that he was in possession of over 3,000 images and literature depicting child pornography. A similar seizure happened in December at the airport, when another foreign national was arrested. A forensic examination assisted by the Halifax Regional Police Integrated Internet Child Exploitation (IICE) Unit found over 5,000 child pornography images and literature.
CBSA officers in Nova Scotia removed 60 persons from Canada, and prevented 440 inadmissible persons from entering Canada.
So these 440 inadmissible persons who were prevented entry into Canada how do you think we found out they were inadmissible?
By asking questions and doing checks. But dont let these facts get in the way eh imartin999.
Im sure he wont reply nor will novocastrian acknowledge that there needs to be questions asked as nobody lies to CBSA officers.
Im sure he will reply but it will be a sort of reply that overlooks the way CBSA officers do their work.
Statistics for calendar year 1 Apr 2008 to 31 March 2009 but dont take my word for it see link at the bottom
Our Missing Children Program (OMC)
Missing children across Canada recovered by border service officers 48
Immigration Functions at the Ports of Entry
Persons removed from Canada 13,254
Work Permits Issued 196,190
Student Permits Issued 82,122
Visitor Records Issued 57,391
Permanent Residents Landed 210,625
Temporary Resident Permits Issued 8,585
Denied Entry 31,050
Refugee Claimants 19,695
http://canadaonline.about.com/gi/o.h...ution-eng.html
I wonder how many of these told lies or did not disclose the information to CBSA when entering Canada.
This is just one Province and without disrespect to Nova Scotia its hardly the busiest Province when processing travellers
Halifax, Nova Scotia, March 21, 2012 – The Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) reports that in 2011, more than 6,000 aircraft, and 2,000 boats — carrying more than 870,000 travellers, and 35,000 commercial shipments — entered Canada via Nova Scotia's air or marine ports of entry.
Canada's border services officers examine all persons and goods seeking entry to Canada at ports of entry, and some may be referred for more in-depth examinations, known as secondary examinations. These examinations may be for customs, immigration or on behalf of other government departments such as the Canadian Food Inspection Agency.
Secondary examinations of individual travellers resulted in a total of 128 seizure actions. Of these, 27 were drug-related, and one was weapons-related. A large number of seizures were related to alcohol, tobacco, currency, and prohibited plant or animal products, and to the undervaluing of goods such as clothing and household items.
There were also 15 child pornography seizures among travellers, including one in October, when a foreign national arriving at the Halifax Stanfield International Airport was arrested after CBSA officers found suspected child pornography on his laptop. A forensic examination conducted by the CBSA found that he was in possession of over 3,000 images and literature depicting child pornography. A similar seizure happened in December at the airport, when another foreign national was arrested. A forensic examination assisted by the Halifax Regional Police Integrated Internet Child Exploitation (IICE) Unit found over 5,000 child pornography images and literature.
CBSA officers in Nova Scotia removed 60 persons from Canada, and prevented 440 inadmissible persons from entering Canada.
So these 440 inadmissible persons who were prevented entry into Canada how do you think we found out they were inadmissible?
By asking questions and doing checks. But dont let these facts get in the way eh imartin999.
Im sure he wont reply nor will novocastrian acknowledge that there needs to be questions asked as nobody lies to CBSA officers.
Im sure he will reply but it will be a sort of reply that overlooks the way CBSA officers do their work.
Statistics for calendar year 1 Apr 2008 to 31 March 2009 but dont take my word for it see link at the bottom
Our Missing Children Program (OMC)
Missing children across Canada recovered by border service officers 48
Immigration Functions at the Ports of Entry
Persons removed from Canada 13,254
Work Permits Issued 196,190
Student Permits Issued 82,122
Visitor Records Issued 57,391
Permanent Residents Landed 210,625
Temporary Resident Permits Issued 8,585
Denied Entry 31,050
Refugee Claimants 19,695
http://canadaonline.about.com/gi/o.h...ution-eng.html
Last edited by Former Lancastrian; Apr 16th 2012 at 1:38 pm. Reason: More info for the less educated on CBSA.
