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#211
Maybe if they had done something along those lines in the first place it wouldn't have escalated that far? Who knows hindsight is a wonderful thing and all that. I just wish all the family the best and hope the baby is well and loved too.
#212
I agree and will step out of this thread now - as A/C says there seems to be more than meets the eye.
#213
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Again thank you for your comments. I have to say though, with reference to the comments, I guess it's not hard to see why our young people are in trouble when a parent can be slated for standing up and fighting for the life of their son or daughter. And that is what effectively we are doing.
Our daughter's behavior has escalated and escalated and as previously stated, we do not intend to be dragged out on the news after our daughter is found dead in some basement and apologized to for the mishandling of our situation, there will be an investigation so this can't happen again.
And then 18 months later yet another teen with Mental Health issues dies and the whole cycle starts again. Yet another investigation closely followed by the usual rhetoric " its tragic,so sorry for your loss "blah blah blah.
Mean while our daughter will remain dead by her own hand or someone else's and whilst everyone moves on with their lives, we will have to live with the knowledge that our daughter is no more.
Well that may be acceptable to some, but not to us. We will continue to fight because we love our daughter and because this is wrong.
By posting our story here, the hope was to show other parents who are going through a similar situation, what they can expect when they try to engage with the people who are supposed to help when you turn to them for help. Maybe I have been naive in that assumption.
And no there is nothing more to this.
By keeping our daughter in the forefront of the authorities radar, I hope to ensure that she doesn't just disappear with out a trace and end up on poster somewhere. Or the back of a milk carton.
And no,we are not making to big a thing of the fact that our 16 year old is registered on a website designed for adults.
A website designed for the larger lady to meet sexual partners. If our fears were unfounded,the vice dept of the police wouldn't be investigating.
There is the possibility that the father of our daughter's child could be someone she met through this website.
Our daughter's behavior has escalated and escalated and as previously stated, we do not intend to be dragged out on the news after our daughter is found dead in some basement and apologized to for the mishandling of our situation, there will be an investigation so this can't happen again.
And then 18 months later yet another teen with Mental Health issues dies and the whole cycle starts again. Yet another investigation closely followed by the usual rhetoric " its tragic,so sorry for your loss "blah blah blah.
Mean while our daughter will remain dead by her own hand or someone else's and whilst everyone moves on with their lives, we will have to live with the knowledge that our daughter is no more.
Well that may be acceptable to some, but not to us. We will continue to fight because we love our daughter and because this is wrong.
By posting our story here, the hope was to show other parents who are going through a similar situation, what they can expect when they try to engage with the people who are supposed to help when you turn to them for help. Maybe I have been naive in that assumption.
And no there is nothing more to this.
By keeping our daughter in the forefront of the authorities radar, I hope to ensure that she doesn't just disappear with out a trace and end up on poster somewhere. Or the back of a milk carton.
And no,we are not making to big a thing of the fact that our 16 year old is registered on a website designed for adults.
A website designed for the larger lady to meet sexual partners. If our fears were unfounded,the vice dept of the police wouldn't be investigating.
There is the possibility that the father of our daughter's child could be someone she met through this website.
#214
I've read through this and I can only wish you the best in achieving a resolution that is suitable for you - and for your daughter.
Whilst you may be almost single minded in wanting to save your daughter from what you see as the only eventual outcome (death), don't neglect yourself. You'll be no help to your daughter if you ever get to the point of being too tired/single minded to think straight about the best way to help your daughter.
Others have suggested alternatives, I hope you get some peace with regards to your daughter sooner rather than later.
Whilst you may be almost single minded in wanting to save your daughter from what you see as the only eventual outcome (death), don't neglect yourself. You'll be no help to your daughter if you ever get to the point of being too tired/single minded to think straight about the best way to help your daughter.
Others have suggested alternatives, I hope you get some peace with regards to your daughter sooner rather than later.
#215
How are you and you daughter doing ? Have you seen your grandchild yet ?
Hope things are improving .
Hope things are improving .
#216
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I have spoken to her recently (Mum writing this now) and her thoughts are all over the place. She told me that she just wanted someone else to make the decision for her - I told her that that wasn't possible and although I had an opinion, it was ultimately her decision and no one can make the choice for her. Child Services I hope will monitor her closely throughout this - and will be able to catch her if she starts to fall.
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Dear
Dr X and Y have all the authority to make the decisions. Dr Z is sickened hearing this news about. , because he cannot legally do anything to help.
