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-   -   Suggest Airlines (https://britishexpats.com/forum/canada-56/suggest-airlines-830950/)

Atlantic Xpat Apr 10th 2014 6:02 am
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Originally Posted by SchnookoLoly (Post 11213180)
That was the conclusion I came to as well - and as orly said, even though their seats are a bit smaller than some of the others (at least until Air Canada launches their super-tight new 777s) it's not awful for a 6-7hr flight. Have a drink, take some antihistamine to knock you out, and just sleep through it... or order a few drinks and watch cheesy airplane movies. Either serves the purpose. :P .
It's worth travelers being aware of two developments with AC that reduces the experience quite considerably IMHO. First is the deployment of 5 777 HD (High Density) aircraft with 458 seats and a cramped 31" pitch and 17" width in economy. These a/c are deployed on Montreal-Paris & Vancouver-HK primarily but do crop up elsewhere. They do have premium economy which is a bit better at a price.

The second is Rouge, AC's "leisure, low cost carrier" which operates 767's with similar seat pitches and no IFE aside from streaming to your ipad. Transatlantic, Rouge operates the season routes to Edinburgh, Manchester, Dublin etc to Toronto / Montreal. In North America, Rouge was supposed to be reserved for vacation routes but seems to being progressively rolled out on many Canada/US routes. Rouge offeres crappier service at the same price. In other words it's modeled on Easyjet but crucially without the low fares!

That being said, I don't mind "mainline" Air Canada & generally have positive experiences. And I fly once a month on average. Of course living in Canada, nowhere near a US border & airport, one has little alternative. ;)

Former Lancastrian Apr 10th 2014 6:06 am
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 11213418)
It's worth travelers being aware of two developments with AC that reduces the experience quite considerably IMHO. First is the deployment of 5 777 HD (High Density) aircraft with 458 seats and a cramped 31" pitch and 17" width in economy. These a/c are deployed on Montreal-Paris & Vancouver-HK primarily but do crop up elsewhere. They do have premium economy which is a bit better at a price.

The second is Rouge, AC's "leisure, low cost carrier" which operates 767's with similar seat pitches and no IFE aside from streaming to your ipad. Transatlantic, Rouge operates the season routes to Edinburgh, Manchester, Dublin etc to Toronto / Montreal. In North America, Rouge was supposed to be reserved for vacation routes but seems to being progressively rolled out on many Canada/US routes. Rouge offeres crappier service at the same price. In other words it's modeled on Easyjet but crucially without the low fares!

That being said, I don't mind "mainline" Air Canada & generally have positive experiences. And I fly once a month on average. Of course living in Canada, nowhere near a US border & airport, one has little alternative. ;)
Will you be trying the Westjet St Johns to Dublin?

SchnookoLoly Apr 10th 2014 6:11 am
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 11213418)
It's worth travelers being aware of two developments with AC that reduces the experience quite considerably IMHO. First is the deployment of 5 777 HD (High Density) aircraft with 458 seats and a cramped 31" pitch and 17" width in economy. These a/c are deployed on Montreal-Paris & Vancouver-HK primarily but do crop up elsewhere. They do have premium economy which is a bit better at a price.

The second is Rouge, AC's "leisure, low cost carrier" which operates 767's with similar seat pitches and no IFE aside from streaming to your ipad. Transatlantic, Rouge operates the season routes to Edinburgh, Manchester, Dublin etc to Toronto / Montreal. In North America, Rouge was supposed to be reserved for vacation routes but seems to being progressively rolled out on many Canada/US routes. Rouge offeres crappier service at the same price. In other words it's modeled on Easyjet but crucially without the low fares!

That being said, I don't mind "mainline" Air Canada & generally have positive experiences. And I fly once a month on average. Of course living in Canada, nowhere near a US border & airport, one has little alternative. ;)
Yeah, those HD planes were the ones I was referring to - I couldn't remember the name. (Honestly, High Density? Are you f*ing stupid, Air Canada? Or maybe they think HD will get some knobs going "oooooo maybe it means HD entertainment!" HA HA Joke's on you, sucker.)

And I agree, I don't mind mainline Air Canada. Before I moved to London I was living in Toronto but got put on a project in Ottawa, so for 7 months solid it was fly to Ottawa Monday morning, fly back Friday evening. Air Canada was just fine (particularly once I made sweet, sweet Air Canada Elite and Star Alliance Gold...).