#33
Re: tax evasion - would my mother be refused entry?
Thanks for all your help, mum is going to contact the embassy for further advise, she may well be stopped for further questioning as shes been ill with cancer and due to meds and surgery looks and sounds older and its clear shes suffered an illness of this degree.
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Oh do change the record its becoming quite old and boring. Let me guess you probably had a bottle of vodka seized from you about 10 yrs ago and you havent forgotten about it and therefore have a dislike of all CBSA staff.
I tell you what how about you send the OP the $200 to pay for the TRP just in case she is asked as you are not !00% certain. Sound like a deal or just all mouth again and who will not even answer questions directly put to him when making the usual put down remarks about CBSA employees.
Of course if one of your family members was hurt by a foreign national whom you later found out was inadmissible but let in by CBSA then you would be slagging us off for not doing our job so I guess we will always be in a no win situation as far as you are concerned.
Obviously your job is so important you feel the need to be critical of others.
Piss taking I can take or ribbing but with you its the same old crap.
But thank you for paying my wages and contributing to my pension even if you consider my job to be less than ideal its you whos paying for it
Oh I bet you, Novo and dbd33 can have a laugh over a pint on your next meet up and discuss how you love to have a go at me.
Sad men but Im still here.
I tell you what how about you send the OP the $200 to pay for the TRP just in case she is asked as you are not !00% certain. Sound like a deal or just all mouth again and who will not even answer questions directly put to him when making the usual put down remarks about CBSA employees.
Of course if one of your family members was hurt by a foreign national whom you later found out was inadmissible but let in by CBSA then you would be slagging us off for not doing our job so I guess we will always be in a no win situation as far as you are concerned.
Obviously your job is so important you feel the need to be critical of others.
Piss taking I can take or ribbing but with you its the same old crap.
But thank you for paying my wages and contributing to my pension even if you consider my job to be less than ideal its you whos paying for it
Oh I bet you, Novo and dbd33 can have a laugh over a pint on your next meet up and discuss how you love to have a go at me.
Sad men but Im still here.
As for personal abuse, re-read your own post above. Are you this angry at work?
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Re: tax evasion - would my mother be refused entry?
Actually I think you will find my comments refer to CBSA as an agency and the way it operates. I recall comparing the way a citizen of the UK can generally enter their own country with what is involved in Canada.
As for personal abuse, re-read your own post above. Are you this angry at work?
As for personal abuse, re-read your own post above. Are you this angry at work?
If you think Im angry is it because you keep spouting the same well the UK doesnt do it this way? Its Canada not the UK you have the choice to move back I take it?
#36
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I can't read the original posts but I'm sure now people can appreciate how tired it becomes when they perceive a poster regurgitating the same old crap at every opportunity.
#37
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I find it quite worrying that you seem to make no distinction between citizens breaking laws and those who have what you consider to be an 'attitude'. I merely thought I was questioning what I think are some unnecessary practices. Good to know I will suffer your wrath for this if I ever meet you at a border....
#38
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Why does this mean I have to move back? Can one not be critical or questioning of the way things are done?
Seriously, I do worry about your anger level. Hope you are not working today.
#39
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Never mind.
As to your suggestion that some of us would conspire over beer to plan attacks on you, get a life. We've better things to discuss.
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All I have done is point out that there are different ways to enforce border entry - particularly with regard to citizens. I use the UK as an example as its the other system I know most. I like the fact that I don't have to fill out a card nor be questioned about my personal life when I enter.
Why does this mean I have to move back? Can one not be critical or questioning of the way things are done?
Seriously, I do worry about your anger level. Hope you are not working today.
Why does this mean I have to move back? Can one not be critical or questioning of the way things are done?
Seriously, I do worry about your anger level. Hope you are not working today.
