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Re: Stupid question!
Haven't we been here before..... ;) My understanding is that it may be luck of the draw in how the visa officer scores your points, I counted 12 years for primary and secondary + 2 for college, this may only get counted as 11 years though (wrongly in my view). I did put a written explanation to explain the 12 years.
It would be nice to have a definitive answer! Good luck |
Re: Stupid question!
CIC use a document known as International Education Guide
FOR THE ASSESSMENT OF EDUCATION FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND produced by an organisation known as IQAS in order to base their judgements on questions like this here's what the report says on schooling in UK School Education School education in the United Kingdom is divided into primary education and secondary education. In England, Scotland and Wales, education is compulsory from age 5 to age 16. In Northern Ireland, education is compulsory from age 4 to age 16. school education in england, wales and northern ireland The education systems of England, Wales and Northern Ireland share a similar structure. Maintained or state (publicly funded) schools offer: • optional pre-primary/preschool education for children between the ages of 3 and 5 • compulsory primary education from age 5 to age 11 (or ages 4 to 11 in Northern Ireland) • compulsory secondary education from ages 11 to 16 • optional secondary or further education from ages 16 to 18 Independent (private) schools generally follow a similar structure, but may use the terms “pre-preparatory†to refer to pre-primary/preschool education and “preparatory†to refer to primary education. It is useful to note that the British commonly use the term “public school†to refer to private schools. The compulsory part of education is divided into four key stages (see Table 2). Key Stage 1 covers the first two years of primary school, when students are normally aged 5 to 7. Key Stage 2, the second and last stage of primary schooling, is for children aged 7 to 11. Note: There is one additional year of primary education in Northern Ireland where children start school at the age of 4 bringing the number of years of compulsory education to 12. here's a link to the report http://employment.alberta.ca/documen...uk_profile.pdf |
Re: Stupid question!
Originally Posted by john5655
(Post 8352669)
so, the answer is, imho, 11 years except in NI here's a link to the report http://employment.alberta.ca/documen...uk_profile.pdf |
Re: Stupid question!
Originally Posted by el_richo
(Post 8353915)
I don't think it is. The 5 to 16 is inclusive which gives 12 years.
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Re: Stupid question!
Originally Posted by christmasoompa
(Post 8354703)
Except that according to PMM, reception year often doesn't get counted by CIC (no idea why - perhaps because it's often not a complete year?), so that would be 11 years.
Can't find anything of substance other than this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_England So by PMM's info, if "reception" is not classed as a full year, the final year should also be the same as don't they finish before the full year? And by that sense, the "11 year" is under selling for most English applicants because even if "reception" year is not a complete year, it does still consist of a part of a year. Weird. :blink: |
Re: Stupid question!
Originally Posted by DandNHill
(Post 8351969)
Reception to year 6: 7 years
Year 7 to year 11: 5 years Total 12 years :p Tim |
Re: Stupid question!
like I said, if you read the IQAS report you'll be reading a definitive report used by CIC
http://employment.alberta.ca/documen...uk_profile.pdf the report says that compulsory education in UK starts at 5, ends at 16, it consists of six years primary and five years secondary, that makes 11 years (counting academic years) anything before primary year one is not counted if you have undergone an education that does not fit that model I guess you'll have to stump up with proof if the year count is important |
Re: Stupid question!
Originally Posted by john5655
(Post 8356253)
like I said, if you read the IQAS report you'll be reading a definitive report used by CIC
http://employment.alberta.ca/documen...uk_profile.pdf the report says that compulsory education in UK starts at 5, ends at 16, it consists of six years primary and five years secondary, that makes 11 years (counting academic years) anything before primary year one is not counted if you have undergone an education that does not fit that model I guess you'll have to stump up with proof if the year count is important I personally put 12 years of formal, full time, education because that is what i did......rounded up of course since the total comes to around 11 years and 7 months in total ish. |
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no idea why that link did not work here it is again http://employment.alberta.ca/documen...uk_profile.pdf or as an attachment |
Re: Stupid question!
Originally Posted by tim010
(Post 8355082)
When kids finish school after GCSE's though they complete Year 11 so you may want to check whether it's 12 years or not.
Tim |
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The form states (IMM0008): Give the total number of years of school you successfully completed for each of the following levels of education'
It doesn't mention anything about compulsory years, therefore if you attended from 4-16 you have completed 12 years and should be awarded that (in my view). That said I guess the onus is on us to bring to their attention that we did complete the 12 years and not 11. Interesting document, great find!! |
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