Atlantic Xpat Apr 10th 2014 6:12 am
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11213426)
Will you be trying the Westjet St Johns to Dublin?
Had I pulled the trigger on flights @ $199 each way when they were announced last year, yes. However costs now are not that much more competitive than AC considering I would then have to get from Dublin to UK. Like you, I appreciate the benefits of a short and direct flight even if it costs a little more.

jamesmc Apr 10th 2014 7:49 am
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On the icelandair flight (in steerage) toronto-iceland-uk you have to pay extra to get fed,sandwiches etc.

dr_naz Apr 10th 2014 8:02 am
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Thanks everybody ...this was really informative :goodpost:

dr_naz Apr 10th 2014 8:55 am
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Originally Posted by burks (Post 11213285)
I have always had my own screen flying with Air Transat.. always flown economy.

Air Transat has always been good for me. Sitting in the same seat for 8-9 hours is always going to be uncomfortable after a while so I don't see the point in paying extra for a little bit more comfort.

Having said that.. I have found that AC can be cheaper than AT on occasion. BA is usually almost guaranteed to be more expensive every time.

Anyone know when WestJet start their Dublin route?
What is the reaction of the aircraft in air pockets meaning is it shaky or table because my daughter really got a phobia of it and gets ear ache too...had an experience when going to dubai

Photoplex Apr 10th 2014 9:10 am
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Originally Posted by dr_naz (Post 11213673)
What is the reaction of the aircraft in air pockets meaning is it shaky or table because my daughter really got a phobia of it and gets ear ache too...had an experience when going to dubai
You mean turbulence? Not sure how any one plane would be different to the next...

dr_naz Apr 10th 2014 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by Photoplex (Post 11213694)
You mean turbulence? Not sure how any one plane would be different to the next...
yes turbulence because air transit if Air bus so thought might be shaky

Photoplex Apr 10th 2014 9:59 am
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Originally Posted by dr_naz (Post 11213731)
yes turbulence because air transit if Air bus so thought might be shaky
Airbus is the brand of plane - Boeing, Airbus, Bombardier etc. Their reaction to turbulence will be the same.

dr_naz Apr 10th 2014 5:21 pm
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
:fingerscrossed:
Originally Posted by Photoplex (Post 11213761)
Airbus is the brand of plane - Boeing, Airbus, Bombardier etc. Their reaction to turbulence will be the same.
Ok guess I shall go for Air Transat to save extra money

burks Apr 10th 2014 5:38 pm
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Originally Posted by Photoplex (Post 11213761)
Airbus is the brand of plane - Boeing, Airbus, Bombardier etc. Their reaction to turbulence will be the same.
Maybe they thought it was a London double decker with wings :p

Flossie and Jim Apr 11th 2014 3:39 am
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Don't Virgin fly direct from Heathrow to Toronto too?

(Am trying Virgin for the first time this summer - guess I am a Virgin Virgin? I just booked a great deal with them in Premium Economy from Vancouver > Heathrow this summer for about the same price as an Air Canada regular Economy return! Get two free checked bags each, but the main reason for booking for me is the extra legroom and wider seat, particularly for the overnight flight. Have to do a short hop connector flight from YYC - YVR but its not a big problem hopefully!)

SchnookoLoly Apr 11th 2014 3:44 am
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Nope. You can book a flight with a connection in the US and fly from your Canadian destination to a US destination on a Delta Airlines codeshare... so my search had my flying Delta from Toronto to either Detroit or New York, and then a Virgin flight from there.

http://www.virgin-atlantic.com/gb/en...route-map.html

burks Apr 11th 2014 3:48 am
Re: Suggest Airlines
 
Originally Posted by Flossie and Jim (Post 11214820)
Don't Virgin fly direct from Heathrow to Toronto too?

(Am trying Virgin for the first time this summer - guess I am a Virgin Virgin? I just booked a great deal with them in Premium Economy from Vancouver > Heathrow this summer for about the same price as an Air Canada regular Economy return! Get two free checked bags each, but the main reason for booking for me is the extra legroom and wider seat, particularly for the overnight flight. Have to do a short hop connector flight from YYC - YVR but its not a big problem hopefully!)
YVR is Virgin's only Canadian destination I think, and that's only a seasonal route.


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