Dr Z left AHE because he resisted the pressure to submit to Dr Y's demands to discharge patients prematurely and was punished. Dr Z is a good doctor, his clinical expertise was recognized by the team and patients families. But despite this, Dr Y initiated a flurry of bullying, blackmail and general tormenting behaviour toward P because he would not submit to Y's poor judgement. Â
The AHE administrators do not need to follow rules or bylaws, they just do what they want, they evaporated Dr Z's hospital privileges and appointments. The corruption in AHE is rampant, and is connected to the cronies of the PC government. They blatantly made his work so unbearable, for his health, he had to leave. To this day we are still fighting with the lawyers at AHS to get his privileges and appointment reinstated so he can work in Alberta or apply for a medical license in another province.Â
If Danielle Smith becomes our next Premier and Dr Z is successful in winning Edmonton-Manning, he will be in a better position to help.
Thank you.
C
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Dr Z
Wildrose Candidate for Edmonton Manning
And the plot thickens.
Dr X and Y have all the authority to make the decisions. Dr Z is sickened hearing this news about. , because he cannot legally do anything to help.
Dr Z left AHE because he resisted the pressure to submit to Dr Y's demands to discharge patients prematurely and was punished. Dr Z is a good doctor, his clinical expertise was recognized by the team and patients families. But despite this, Dr Y initiated a flurry of bullying, blackmail and general tormenting behaviour toward P because he would not submit to Y's poor judgement. Â
The AHE administrators do not need to follow rules or bylaws, they just do what they want, they evaporated Dr Z's hospital privileges and appointments. The corruption in AHE is rampant, and is connected to the cronies of the PC government. They blatantly made his work so unbearable, for his health, he had to leave. To this day we are still fighting with the lawyers at AHS to get his privileges and appointment reinstated so he can work in Alberta or apply for a medical license in another province.Â
If Danielle Smith becomes our next Premier and Dr Z is successful in winning Edmonton-Manning, he will be in a better position to help.
Thank you.
C
for
Dr Z
Wildrose Candidate for Edmonton Manning
And the plot thickens.
Last edited by Pollyana; Apr 8th 2012 at 6:56 am. Reason: Pleas edo not quote third party into in this way - these people may not wish their views to appear here.
#218
What plot? What has this to do with the rest of this interminable but sad thread? Are you losing your senses?
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I believe the OP is referring to the Doctor being forced to discharge patients before, in his opinion, they were ready for release and the potential link to her daughter being released to the detriment of her welfare.
http://m.edmontonsun.com/2012/03/13/...r-wildrose-doc
Whether there is a link or not would depend on whether the daughter was admitted to the forensic unit at the Alberta Hospital Edmunton and whether the doctor concerned was her psychiatrist - neither of which has been stated.
http://m.edmontonsun.com/2012/03/13/...r-wildrose-doc
Whether there is a link or not would depend on whether the daughter was admitted to the forensic unit at the Alberta Hospital Edmunton and whether the doctor concerned was her psychiatrist - neither of which has been stated.
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Siouxie - you are quickly becoming the most invaluable poster on this site. Every time I find myself like Novo, sitting puzzling over a posts relevance and wondering if I have lost the plot, you pop in with an explanation. This is about the third time you've done this for me this week. Thank God for you.
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Thank you very much.... I try to help when I can, I'm just small fry compared to others here though!
#222
Our daughter is only 6 weeks pregnant. Sounds to me when speaking to her that she has now changed her mind and intends to keep the baby. Unfortunately, it also sounds as though her intentions are to try and Marry this man as soon as she turns 18, as she seems to think she will automatically get Citizenship by doing this. I've told her this isn't the case, but she doesn't seem to believe us on anything.
I have spoken to her recently (Mum writing this now) and her thoughts are all over the place. She told me that she just wanted someone else to make the decision for her - I told her that that wasn't possible and although I had an opinion, it was ultimately her decision and no one can make the choice for her. Child Services I hope will monitor her closely throughout this - and will be able to catch her if she starts to fall.
I have spoken to her recently (Mum writing this now) and her thoughts are all over the place. She told me that she just wanted someone else to make the decision for her - I told her that that wasn't possible and although I had an opinion, it was ultimately her decision and no one can make the choice for her. Child Services I hope will monitor her closely throughout this - and will be able to catch her if she starts to fall.
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Siouxie - you are quickly becoming the most invaluable poster on this site. Every time I find myself like Novo, sitting puzzling over a posts relevance and wondering if I have lost the plot, you pop in with an explanation. This is about the third time you've done this for me this week. Thank God for you.
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Oh my goodness! 
I am very grateful for the 'votes of confidence' and thank you very much.
I really am small fry compared to many here, I just like to do research and try to help when I can, other have far superior knowledge and advice.
I do thank you - it's much appreciated.

I am very grateful for the 'votes of confidence' and thank you very much.
I really am small fry compared to many here, I just like to do research and try to help when I can, other have far superior knowledge and advice.
I do thank you - it's much appreciated.