Answer me this question
Do Canadian citizens returning to Canada break the laws and regulations be it undeclared goods, undervaluing goods, bringing in items that are prohibited, controlled or restricted (food, plants, animals, drugs, weapons etc).
And if they do how do you propose that we find these goods if we dont ask them questions or have them fill in a declaration card or interview them
Are you seriously suggesting that the UKBA dont come across UK citizens doing the same things. How do all these items get into the UK then?
Other posters feel free to join in answering this question.
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If you want a sensible discussion re screening of Canadian citizens entering Canada then I will do so.
Answer me this question
Do Canadian citizens returning to Canada break the laws and regulations be it undeclared goods, undervaluing goods, bringing in items that are prohibited, controlled or restricted (food, plants, animals, drugs, weapons etc).
And if they do how do you propose that we find these goods if we dont ask them questions or have them fill in a declaration card or interview them
Are you seriously suggesting that the UKBA dont come across UK citizens doing the same things. How do all these items get into the UK then?
Other posters feel free to join in answering this question.
Answer me this question
Do Canadian citizens returning to Canada break the laws and regulations be it undeclared goods, undervaluing goods, bringing in items that are prohibited, controlled or restricted (food, plants, animals, drugs, weapons etc).
And if they do how do you propose that we find these goods if we dont ask them questions or have them fill in a declaration card or interview them
Are you seriously suggesting that the UKBA dont come across UK citizens doing the same things. How do all these items get into the UK then?
Other posters feel free to join in answering this question.
#42
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All I have done is point out that there are different ways to enforce border entry - particularly with regard to citizens. I use the UK as an example as its the other system I know most. I like the fact that I don't have to fill out a card nor be questioned about my personal life when I enter.
Why does this mean I have to move back? Can one not be critical or questioning of the way things are done?
Seriously, I do worry about your anger level. Hope you are not working today.
Why does this mean I have to move back? Can one not be critical or questioning of the way things are done?
Seriously, I do worry about your anger level. Hope you are not working today.
Going back through to go to a hotel for the night, the guard proclaimed "My God! What have you been doing during this time?!?" (waiting for news on availability is what I was doing) before fetching another officer to grill me a bit. The other officer studied me closely (seemed to be checking my body language and facial expressions), asked a few questions and was fine however.
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Re: tax evasion - would my mother be refused entry?
I'm really not bothered about a discussion. The UK seems to manage it with no cards or questions. How they do this I don't know. Perhaps intelligence and information about potential serious offences whilst not worrying about normal travellers bringing back a few quid more of souvenirs?
Would that not be considered a serious threat. That threat is too big of a risk for CFIA to tell us CBSA ah just let it in. Guess who is carrying the stuff back to Canada you guessed it a traveller and chances are they wont tell us that so we ask questions about where they have been etc to determine if they could be a risk and require further examination.
Does that make sense?
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I have never suggested that. I asked a very specific question concerning a traveller fitting the profile of Grandma Howefamily. You chose not to reply to the question but continue to reply with irrelevant statistics on child pornographers and the like.
Never mind.
As to your suggestion that some of us would conspire over beer to plan attacks on you, get a life. We've better things to discuss.
Never mind.
As to your suggestion that some of us would conspire over beer to plan attacks on you, get a life. We've better things to discuss.
Is she inadmissible and why?
How do I know she is inadmissible its because it was disclosed to me.
How do I find out if others are inadmissible if not disclosed then I ask questions and run checks to find out. If nothing found then they are admitted. Is that really a hassle/inconvenience or carrying out a procedure to establish if a person is admissible or not?
If the police pull you over for whatever reason dont they ask you to produce your licence and registration? Why do they do that?
Why do the police carry out roadside checks on drivers which have been deemed legal say around Christmas time or long weekends?
If a traveller (foreign national) has several convictions for assault do you really think they are going to disclose this fact to me? and if not would you want this person admitted to Canada? and if not why?